i need a super-duper big favor

I need a reallllllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyy big favor from anyone whose willing to do it.

i'm doing a research project for my psychology class thats due right after thanksgiving so i need to get my ass in gear.

basically i need a "short" (which isnt really short, atleast 1 page, however, more is better) description of a time when you experienced suicidal thoughts. and its more common than people think damnit! it happens to everyone at some point. the description has to detail what situation you were in, what was going on, how you were feeling, etc. etc. put as much detail as you can and feel free to ramble on.

this is anonomous, so no names. however, gender, age, and city or just state, if you prefer, would be greatly appreciated.

basically what i do with the descriptions is cut them up into "themes" and find similairities amongst them and then i write a long ass paper on it.

so, please, if you have some extra time and want to help a girl out, be nice and write me an essay

you can e-mail them to corduroy000@hotmail.com

thanks in advance, you'd be saving my ass.

Some people here will give you great advice.... cash help me a lot with my resume.......

I have no advise for the suicide bit though sorry....

Does it matter if it's type one or type two ideation?

Would you prefer people to concentrate on the lead up to the suicidal thoughts, or the time during the suicidal thoughts, or what happened after?

And how much is a page, in words, roughly?

yup, more specs, then i'll send it.

its for my college general psychology 101 class, yes a page is roughly about 500 words, and all of the above. here's the exact instructional paragraph according to the good doctor dupillie:

" Please describe, in as much detail as possible, a situation in which you experienced having suicidal thoughts. Please describe the overall situation as fully as you possibly can, including as much as you can remember of what happened and what you were thinking and feeling."

basically, what got you there, how you felt, and how you got over it.

and sure, i'll post the semi-final product for all to see as long as i get some whorthwhile opinions on how to make it better. (and how to get an A+)

If I could describe it in more than a paragraph I'd love to help. Unfortunately (for your paper) it was a very breif moment in my life.

maybe having the thought was brief, but what lead to it and how you got over it couldnt have been brief. or it could. i dunno. thats what i'm trying to research i guess

Where do you go to school? Most universities have very strict guidelines regarding use of human subjects for research, regardless of the fact that what you're asking is pretty benign. I mean, I've always had to get informed consent, do a debriefing, etc. etc. for even the simplest research, because universities that do not follow these federal guidelines risk losing federal funding.

edit: basically I'm asking if your school has an IRB, and did you have to submit a research proposal to them beforehand?

[Edited on Oct 27, 2004 by waxangel]

Dude, this is for a general psychology 101 class essay, not a masters or a doctoral thesis. I think she's looking for a general idea about the subject. I'm pretty sure things like this are ok, though you might know something I don't. I'll try to get around to writing it tomorrow if I have time.

Good luck.

[Edited on Oct 27, 2004 by crushjunkie]

Yeah, I know, but IRBs are remarkably strict when it comes to human research subjects. They are trying to rule out ALL possibility of harm to the subjects. I'm just saying, if using human strangers as subjects was assigned by the teacher without any of the students having any training or certification in their use, this could be a big mess. And if human subjects were not specifically assigned by the professor, then she should seriously reconsider using them. Psychological research using human subjects is very rarely as benign as it may seem at first, and asking strangers to draw on suicidal thoughts and feelings without ANY sort of support system for if they have difficulties dealing with these emotions after dredging them up is dangerous and irresponsible, from an institutional standpoint.

Fair enough.

I totally know what your talking about, ethics was a majority of the begining of this semester. Technically this is not a research project that involves people coming into a laboratory setting and being experimented on. This is a phenomenological analysis of a completed "survey" question from willing anonomous participants. (Example: I'm being like one of those annoying people that call during dinner and ask you what you watched on television on january 25th, 1997 at 6:03PM lol You know what I'm talking about, right? Totally legal. Irritating? Yes, but legal.) This is only going to end up being an essay to get a grade in a class, not a research project whose results will be published in a scientific journal. So, most ethics rules towards research, do not apply here. Unless, of course, I drive down to where-ever you live, tie you to a chair, hold a gun to your head, and force you to answer the question. Which, in all honesty an A just isn't that important to me (and gas is wayyyyyy too expensive!)

In addition,

I go to a community college. We can't afford human subjects assigned by the professor. Also, this type of research is done routinely by all researchers, usually, for their own personal interest. It's on a basis of anonomity and volunteers. Plus, there's no hidden agenda (if there was, that would be unethical), I told you exactly what i need and you chose to do it or not. If you go to google or something and look it up you'll find plenty of these essays. Not to mention most psych 101 classes have this project as part of their final grade.

