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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

DEC 21, 2004 09:43 PM

Mental illness brings with it a host of other health issues: weight gain/loss, emphysema from smoking, muscle loss from a sedentary lifestyle, physical disability from self-inflicted abuse, and malnourishment from poor eating. A new project aims to build healthy lifestyles for those with mental illness in order to educate them on nutrition, exercise, and healthy lifestyle choices.

"It is absolutely groundbreaking," said Dr. Stephen Bartels, a psychiatrist at Dartmouth Medical School. "This is a very important project." […]
Peter, 63, took up water exercise — "a big change from what I used to do, which was sit home all day and cry."

When Pat has an especially grueling psychotherapy session, she likes to go whack racquetballs with Pam. "This has done more for me than any psychotropic drug I have taken, and I have taken a lot," Pat said — so much medication, in fact, that she joked that the pile of pills she took each night was her version of dessert.

Finishing up a 30-minute session on the treadmill, Pat said: "I feel like this has saved my life. I keep telling people that I am this 20-year-old, svelte athlete stuck in this 53-year-old, obese body."


While I don’t doubt that increasing movement has a profound effect on one’s psychological well-being, it’s difficult to incite hope and energy in someone who sees no point in actually going through the motions and moving around. Ask anyone who hated every moment of running around a track for twenty minutes in junior high.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

DEC 22, 2004 09:09 AM

Exercise creates endorphins which have a dramatic positive effect on mental health. This is well documented in peer-reviewed articles in respected journals. One of the most important things that people with mental health problems can do is get more exercise. But, as you mention, getting the motivation to do so can be a problem. So, for people with moderate depression the combination of meds and exercise can help a lot.
Exercise should also help with socialisation; getting out of the house and meeting other people is an important part of it.

alpha_hazard

alpha_hazard

Fort Collins, CO
April 2004

DEC 22, 2004 09:20 AM

"...and happy people just don't kill their husbands"

I think we can all agree that living a healthy lifestyle can make people a lot less crazy...I know my friend Chris was a lot less neurotic when he was a vegan...of course, he kind of lost 40 pounds, which to him...that's a vital organ or two...

Abyssia

Abyssia

Philadelphia, PA
August 2004

DEC 22, 2004 10:26 AM

ok, but what about those of us with chronic major depression? i keep reading studies and even the plain old anecdotal evidence for the efficacy of exercise, but goddamnit! i just can't seem to do it. it's all i can do to get out of bed every day. i'm not kidding. and no, pills don't work. shock treatment (ect) does, but that's kind of a pain. so, anyone have any ideas here??? i'm out.

impboy

impboy

Los Angeles, CA
September 2003

DEC 22, 2004 10:55 AM

i definitely feel your garden-variety depression is definitely quelled by some sort of exercise. hell, i know that from my own life experience once i took up yoga. chronic depression of the sort abyssia (apt username, i have to admit here) is a harder nut to crack. i used to work in a mental ward, and indeed, it's hard for these people to even muster up the energy to get out of bed. the only thing the doctors could really do was throw a lot of meds at them and see what stuck.

i also know pets are very good for the mentally ill. they seem to provide a very calming and stabilizing influence which mentally ill people desperately need.

thurber

thurber

I'm lost
July 2003

DEC 22, 2004 11:43 AM

Working out at Bally's isn't going to cure a psychiatric disorder. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

I suppose if you've had a series of bad days in a row, it may help.

I'm not a big fan of stories like these because they seem to trivialize the difficulty in treating mental problems.

darling69

darling69

La Mesa, CA
October 2004

DEC 22, 2004 12:20 PM

whatever been there done that something different for everyone took me 6-7 years to get the right meds and a cocktail of them along w/ lithium finally something they call life but i think its different for different people. I hope Abyssia gets it all worked out i been there and have a huge history of self mutilation so good luck for her (she is a classic one isnt she) After all that throw in a little walking and fresh air crisp cold air. I say keep out of the mental hospitals all together they do nothing for us popping u pills and thats it along with some lame ass intern therapy nothing against interns but wrong place to put them patients need real care and attention.I could go on but wont ; we all have are own ideas as to what works... darling69 biggrin

cklarock

cklarock

Lawrence, KS
August 2004

DEC 22, 2004 12:41 PM

thurber said:
Working out at Bally's isn't going to cure a psychiatric disorder. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.



