grow up!

Something I believe firmly, and will not waver on Is that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR LIFE! If it sucks, then you're the only one who can change it. It's your life. Not mine, not her's, not his. YOURS. Whatever your issue is. Deal with it. Don't rely on other people. People suck. they will never be there for you. because face it, you're not important to their lives. Why? you're not them. we are human. humans are selfish. We each live in our own universes that have us in the very center! Don't expect someone to modify their universe to circle around you. You're responsible for your own shit. it stinks. I don't want to deal with it. you deal with it. ITS YOURS! Grow some fucking balls, grow up, create yourself (it's within your ablity) and take responsiblity like an adult.

If anyone needs anything from me to help change their life just ask. I'll do the best I can. All I have to offer anyone is honest compassion. Life is hard. It's not always easy to pull yourself up from the boot straps.

no, it's not. I'll be the first to say it. When people do it, I give them props and appluse and hugs. And encouragement. LOTS of it. IT's hard to get out of a hole.

My issue is with those who are expecting someone else to do it FOR them. People are willing to help, (example: Mr. ZimSkool above) but you gotta make the effort first and then continue to. If you're gonna sit and complain then no one's gonna help you. Because you're not doing anything! Don't be a mooch. Sucessful people aren't successful because they're riding on someone's coattails.
(success doesn't equate to money)

I get your point, and agree.

Did something happen to bring this on, or are you just writing to make a point?

and I don't like the way that line sounds. The problem with communicating over the Internet. Emoticons will only go so far.

Maybe you could just start a thread on a porn site to BITCH and command people to do things. That, um...is pretty much my philosophy on life.

But, I am immature as fuck. I climb trees and laugh like a retard at Beavis & Butthead and waste all my money on weed.

i present to you: Autonomy


its right up youre alley

There are two specific members of sg that I interact with who are chronic poor me types. Which is fine, if it works, but they see the entire world as against them.
All they do is complain about it. One of them I know personally, he's not a dumb guy. his iq is insane, he belongs to mensa, he got accepted at harvard and cambridge (the elite university in england) and is running food at some resort down here in florida. This guy understands quantium physics. I can't even spell quantium physics! ya know??? the other guy, he deals with depression alot, which is understandable, but common. both of these guys. GET REAL! The world isn't against anyone. you have to create for yourself. If you don't do it, then don't expect it to be handed to you because you're just oh so cool. (or pretty or whathaveyou.)

IF they wanted it, they'd start in that direction. Asside from that it's just a bunch of noise...

Most americans are like that. There's an expectation to be givin everything. But that's not the way the world works. If you're tired of being poor, like I am, you do stuff to make more money and you do it in a way that doesn't drive you nuts. If you want better friends, you be a better friend and become more selective about who you keep as friends. You want to live in a new place, well. make some cash, and then move there. You want to publish books? well shit. then go publish books.

There is nothing that's out of reach. and I'm tired of hearing people complain that it's too hard or out of sight or whatever.

life takes alittle work. sweat isn't a bad thing.

but you don't bitch about the fact that that's your life. you own it.

I see your point. For me, all those who can be helped – and are open to being assisted –will have all my strength and support. But there are those who, no matter how much advice you provide, will simply not get off there arse’s or out of there hole and take action. It takes fire in your spirit to rise again. Some people seam to be waiting for divine intervention to grab them and burst them back to a life full of love and positivity. A great voice from above will never arrive. The intervention (some may not believe in the divine, in any form) can only come from inside. A will, or desire to say that “enough is enough, I’m not going to carry on this way any longer!” That, and only that is the prime ingredient to making the necessary change in their lives. I’ve seen those who have overcome addictions with that very attitude, and have a new wonderful taste for life and more energy than they could have ever imagine while in there previous state.

I’m frustrated at the moment waiting for an alcoholic to get to the stage where they can be help without remitting every five minutes!




[Edited on Nov 21, 2004 by RideTimeless because i took way too long to type my comment!]

