Daniel Robert Epstein: Jarboe

From : Nic Le Ban
Sent : Friday, December 31, 2004 3:17 PM
To : danielrobertepstein@REMOVEhotmail.com
CC : heart@????
Subject : Spelling MISTAKE in Jarboe interview on Suicide Girls




At the begining of your interview, across from the link to Don
Cheadle, you ask Jarboe the following question:

DRE: "According to your website people can KNOW read your
journal on their Palm Pilots."

That of course, should read NOW and not "know". Just thought
I would help you out since you edited the portion of Jarboes
answer relating to me when she was speaking of current collaborators,
which of course, makes me look like a schmuck to everyone.

And yet if you go out to Jarboes site you find out the opposite!
Gee thanks Daniel! And have a great New Year asshole!!

Nic Le Ban
www.nslb.org

From: Nic Le Ban <???@nslb.org>
To: Daniel Robert Epstein <danielrobertepstein@REMOVEhotmail.com>

Subject: "Daniel Robert Epstein": Stop Emailing me Please

For the person using the name "Daniel Robert Epstein":

Oh please! I dont want an interview from you Daniel! That would
be hilarious ... an ignorant ingrate interviewing a man with an IQ
more than 3 times his own. Why the hell would I want to consent
to something so assinine and pathetic? Thats really funny ... !!

I tried to be nice to you Daniel. Apparently you are some kind of
incredible weirdo. Unlike you I have a life! While you were stewing
over these dumb emails I was on a plane out to Seattle to see
Jarboe perform yet another excellent show. I dont know where you
get off treating me with such obvious disrespect. I think you are
an obvious moron and a loser. I dont give a damn about your
opinions! I am a guitarist you pathetic idiot! I didnt learn to play
guitar the way I do to be "real" to stupid pathetic morons like you!
In fact, I seriously want you to hate the fuck out of me, because
I was aceptible to some schmuck like you it would embarass me.

You need to understand that I could care less for your stupid views,
your pathetic, frail and plastic ego, or your sophomoric attempts at
writing. I think you are a serious NUT! Why do you keep emailing
me!? What do you fucking want from me pal? I could give a
rats ass about someone like you! hahaaaa ... dont you get it?

I DO NOT LIKE YOU DANIEL! YOU ARE A PEST! GO AWAY!

Did you think I was going to kiss your ass or something? Who
the fuck do you think you are pal? I played guitar with Layne
Staley of Alice in Chains, and he was a good friend of mine.
If he had not died unexpectedly, you would be licking the shit
and the slime off of the bottom my shoes for an interview with
him, as well as with me. Why dont you go blow your head off!

I am Jarboes guitarist. I am also her fiance. I am also the man
who helped save her entire life from disappearing into an oblivion
of hopelessness and depression. You are a real piece of work to
come off so damn condescending to me. And if anything, its
disrespectful to Jarboe. You have no class. You are gutter slime.

So I want you to remember the following explicitly:

1. YOU DO NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO POST MY EMAIL
2. YOU DO NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO INTERVIEW ME
3. YOU DO NOT HAVE MY PERMISSION TO WRITE ON ME
4. YOU ARE BEING TOLD EXPLICITLY TO CEASE AND DESIST
5. DO NOT COMMENT ABOUT ME PERSONALLY OR PRIVATELY

**AND PLEASE REMEMBER THE FOLLOWING FOR ETERNITY:**

* YOU ARE NOT A JOURNALIST
* JOURNALISTS ARE PROFESSIONAL
* YOU CANT SPELL
* YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO USE ENGLISH GRAMMAR

I think you are pathetic. Unlike you, I have an excellent education
and CAN write exceptionally well. I am also polite unless provoked.
You provoked me by the way you deliberately worded your interview
to make me look bad as Jarboe's current creative and musical
collaborator. This is also insulting to the band Neurosis as well. If
you cant see that you are a pathetic fucking jackass.

I called you an asshole, and you know what I was being fascetious
at the time. You then emailed me back with countless eptithets and
disgusting taunts. I made you look like a moron by not taking you
seriously.

And despite the fact that I was kidding when I initially called you an
asshole, because I call everyone an asshole. But you know what
"Daniel"? Now I REALLY DO MEAN THIS:

** YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE DANIEL.
** STOP EMAILING ME.
** GET COUNSELING.

IF you ever speak, write, or post anything with my name again I will
sue the living fuck out of you. Get a clue you pathetic fucking
ingrate: I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR FRAIL EGO!!!

NOW FUCK OFF!!

COMMUNICATION TERMINATED.

hypogirl said:

Well Jason, maybe when she was allegedly quoted as saying that her collaborators "dont get it" she was refering to you personally instead!

:^)

The question as posted in the article was - in fact - not the one that was asked of her. She was asked the following (paraphrase)

"You have collaborated with a lot of people ... (Jarboe - Yeah) ... and so what was that process like?" And the response was the generic one you see. But in the interim, the question was changed to state "Have you been able to find that same energy with the people you collaborate with now?"

