filmME said:
I swear to god if one more person calls Todd Bertuzzi a goon I am gonna go insane. He is a premier player that made a stupid mistake.

Gravity and the weight of about 10 guys in hockey gear made it into a terrible tragedy.

yeah, i'm fuckin sick of this media frenzy already...
it was a completely stupid move; i hope moore is able to play again; if not, then sue Bertuzzi... blah blah blah... get over it already...

just remember you stole our nordiques! that makes you a bunch of french sack lickers...

Lit_the_Filter

Tacoma, WA

August 2004

DEC 26, 2004 08:01 PM

Truthfatal said:
Injury is a known risk when playing a full contact sport. Bertuzzi shouldn't have had to plea anything.[Edited on Dec 26, 2004 by Truthfatal]

Injury is a known risk, sure, but what Bertuzzi did wasn't part of the sport. I mean, is Tyson biting Holyfield's ear off not fucked up because it happened in the boxing ring?

[Edited on Dec 26, 2004 8:02PM]

Eli

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

DEC 26, 2004 09:05 PM

I totaly agree with FILME! The big guy can throw his weight around for sure, but He is entitled to being a goal scorer for the Canknuckle heads prior. Fists and sticks are 2 very different means of agression. Court matters and the incedent are also. You know what, the guy has a lot of heart I don't think any of this can get him down, by the time their is a match again of NHL caliber and comptetition these guys are going to only remember what's on the front of their jersey's and not the labels on the back, Steve Moore included.

Eli

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

DEC 26, 2004 09:07 PM

VANI77AGORI77A said:
filmME said:

just remember you stole our nordiques! that makes you a bunch of french sack lickers...

What are you talking about?

Truthfatal

Golden, BC

March 2004

DEC 26, 2004 10:19 PM

Lit_the_Filter said:

Truthfatal said:
Injury is a known risk when playing a full contact sport. Bertuzzi shouldn't have had to plea anything.[Edited on Dec 26, 2004 by Truthfatal]

Tyson biting Holyfields ear off was fucked up, and if Bertuzzi had tried to stab Moore with his skate, i'd totally agree with you.

Aya

SUICIDEGIRL

Alberta, Canada

DEC 26, 2004 10:32 PM

filmME said:
Brashear got hit in the head with a stick. Intent is clear, and the resulting injuries are directly from the blow. In this case, Bertuzzi's punch is almost secondary to the barrage of players that fell on top of Steve Moore afterwards (in my opinion after a recent review of the footage). His neck looks like a rubber band, but not untill AFTER people start falling on top of hm.

Arguing details is useless... just dont call Todd a goon because he laces up his skates and plays hard... he made a mistake and the game deserves more respect than that.

If he really did understand he made a mistake, why didn't he push for Moore to be allowed to give his victim impact statement? You talk about cowardice on the ice, but Bertuzzi is shying from responsibility, which I feel is worse than cowardice.

More importantly, the Brashear hit set a precedent in hockey. As I stated before, the game isn't played like it used to be. The respect for a fellow player on the ice back before helmets and million dollar contracts was an unspoken trust - each of these men put their lives in the hands of the other 9 men on the ice.

After the Brashear hit, however, a line had to be drawn.

Now, they're upholding that line - testing the bounds to see how elastic it is. And this hit broke through. Sure, it broke because of what HAPPENED after the hit as much as the hit itself (the injury Moore suffered was as much a catalyst for the charges as the hit), but there has to be an equal refletion.

To say that by playing a hard hitting game automatically assumes career and life-threatening injury is a silly thing to say - they're not roman gladiators or even WWE superstars, they're hockey players who intend to play out their careers, live their lives and not have to deal with serious injury.

troglodyte

Victoria, BC

May 2003

DEC 26, 2004 10:55 PM

Truthfatal said:
Injury is a known risk when playing a full contact sport. Bertuzzi shouldn't have had to plea anything.

Why the hell can't you guys understand the difference between normal rough play and outright assault? Playing hockey doesn't give these guys the right to do anything they like to each other.