How do you know when it's over?

and you still won't take the hint

you Know when you Know. the question you're asking is 'When should I listen?'

Ah reading this thread has made me feel

The reasons you want to end your relationship are the same reasons my ex gave to me.

She's gunna be crushed. (I know this prolly doesnt help, but I'm still bitter).

You should talk to her. Like right now.

[Edited on Nov 09, 2004 by lilac]

But....you don't underSTAND....I can MAKE you love me. I just have to try harder.

wow and on that note, good luck to ya

And after you talk to her end it immediately. It doesn't help anyone to try and be friends right afterwards. I know I tried for two years and it made it even more difficult when she told me about her new "very serious" ralationship. Take a long break from each other and see where you both are afterwards. Also it's not a bad idea to talk to a good friend of hers and let them know why you are doing what you are.

now i feel like an asshole - like an enemy or something

is it wrong of me to feel this way?

I dunno.

Maybe you should talk to my ex sometime

AHHHHHHHHH

sorry, I've been trying to get some stuff back from my ex and she just called to talk about it and a run in we had the other night. I don't want to talk to her, I can't talk to her without heavy physical reactions.

Beatnik- It's not wrong. Don't feel any worse than you think you should. A bit of advice might be to really think about why you feel this way. I made a mistake about two years into our relationship that I didn't understand until recently and it makes it easier for me to see how we got to where we aren't.

Well Im happy to know others have been in that situation.
Right now Im at that point and questions arise.
Scary thought but you cant fight it so give yourselves a break and if its meant to be you 2 shall be back together.

Telling him is harder than I expected.

From my experience, once you think it might be over, it usually is....

Sad but true.

Good luck.

Ull know when its over when ur around her and theres silence and that silence feels akward. But it sounds like u already know the answer. I also agree with soldatka and Domnicella. Some good advice

when she says,"i feel like i should be with a woman..."

Dump her already. You'd rather be the dumper than the dumpee. If you don't and she dumps you, you'll probably start another thread like, "Why did she dump me?"

I recently went through a similar break-up. My unhappiness in the relationship wasn't her fault, but the fact is that I wasn't happy. I decided to end it. I still have mixed feelings about it. Although I can't say that I'm 100% sure that ending it was the right thing to do, I do know that things wouldn't have changed unless I did something to change things.

I recently was in the same situation, just after 3 years together. In my case, I had grown a lot over the last 3 years and he hadn't at all. It took me a long time to realise that it was over.

Are you still interested in having sex with her? If your sex life has dwindled to nothing that can be a good sign that stuff's not right.

I agree that if you're wondering if it's over, it probably means that something is very wrong at the least. But you should be talking to her about it, not us.

Good luck.

Oh! And also, when you do break up, don't mistake missing her (natural) for feeling like you made a mistake.

It's natural to miss someone that you've seen every day for the last 3 years, but don't read too much into it.

Also, don't give her any false hopes about getting back together. If you say "yeah maybe in 6 months or something... " she'll never be able to move on.

When I start to sing.

You always can look forward to ex-sex ummm the best sex in the world

You know the answer already, if you are asking the question.

it's over. break it off clean and walk away. don't talk to her for at least year after you walk.

listen to the beautiful girl. she is wicked smart.