[Edited on Nov 21, 2004 by RideTimeless]

This reminds me of my post in another thread.

I was brought up in a poor family and my middle class friends used to moan about the most trivial things. Things that I would brush aside without a thought.

I found problems to be unpleasant and I wanted to avoid and minimise them. My middle class friends seemed to seek out problems and to try and maximise them. They did not have any real problems and that left them adrift on the whims of their emotions.

Think back to scenes of starving Africans. Do they wail and moan in the way that affluent people do?

The trend seems to be the less real trouble you have in your life the less it takes to upset you and the more you moan.

This thread reminds me of an old girlfriend I had. She said that the strap-on was forwhen I was an "extra good little bitch," but i thought I should get that super slider up my pooper every time. I used to complain and she'd say "Stop your whining you pathetic little bitch!"
All the time, this happened.

I agree Figment.

I agree pmonkey

this is one of the most intelligent threads i've ever seen here. yeah, i've seen many people rise from the ashes, myself included. sometimes it's hard and i get stuck in a rut, feeling depressed and without contol. but i know it's all in my head. i've come a long way from where i was 3 years ago, and i'm not stopping there. i have friends who haven't evlolved one bit and never will, no matter what i tell them. my example is not good enough for them. i wish i could help them, but i can't hold their hand.

it is hard though, when you try to express you're feelings here and a handful of people shoot you down, and call you names. sometimes they even make threats, just because they don't understand, or agree with you're point of view. and it does kinda hurt that some people lack any kind of compassion or love for their fellow beings. but i say "FUCK THOSE PEOPLE!". to me that's an empowering statement. when people talk shit and put you down, don't get upset or depressed. just say "FUCK YOU!", and keep on plowing through life like a runaway locomotive.

I agree thelastbeliever.
Oh wait, thats me.

I think I love you.

Wait ... if someone had MS would you be telling them to stop whining and sort them selves out? To pull themselves up because no-one else is going to do it for them?

You understand that depression is a real illness, right?

ok, if anyone needs anything Im more than happy to help

Actually i'm not sure where to stand on this one. For anyone that read one of my other topics will know what i'm talking about. Basically i've got some shit going on at the moment and there are people than can help and they are doing.

On the other hand though i do see what you are saying. You should never lean too much on anyone, because if they suddenly go, then you will fall and there no-one there to pick you back up, hough if you stand firm on your own two feet then you always know where you stand.

Read one of my other topics here

Take a quick look at that if you have got a minute please. I need peoples help at the moment because i really don't know what to do. I am not a trained professional and i have had no experience with this sort of thing before. I need the help or else i will never get better, simply because i wouldn't know where to start!

Through others help, life will improve soon hopefully and if it wasn't for that help, i'm not sure i would still be here today.

She even told me she wouldn't have sex with me until i shaved ALL my body hair. So I did. Then that night she made me wait for her in the bedroom. She came in wiht a dude and made me sit in a chair and watch!!! "See," She said "This is how a real man fucks!" AND "See, that's what a real penis is supposed to look like." When they were done they made me "finish my business" with my hand while they laughed at me. ANd let me tell ya, when my hair started to grow back it itched like a mohter!!!!!


Ah, memories....

did anyone watch the ironman competition yesterday??? those people didn't sell themselves short. the woman with an artificial leg, the women whose children were dying of cystic fibrosis(sp?), the guy who crashed into the motorcycle and carried his bike the rest of the way, the 70 yr old men and women. those people are true hero's. then there were the people who were behind in the beginning and they felt that they couldn't win so they gave up.

just because you're old or have a disease or fall off your bike, do you thnk people should pamper you and be extra sensitive just for you? "oh, it's ok sweetie, you're different than other people, you have a disadvantage, you don't have to try as hard as them."

I know exactly what you mean, my hair is growing back right now and it has been so uncomfortable. I think I am finally past the most uncomfortable part.