I don't think that is the point. I think the point is that a holistic approach to overall health and well-being can help mitigate symptoms or at least mitigate secondary negative effects that arise from the disorder.

reacher

reacher

USA
March 2004

DEC 22, 2004 01:28 PM

Certain people react better to certain types of exercise. If you feel it isn't helping your mental state, you might try experimenting with different things.

For me, cardio does practically nothing for my mood. I've never felt a so called "runner's high" despite having done insane amounts of cardio at different times in my life, including running 10k's on a regular basis. I have found heavy resistance training is what works for me, likely because of the testosterone spike (upwards of a 400% increase) the male body experiences after a session of lifting really heavy weights. It's the best anti-depressant in the world for me, and I've tried them all.

Hati

Hati

Los Angeles, CA
December 2003

DEC 22, 2004 01:40 PM

When I started getting really crazy, I used excercise as a form of abuse. When I started getting medicated and had a find a way to deal with the jitters, I had to excercise to calm down. Now, years later, if I don't exercise, I get incredibly anxious. It is my only addiction, I guess.

I have trouble imagining a person with serious chronic problems going through a regular, healthy workout routine. But, if doctors can get them to do it, then I think that is awesome. Soon, even the crazy people will be fit and only the lazy people will be out of shape~

bcguitar33

bcguitar33

Jamaica Plain, MA
January 2004

DEC 22, 2004 02:22 PM

thurber said:
Working out at Bally's isn't going to cure a psychiatric disorder. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

I suppose if you've had a series of bad days in a row, it may help.

I'm not a big fan of stories like these because they seem to trivialize the difficulty in treating mental problems.



Exercising won't cure psychiatric disorders, because most of them are technically incurable. But it sure as hell can treat them. Aerobic exercise has been in my experience the ONLY reliable thing to snap me out of an acute, self-destructive depressive episode. To dismiss the positive emotional effects of exercise is to trivialize what can be the key (as it has been, in my case) to living with mental illness.

The_Incubator

The_Incubator

I'm lost
October 2004

DEC 22, 2004 10:49 PM

bcguitar33 said:

thurber said:
Working out at Bally's isn't going to cure a psychiatric disorder. Nope. Ain't gonna happen.

I suppose if you've had a series of bad days in a row, it may help.

I'm not a big fan of stories like these because they seem to trivialize the difficulty in treating mental problems.



Exercising won't cure psychiatric disorders, because most of them are technically incurable. But it sure as hell can treat them. Aerobic exercise has been in my experience the ONLY reliable thing to snap me out of an acute, self-destructive depressive episode. To dismiss the positive emotional effects of exercise is to trivialize what can be the key (as it has been, in my case) to living with mental illness.



The major point that medicine dances around is that being healthy leads to better health, and being unhealthy leads to poor health. That sounds really stupid, but look around you, nobody understands this.

All the therapy and drugs in the world aren't going to do much if a person is malnourished and physically weak... And that's 99.9% of the population these days. It amazes me the extent to which modern medicine will bring crazy drugs, invasive surguries, etc. to bear without ever considering a person's basic physical health. Well, unfortunately, being healthy requires some effort and consistency, which means it is effectively impossible for the average person. I've seen this time and again, with my own family and friends. Give people the choice between cutting something off or taking a pill for instant relief, and spending time, effort, maybe a little pain to ACTUALLY SOLVE THE PROBLEM, and they want pills and knives.

Nick

[Edited on Dec 22, 2004 by The_Incubator]

cklarock

cklarock

Lawrence, KS
August 2004

DEC 22, 2004 11:15 PM

The_Incubator said:It amazes me the extent to which modern medicine will bring crazy drugs, invasive surguries, etc. to bear without ever considering a person's basic physical health.



Thank you. (Gives a witness)

Testm0nkey

Testm0nkey

I'm lost
March 2004

DEC 23, 2004 01:08 AM

Hati said:
When I started getting really crazy, I used excercise as a form of abuse. When I started getting medicated and had a find a way to deal with the jitters, I had to excercise to calm down. Now, years later, if I don't exercise, I get incredibly anxious. It is my only addiction, I guess.

I have trouble imagining a person with serious chronic problems going through a regular, healthy workout routine. But, if doctors can get them to do it, then I think that is awesome. Soon, even the crazy people will be fit and only the lazy people will be out of shape~


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