As for asking people to "dredge" up their past suicidal thoughts. If you have constant suicidal thoughts, you shouldn't be here, you should be seeking therapy (Therapy? Hmmm, isn't that where they make you "dredge" up these same thoughts, but at the same time make you over analize them and drive you nuts?) If you're going to kill yourself because I asked to write me a paper on why you had the thought, how you felt, and how you got over it (a paper that you don't even have to do!), then there's something more seriously wrong with you and you do need to seek help.

Writing a paper like this should also be a personal benefit and serve as a venting point not something that's going to drive you crazy (once again this is totally voluntary).

So if you have any doubts about writing something like this, simply put, don't. Like anything else, it's a personal choice.

Like I said my theory is that everyone has one suicidal thought atleast once during the course of their lives. Obviously, though when they do its most likely under some heavey circumstance and it may lend itself to memory repretion.

Write me the paper and help me out or not. Freedom of choice, man.

Anyways, I'm done defending this project, I have hot naked girls to look at.

She's right. This is voluntary and can be anonymous if we wish. She's verified that no harm will come to us because of it, so she's obeyed the first rule of psych studies. It is very much like a phone survey or questionnaire, only she doesn't have to allow for bias.

You're in luck, corduroy! I wrote a long journal entry about this a couple of years ago. Let me dig it up. I'll edit this when I find it.

Here you go: http://suicidegirls.com/girls/Sorcha/374724/

[Edited on Oct 28, 2004 by Sorcha]

thanks sorcha! it's greatly appreciated

Edit: I read what you wrote and I was wondering whether you've ever posted that on any suicide prevention boards? If not, you may want to consider it, something like that really can help people. It's really powerful stuff.

[Edited on Oct 28, 2004 by corduroy]

I never really thought of it. I posted it in a board item here a long time ago, and it's been in my journal on the anniversary each year. I'll do some Googling and post it in a few popular forums. Stuff like that is what helped me get out of that funk and get on with my life.

How much time do you think 'therapy' takes? I have four and a half hours a week; that's three appointments, and I still find plenty of time to be on SG.

You've got quite a lot to learn, eh? None of my therapy has been the stereotyped 'talking' therapy.

You're seriously saying that you cannot see how asking some people to re-visit painful memories might be unexpectedly triggering for them?

Using words like crazy when you're talking about mental health problems probably isn't a great idea.

what makes you think i don't know what therapy is? you don't know me at all. you don't know anything about my life, etc., etc.

And please, I don't care whether or not you go to therapy, everyone and their mother goes. It doesn't make you special, it makes you just like everyone else.

And on the "talking" therapy thing, that's one of the only therapies proven any good. If we're still talking psychological therapy. I'm anti-psychiatrist, here, I hate meds (from personal experience of course). So if therapy involves loading up your everyday depressive with zoloft or prozac, its no good. There's many people that should be on those meds, but there's many, MANY more that should be taken off. (also from personal experience)

Like I said to begin with, I believe everyone has or will have atleast one experience with suicidal thought in their lifetime. I'm targeting this at those people, not people that think about it everyday.

AND FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, THIS IS VOLUNTARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
if you're going to have some kind of nervous breakdown writing something like this, for god sakes, don't do it!!!! I'M NOT FORCING YOU INTO THIS.

CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY!!!! get over it, its just a word. everyone is crazy, and if you're not than you're not "normal".

NOW, can we get back to the fact that this is about a GENERAL PSYCHOLOGY 101 PAPER. I'm not a fucking doctor here, I'm an 18y/o community college freshman trying to pass a class. Give me a fucking break before I go CRAZY (oooohhh the evil word again) lol

Come on, I need one or two more essays, there's got to be someone out there willing to help me out rather than willing to argue.

GOOD MORNING TO ALL, btw.

edit: oh jeez, too early to be getting grammar right. bah.

[Edited on Oct 29, 2004 by corduroy]

*bump*

please, atleast one more?

pretty, please?

You could probably do a Google search and find a bunch.

i can't do that, it has to be written personally for me by a volunteer. technically it's illegal and plagerism for me to just look some up.

i often fantasize about being brutally murdered. i mean, i don't want to kill myself nor do i want to die just yet. but if i was to go, that's how i hope it goes down.

Damn right it's common, like mental problems, once you start being open about it you realise half your friends and work colleagues have gone through it. I'll send you my stuff now, good luck

Just read The Bell Jar.

Who? "doctor dupillie"? Is that spelt correctly?

[Edited on Nov 01, 2004 by demetrius_z]