Now you tell me - is that not deliberately insulting? That is most definitely subtle, and spiteful. And not just to Nic Le Ban. This whole episode smacks of nothing but pettiness and pathetic jelousy. Please grow! Nic has played guitar all of his life. He may be largely a mystery, but he is not new or nieve by any stretch of the imagination. Get a clue already.

Oh and btw: "Daniel Robert Epstien" does not even answer these emails apparently! The responses you get from that alias are from thier staff, apparently some shithead idiot with no sense of class or tact, and lacking a life obviously.

Nic Le Ban and Jarboe are on the same page and they both agree that the interview published on this website is misleading and have asked Sucide Girls to remove the interview entirely.

And Jason, some good advice for you at this time is to not mention Nic Le Bans name ever again. He does not know you, does not remember meeting you, and you are not his friend.

hypogirl said:

Oh yes, and btw, there was a lot more than just "one forgettable" spelling error in the original as posted online! There were many spelling and gramatical errors. It looked incredibly poorly written actually. Honestly, do you think Nic Le Ban would care if it were not so obnoxious? Get a life.

hypogirl said:

Well Jason, maybe when she was allegedly quoted as saying that her collaborators "dont get it" she was refering to you personally instead!

:^)

The question as posted in the article was - in fact - not the one that was asked of her. She was asked the following (paraphrase)

"You have collaborated with a lot of people ... (Jarboe - Yeah) ... and so what was that process like?" And the response was the generic one you see. But in the interim, the question was changed to state "Have you been able to find that same energy with the people you collaborate with now?"

Now you tell me - is that not deliberately insulting? That is most definitely subtle, and spiteful. And not just to Nic Le Ban. This whole episode smacks of nothing but pettiness and pathetic jelousy. Please grow! Nic has played guitar all of his life. He may be largely a mystery, but he is not new or nieve by any stretch of the imagination. Get a clue already.

Oh and btw: "Daniel Robert Epstien" does not even answer these emails apparently! The responses you get from that alias are from thier staff, apparently some shithead idiot with no sense of class or tact, and lacking a life obviously.

Nic Le Ban and Jarboe are on the same page and they both agree that the interview published on this website is misleading and have asked Sucide Girls to remove the interview entirely.

And Jason, some good advice for you at this time is to not mention Nic Le Bans name ever again. He does not know you, does not remember meeting you, and you are not his friend.

hypogirl said:

Yes this is somewhat ridiculous and bizarre. JARBOE is a world class artist and does not deserve to be treated in this way. She is not a liar nor has she ever been one. She has asked the publisher of this website to take this interview offline. The answers she provided to the questions asked of her have been presented in a very misleading way which is obviously not only insulting but also completely inapropriate. That is what is going on at this time.

Whether or not the comment as posted is insulting to any of her other collaborators at this time is irrelevant. It is insulting to Jarboe to have her answers portrayed in a manner which is misleading to her. That is the problem.

Jarboe mentioned Nic Le Ban because he has re-inspired her and because she is excited to be working with the man. She also mentioned Richard Kern, as well as many others relevant to the conversation who were also not mentioned in the article. Regardless if you are a fan of Jarboe and follow her life via her website, you will know Nic's name well by now. He has been a resounding positive influence within her life and has helped her refocus on her magic as an artist after suffering through literally years of abuse. She has mentioned him by name often in her ARTERY online. Dissing this man in this web forum is a slap in the face to her. And whoever you are, you have a lot of nerve to insult someone like her.

For the record: JARBOE has enjoyed playing and collaborating not only with Neurosis but also with ALL of those whom she has collaborated with - both recently and in past projects - including her guitarist Nic Le Ban. She still speaks glowingly of the recent shows in Europe from the fall of 2004 which she performed with Kris Force of Amber Asylum and Nic Le Ban. She had overwhelmingly positive experiences playing there. She also happens to be a very close friend of Kris Force's and is considered a member of Neurosis now by the band.

So who exactly are you, whoever you are, to mention anything regarding your take on JARBOE's collaborators? Isnt that somewhat pathetic of you? And yes it is obviously insulting. Jarboe would never say anything negative about those whom she works with and anyone who knows Jarboe would agree with what I am saying.

Jarboe has personally asked that the interview be taken offline because it is misleading. There is no discussion going on. Her trust has been manipulated and she has been taken advantage of. ALL of us find that to be incredibly insulting, not just Nic Le Ban.

Please get a life: your petty insults demonstrate an incredible lack of maturity on your part. You are obviously some petty individual with no life. Nic Le Ban is a nice guy. If you can't handle his sarcasm then get over yourself, for I can assure you that he does not have time for you.

hypogirl said:

It is obvious to all of us - fans and staff of Jarboe - that all of this negative commentary is quite literally incredibly crass and rude, if not an already banal attempt at creating false controvery. If there is any further follow up it will not happen via this web exchange. Please be advised of that.

Sincerely:

Friends, fans, and Jarboe staff.