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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

NOV 28, 2004 06:59 PM

The New York Times has examined the work of Wes Anderson and other "peculiar […] American auteurs" like Alexander Payne and David O. Russell. Anderson is particularly aware of how his niche audience might be alienated by his next round of "mainstream" films. That is, he ponders if a director of notoriety automatically brings with it the air of "selling out."

"The only thing I worry about is that I'm going to have my same exact audience that I've had, which I'm lucky to have in the first place," he said, while dissecting a plate of branzino at the same table at Bar Pitti restaurant in New York where he and Mr. Baumbach invented their cranky underwater patriarch, [Steve Zissou]. […]



Whether lunatic or genius, Mr. Anderson has won an intense fan base, which helped boost domestic ticket sales for "Tenenbaums" (2001), about a family of fractured geniuses, to $52 million, his best showing to date. "But we spent a lot more money on this movie, and it needs to be broader," Mr. Anderson said of "The Life Aquatic," while worrying that his bizarre undersea saga will play best with the people who already know his work. "Whatever cult audience that you're talking about," he said, "I probably feel like if I've made the movie for them. And I'm probably not allowed to do that."



While other "artier" directors like Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi, Alfonso Cuarón, and Peter Jackson are now hitching onto the larger projects, Anderson wants to bring larger audiences into his own world instead of bringing himself into the mainstream.

Mr. Anderson, by contrast, said he had "hemmed and hawed" and then passed, when asked to undertake big-budget studio projects. "I work the exact same way that I worked on 'Bottle Rocket,' " he said, referring to his inexpensive 1996 debut, a slacker crime escapade set in his native Texas. That picture attracted the attention of the former Disney production head Joe Roth and secured Mr. Anderson the rare privilege of having final cut on his second movie, "Rushmore," about an eccentric student-teacher-parent love triangle. But even Mr. Anderson wonders if his small-picture style will translate well in "The Life Aquatic," which is, after all, a much bigger, oceangoing enterprise. "In big six-camera shots, you're supposed to have six cameras going," he said. "And I don't know what to do with the other five."



There's a saying I've read and seen on TV when I think of people selling out because studios worry that complex artists won't attract large audiences: if Mohammad won't go to the mountain, the mountain must come to Mohammad. This is the case with Jackson, Raimi, and Cuarón (and hopefully with Nolan). Each of these directors have been able to work within the studio system because each of these directors are taking active roles in their mainstream films.



Of course, mixing street credibility with corporate power tends is the very definition of "selling out" and Anderson, Nolan, Raimi, et al. are not immune to this phenomena. One only needs to look at Spielberg, Lucas, Coppola, and Carpenter for examples of the slow degradation of artistic credibility within the mainstream studio system. In fact, these directors have become studios unto themselves.



Wes Anderson's next project is an animated feature called, Fantastic Mr.Fox.

AceTracer

AceTracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

NOV 28, 2004 09:05 PM

Compared to what? He's written/directed three movies that have been released, all of them have had the same style.

phineas

phineas

Bozeman, MT
August 2003

NOV 28, 2004 09:24 PM

wes just needs to work with some new subject matter and he'll be fine.

sidewalker123

sidewalker123

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2004

NOV 28, 2004 09:36 PM

Whatever; I really liked all three of his films. And although I don't know enough about directing or cinematography to pretend as though I know anything at all, this line alarmed me:
"In big six-camera shots, you're supposed to have six cameras going," he said. "And I don't know what to do with the other five."

It made me realize that the simple camera shots and clever editing were a very cool part of those movies. So I hope that doesn't go away. Mostly though, I liked the stories. An undersea adventure seems a lot different than his previous stories.

AceTracer

AceTracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

NOV 28, 2004 09:42 PM

I should mention Wes is one of my all time fav directors, if anyone thought I was criticizing him.

Graven

Graven

Reading, MN
March 2003

NOV 28, 2004 10:01 PM

What a fucking sellout. wink

nerdboy2345

nerdboy2345

Oak Lawn, IL
December 2002

NOV 28, 2004 10:05 PM

sell out all the fuck you want. regardless of whats to come, ill still enjoy the previous three movies all the same.

Sean

Sean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

NOV 28, 2004 10:55 PM

I really don't love any other movies the way I love Wes Anderson movies, and I can't figure out what it is I like so much about them. I'm confident he'll continue to do good work.

thehedgehog

thehedgehog

Ann Arbor, MI
April 2004

NOV 29, 2004 01:45 AM

i think to me, being a '76 baby, a lot of the stylized 70s tone (mood, setting, fashion) is really nostalgic, and most of his characters are really overgrown kids. particularly the dialog is so endearing because it's simple, fresh and innocent: completely meant, just as a child would deliver it.

from what wes has briefly commented on about his father and some of his family life off the rushmore and bottle rocket dvd, i can kind of get why i like the films. in tennenbaums to name one piece, it's the family you always wished you had. it's about belonging, which is i guess reassuring in a society that routinely rejects familiarity.

the overwhelming thing that i always feel in an anderson film though is complete safety and warmth. even when the characters are at their lowest point, you always kind of know they're going to turn out all right. they're good kids all around.

anyway as long as he keeps the mood consistent and isn't doing shit with ben affleck running away from special buildings that explode when you run away from them, i can't see how he could totally screw it up for any of the fans.

