The city of Los Angeles has acquired a court order that evicts an entire apartment complex because its a long history of gang activity. The complex in South L.A. is a known base for the 69 East Coast Crips and also sits opposite a middle school.
The order closes a 24-unit complex across from Bethune Middle School that authorities say was used as a base for more than 20 years by the 69 East Coast Crips. At times, Delgadillo said, children at Bethune have been taken out of classrooms and herded into the cafeteria until police can secure the campus perimeter.
Since June 2002, police have documented 18 drug arrests and 13 drive-by shootings in the area, that left nine people -- including two children -- wounded.
Seventeen loaded firearms have been recovered from the apartments, and gang members have been regularly arrested for such crimes as assault with a deadly weapon, murder and robberies, officials said.
Students were robbed so frequently as they walked by the apartments that they were told not to do so, according to deputy city attorneys Jonathan Cristall and Anne Tremblay. [ ]
Delgadillo said "we are taking back the rights of students and teachers to go safely to and from school and ridding this neighborhood of a magnet for gang activity.
No neighborhood, no gang activityso much for innocent residents.
Of course, it is unknown where the residents whom have no social or familial network will go this close to Christmas.
I don't feel for the "non criminal" residents so much in this instance. They claim to not be involved, but why the hell else would they stay in an apartment complex that had been subject to 13 drive bys in a little over two years? that's just about one drive by every two months. To assume they couldn't find a better place is bullshit. Besides, if they were really worried about their kids (re: article), then what kind of parents are they to allow them to live in such a bad place?
Coming from the UK, i am lucky enough to not really see any of this gang stuff so i have no idea what it would be like to live in such an area.
I guess it sort of makes snese though. The only thing is, when they are all thrown out, where they gonna go? Won't they just find another place to infest?
thelastbeliever said:
Coming from the UK, i am lucky enough to not really see any of this gang stuff so i have no idea what it would be like to live in such an area.
I guess it sort of makes snese though. The only thing is, when they are all thrown out, where they gonna go? Won't they just find another place to infest?
Yes - why don't they just send more policemen there to keep constant surveillance on things, arrest them when they fuck up and draw it out bit by bit while they know where the problem is. I guess I just don't see why that hasn't worked.
TexaSGuy said:
I don't feel for the "non criminal" residents so much in this instance. They claim to not be involved, but why the hell else would they stay in an apartment complex that had been subject to 13 drive bys in a little over two years? that's just about one drive by every two months. To assume they couldn't find a better place is bullshit. Besides, if they were really worried about their kids (re: article), then what kind of parents are they to allow them to live in such a bad place?
one could also assume that they couldn't afford to leave
TexaSGuy said:
I don't feel for the "non criminal" residents so much in this instance. They claim to not be involved, but why the hell else would they stay in an apartment complex that had been subject to 13 drive bys in a little over two years? that's just about one drive by every two months. To assume they couldn't find a better place is bullshit. Besides, if they were really worried about their kids (re: article), then what kind of parents are they to allow them to live in such a bad place?
one could also assume that they couldn't afford to leave
Or that they are too old to leave.
Or that they are married to criminal residents.
Or that they are the children of criminal residents.
Or that they have lived there all their lives and don't want the criminal elements to scare them away.
TexaSGuy said:
I don't feel for the "non criminal" residents so much in this instance. They claim to not be involved, but why the hell else would they stay in an apartment complex that had been subject to 13 drive bys in a little over two years? that's just about one drive by every two months. To assume they couldn't find a better place is bullshit. Besides, if they were really worried about their kids (re: article), then what kind of parents are they to allow them to live in such a bad place?
I would think it would be parents trying their hardest to somehow and in someway to get their children outta harm's way. Having grown up in a urban warzone,Let me tell you that it's not as easy as you think to just up and move. We managed to move from my old neighborhood and are now teaching all of our children not to think that the lawns and shit they see now weren't earned offa the sweat and tears of ALL of our family. Economic racism is still a big reality in trying to get out..........
TexaSGuy said:
Besides, if they were really worried about their kids (re: article), then what kind of parents are they to allow them to live in such a bad place?
While we're at it, why don't gang members just stop being in gangs?! Because that's exactly how things work in Easier-Said-Than-Done Land.
thelastbeliever said:
Coming from the UK, i am lucky enough to not really see any of this gang stuff so i have no idea what it would be like to live in such an area.
I guess it sort of makes snese though. The only thing is, when they are all thrown out, where they gonna go? Won't they just find another place to infest?
Yes - why don't they just send more policemen there to keep constant surveillance on things, arrest them when they fuck up and draw it out bit by bit while they know where the problem is. I guess I just don't see why that hasn't worked.
I agree completely... you know the source of the problem, quanteen it... dispersing it just sends all the problems elsewhere
Apparently, the police's hands are tied most of the time when it comes to the really, really serious criminal activity in America. From race-related legal issues if the cop is white and the gangster is black, to our revolving door prisons, to the fact that many or all of the gang members could be underagged, and therefore not able to be tried as an adult, to the fact that anyone they arrest had damn well BETTER be PROVEN guilty of something or they'll just turn around and sue the cops, there are plenty of reasons why the police can't just grab their tear gas and riot shields and go "Okay, you guys are all part of an evil gang! You're going behind bars for the rest of your lives!" It just doesn't work that way.
Not yet, at least. Shrub is working on it. I guess we'll see if life gets better or worse once we eliminate all of those pesky civil liberties.
Erin said:
Yes - why don't they just send more policemen there to keep constant surveillance on things, arrest them when they fuck up and draw it out bit by bit while they know where the problem is. I guess I just don't see why that hasn't worked.
Because that would require more officers. More officers require more tax dollars to pay their salaries, but additional equipment, etc. No one wants to pay more taxes, so...
Christopher
Portland, OR
November 2002
DEC 14, 2004 07:19 PM