NEWS: No Difference Between Hetero, Lesbian Families

CULTURE: No Difference Between Hetero, Lesbian Families

A study released from the University of Virginia has found that there is no discernable difference between children raised by a heterosexual couple and those raised by a lesbian couple.

All those states that passed “protection of marriage” laws, including my home state of Oregon, can suck it, fuck themselves, or otherwise take their righteous indignation that says that same-sex couples can’t raise "normal" children, roll it tight, and stick it up their ignorant asses.

Awesome, thanks Christopher. My lesbian sister, her girlfriend and their three awesome kids thank you as well.

well duh their kids are normal... we had to have a study and spend money on research for this?? wtf?!

[Edited on Nov 16, 2004 10:06PM]

Thankfully this study was done in a red state at a relatively conservative college, so they can't claim some liberal leaning pinko athiest commie pervert out west or up north did the study and faked the results. Either way, yay, further proof that people who are different aren't evil!

Well, a good friend of mine was raised by a lesbian with 4 kids by different fathers before she turned 100% lesbo, and his family life was nothing like mine. And I was totally envious. Live in girlfriend at 15, band practice every night, parties, growing dope and cultivating mushrooms? Fine by her. JUST NO SMOKING IN THE HOUSE! Smoke on the deck.



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werd to tha author. Lesbian is just a term for a persons sexual orientation, and for any person to pass laws barring or banning someone else's personal choices (and, as you can tell, I'm not just talking about homosexual leanings) is in the same vein as the segregation and slavery in our previous history.

Unfortuantely, after having wrote that last part, I just remembered that a large portion of our country still harbors ill feelings towards people of color.

I will now promptly go vomit in disgust at the existence of these individuals.

I completely agree.

You know, I just don't know where I stand on the issue. I am all for gay marriage. Gay parenting I am on the fence about and here is why.
I think as you become an adult and head out into society that in social settings as well as in your vocation you are going to have to deal with both men and women. Sometimes you are going to have to deal quite closely with them and I think having an equal perspective on both sexes is extremely important in growing up a well rounded person. Therefore I think the ideal situation is to be raised by a man and a woman.
It is not mine to say however what anyone will do. I do not condone laws that restrict personal choices.
I would just encourage everyone walking the planet right now to think long and hard before you bring a child into this world. It is the single most important choice you can make right now. Contrary to popular belief your choice to bring a child into this world effects more than just yourself, your spouse and your family. It effects society as a whole, and it is something that I wish society as a whole would take a whole hell of alot more seriously then they do.

Raised by a lesbian and feel it hindered me in No way. If anything made having ass of a Dad a little easier. Just wish the woman would find a damn girlfriend already.

Uhh... Why is it ideal? You're talking like children are only exposed to their parents while they're growing up - most aren't. Boys learn just as much (if not more) about "being a man" from their peers and TV than they do from their fathers. If anything, you're advocating communal living.

You mean kids raised by lesbians will be just as emotionally crippled as I am? Poor bastards.

Just out of curiosity, is there any kind of similar study of kids raised by male same-sex couples?

Whereas I can see validity in your argument, I must disagree. I am not personally affected by this situation; however, do hold a bit of knowledge on the absence of a proper father figure. Certain male influences DID help me become who I am, but on the whole, others had nothing more than a negative influence on my outlook. I think for a stance to be taken on this issue (as a whole) is doomed to be a mute point: a person is directly affected by their upbringing, yet no particular leaning on this issue may dictate a better or worse situation.
As you have already stated, you hold no prejudice against gay marriage, and I must congratulate you on being fair and open-minded. Not many people seem to realize they have no right telling others how to live their private lives.

As for your advice to would-be parents, I must strongly agree with your opinion.

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You know, I disagree with the idea that you have to grow up with both sexes. I agree that there's a chance that that might be ideal, but these days, ideal isn't even part of the question. Kids are being brought up today oftentimes by one parent, and not necessarily a good one. Tons more kids have at least one shitty parent, or divorced parents. If a child gets two loving parents, that's good enough for me.

I mean, to be fair, there's no guarantees that two gay parents are going to be any better, but especially the way things are now, gays really have to jump through a whole shitload of hoops to be parents, whereas heterosexuals need only make a mistake.

I'm glad this study was done and that it turned out the way it did, and that I'm reading about it now.

Sadly, I think that's the last we'll ever hear of this study.

regarding the article: DAMN STRAIGHT.

(pun not intended)

What's with the implied competition between straight parents and gay parents? It's not like there are only a scarce amount of kids to go around. Hell, if the conservatives get their way, abortion will be illegal and we'll need gay parents to pick up all the extra unwanted babies.

it makes me sad that this study had to be done in the first place to prove that lesbians can be good parents. i hate people sometimes .

Why?

Agree wholeheartedly

Well, let's not get ahead of ourselves here. These sorts of studies should be done. I think the idea that having parents of both sexes contributes to a child's development isn't unreasonable. I disagree with it, or at least think that the difference it makes is too tiny to be concerned with, but it's an idea. This is why these sorts of studies are done. Having nothing to do with homophobia, I think it's a good study to do. Finding out what ill effects people can inadvertantly have on children is always important.

I babysit for two children adopted from Romania by a lesbian couple. These kids are amazing kids, extremely well behaved, actually more so than some of the "normal" family kids I've known. Part of it is because they are from a Romanian orphanage, and literally had to take care of themselves or die. (that is NOT an exaggeration. some of the horror stories they tell in a matter of fact voice raise my hair on end). But the biggest part of it is that their mothers raise them in a loving, nurturing environment. As for male role models, they have teachers, uncles, two grandfathers, friends, a whole array of males to choose from. Even if they didn't have so many men in their lives, I still think they would be just as well adjusted as they are, simply because their mothers are raising them well. End of story.

The only problem they had was at school when one of their classmates dared a girl to kiss another, for whatever reason, and one of my boys said "There's nothing wrong with that, my moms kiss all the time". The other kids made fun, of course, and the boys were a bit confused, but I think as homosexuality becomes more accepted and mainstream, ie legalizing same sex marriages, this will cease to be a problem.

there are so many children out there that need good homes, I can't see why anyone would refuse gay couples the right to adopt children. Hopefully this study will further the cause.

I knew quite a few people like that, with straight parents. It's got nothing to do with sexual orientation and everything to do with hippie parents.

I guess with no male parents the children are also at less risk of sexual and physical abuse. So, maybe lesbian parents are safer??

I understand your position on the issue, and that's great, so don't take this as an attack. I just see a couple of flaws in your argument, and it's a common argument I've had to deal with when speaking about gay rights.

Kids have many role models throughout their lives, most notably teachers, coaches, family friends, and extended family. A son, raised by two lesbian mothers, will still get plenty of opportunities to model himself (if he wishes) after a male role model.

Using your logic about the absence of a father, we shouldn't have single-parent homes either. That doesn't make much sense. What about a boy who is raised by one woman? He doesn't have a father present either, but nobody would imagine taking him away from his mum.

[Edited on Nov 17, 2004 by Sorcha]