JohnnyForeigner

JohnnyForeigner

United Kingdom
July 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:10 AM

The book Fanstastic Mr. Fox is absolutely ace, one of my favourite books from when I was a kid. I reckon it would be hard to fuck up an animated film of it.

PoopooHead

PoopooHead

Brooklyn, NY
September 2003

NOV 29, 2004 04:43 AM


While other "artier" directors like Christopher Nolan, Sam Raimi, Alfonso Cuarón, and Peter Jackson are now hitching onto the larger projects



Raimi and Jackson are "artier": directors?????? Sorry, but these guys were born sold out. Have you seen the early movies they made??? Nothing arty about them.

The article puts this more accurately:


Mr. Raimi's followers had come to expect raw horror in his films like "Evil Dead," but he successfully swept them and millions of others into theaters for Columbia's "Spider-Man" franchise. Mr. Jackson, who cut his teeth on splatter movies like "Braindead," went on to tackle "The Lord of the Rings."



Raimi knows a money machine when he sees one. It is no surprise at all that he would go big budget the minute he got the chance. Same with Jackson.

I never understood what people liked about Anderson. I don't really get him and don't think he's all that great. But I agree with this to a degree:


Some longtime admirers say they wish that Mr. Anderson would follow Mr. Raimi and others in applying his gifts to a broad, "Spider-Man"-like entertainment. "I would find it refreshing if Wes Anderson turned his talents - his obsessive attention to detail and his very individual sense of humor - to a project that aspired to affect a mass audience," said David Granger, the editor in chief of Esquire magazine, in an e-mail message.



I have thought the same about M. Night Shyamalan. Clearly a good craftsman, I would like to see him tackle something completely different, just a work for hire, to see where he can go when he applies his skill alone.


[Edited on Nov 29, 2004 by desperatecomfort]

lowenb

lowenb

Bluefield, WV
June 2004

NOV 29, 2004 05:10 AM

i like wes, i hope his movie does well, b/c i'd like to see what he can do with his style and some extra bucks.

TedKoppel

TedKoppel

Glendale, AZ
March 2004

NOV 29, 2004 05:22 AM

BrokenGavelBlues said:
But if you'd rather be optimistic, like me, you might say it shows how a filmmaker with a truly independent vision can, through integrity and a willingness to engage the system rather than just flail against it, can manage to push something original and personal through the hollywood machine with the help of that hegemony, not just despite it.


Nah. Tons of people do that shit when they're young. Coppola did. You know what his last two movies were? The Rainmaker and Jack. Eventually you have a movie that flops and then you're Hollywood's bitch.

And Fincher was a huge music video director whose first major feature was Alien 3. I don't think anyone thought he was independent. Besides, these current "cool" directors are just going to be the ones that the next generation talks crap about. And the ones like Spielberg who are being written off by today's younger generation will be rediscovered for being more talented than people gave them credit for. It's the way of the world.

Beastie_Boy

Beastie_Boy

Van Nuys, CA
January 2003

NOV 29, 2004 08:29 PM

It's pointless to try and tag a filmmaker with the "sell out" label like you would a musician.

As has been pointed out, all of Wes Anderson's films have been paid for by coporate studios.

Bottle Rocket was rmade by Columbia, which is owned by Sony.

Rushmore, Tenenbaums, and Life Aquatic are all Touchstone films, which is a branch of Disney.

When I was in film school, "El Mariachi," was touted as the cheapest independent film ever made. Robert Rodriguez even went so far as to subject himself to medical experiments to scrounge up the cash to make the movie. But then, it gets picked up by Miramax (also a Disney subidiary) and they pump millions of dollars into cleaning up the negative, remixing the sound, and promoting the film as the "cheapest" independent film ever made.

Now as to who is the true visionary independent filmmaker working in Hollywood today, I can think of only one person that funds his films completely out of his own pocket, takes no notes from a studio, has final cut on his film, and basically sells the distribution rights to his movie to a studio, with no creative involvement from them whatsoever: George Lucas.

[Edited on Nov 29, 2004 by Beastie_Boy]

surface

surface

Vancouver, BC
October 2002

NOV 29, 2004 09:06 PM

Sean said:
I really don't love any other movies the way I love Wes Anderson movies, and I can't figure out what it is I like so much about them. I'm confident he'll continue to do good work.


i know what you mean. for me, i think it's the quaintness, the everydayness, and the exploration of the strangeness within what we think is mundane that i love so much about his films. i really hope this is not lost in his work.

Scopitone

Scopitone

Irvine, CA
OLD SKOOL

NOV 29, 2004 09:17 PM

A trusted friend of mine recommended I watch Bottle Rocket on laserdisc and the son of a bitch got me hooked on Wes Anderson ever since. My favorite thing Wes ever did was make more people aware of how flawless Bill Murray is.

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

NOV 29, 2004 09:36 PM

All of Wes' work includes a central theme of a man/boy (usually a combination of both) who both has an amazing amount of talent but is somehow lacking, missing something. Not living up to the God given skills and abilities he has. I think a lot of people can relate to that (or think they relate to it). The movies are ultimately about redemption, which is why I personally love them so.