NEWS: Makers of "Matrix" and "Terminator" sued for copyright infringment, and lost!

Hmm.. and tell me that every mythological battle in every culture in every society on this planet isnt a race war of some sort. 'Chosen people vs. Heathens' , Gods vs Titans, etc etc. Besides, he didnt just draw on only Scandinavian sources. There are all sorts of different mythologies woven into his books. Besides which, if you study world religions , mythology and ancient civilisations enough, you notice that they all borrow from each other (or to be more exact, all the cultures that had any sort of contact with each other) .
And again I say.. unless you can achieve the same kind of literary feat as Tolkien, I suggest you refrain from criticism.

So all criticism is invalid? Just because the critic hasn't achieved the same "literary feat"? So, if someone were to say that LOTR is the greatest literary achievement of the 20th Century, his opinion should be invalid as well, since he hasn't accomplished the same "literary feat"...Positive criticism is still criticism.

The fact is, Tolkien stole/was influenced by a lot of Wagner's Ring Cycle. This isn't a dis on Tolkien(personally, i think they're pretty good books), but to say that they are the most important literary achievement of the past 100 years is wayyy overblown and silly.

From Neil Gaiman's blog:

Gaimain also wrote a spot of his own fiction in the Matrix universe.

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whoa. no.

I liked the first matrix movie(as did most people at the time). Honestly I thought that second movie was pretty good too. It obviously didn't hold up to the ridicously high expectations that people had placed on it, but it was a well conceived movie nonetheless. It didn't have the same sense of urgency or peril that the first matrix had, but urgency is in general a hard feat to accomplish during the middle section of a movie triliogy. It had plot development, as much character development as you could get with Keanu Reeves and Carrie Anne Moss in the lead roles, and had some very cool fight scenes and dialogue.

The third matrix movie...I liked the first ten minutes or so. It was at that point the whole movie series just seemed to unravel. It was as if they tried to condense another three movies worth of material into one movie. Everything except for graphics suffered(what happened to the character arc of Morpheus I'd like to know).

The series wasn't as bad as some people want to make it to be. And some(but most assuredly not all) do this because of the kind of let down it was.

I don't see that it was horrible, but at the same not time, anyone who says it's one of the seminal films of our generations needs to see some of the films of our generation first.

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I think we all need to re-examine this...I think the article is a glich in the matrix. Designed to draw our attention away from the machines (aol-timewarner). A well crafted ruse, if you will. To make us argue about the rehashing of sci-fi/ fantasy works into movies. While they continue to take over our lives one forecasted vote at a time.

I think some of the better works of fiction are those that follow the guide lines created by these writers, like more works written in the conceptual worlds. Christopher Tolkein=Badass. Animatrix=Badass( although 4 of the 9 stories on ani matrix have writers credits going to the wachowski bros.)

Dont get me wrong, the LOTR movies are great, but if I had to see Sean Astin cry one more fucking time I was gonna puke.

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OK, you know how Elrond in LOTR was played by Hugo Weaving, who also starred as Agent Smith in the Matrix movies?

Well, when I saw The Fellowship of the Ring and they were having that council meeting to talk about what to do with the ring, and I realized he was Agent Smith, I said out loud "What good is a ring, Mr. Baggins. if you have no fingers..."

That was one of those "you had to be there moments"...we were all cracking up...

I can't believe SNL never picked up on that.

so can we see the extra 30 mins now?

Props to this woman.. it is not an easy feat to make a neanu film so fucking popular... I think I may have enjoyed those movies more had he not starred in them... and the eyebrow guy...you know...that guy... "Was it for LOVE MR. Andersdon??!!!"


fucking crazy ass eyebrows.... they ruined it.

James Cameron's wedding was accessible only by helicopter. I'm sure whoever sues him won't dent his bank account or his shitty films. Hollyood goes on.

Shitty films like the Abyss?!

No, shitty films like Terminator.

Except, The Matrix stole from about a dozen other movies as well. So does just about any good modern sci-fi movie.

Posts like these are the reason why I love Lain and his complete lack of common sense.

Man! the Abyss rules ass