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aegies

aegies

Oakland, CA
June 2004

AUG 12, 2004 01:06 PM

gracias. and you are not ugly, so cool it.

CookiePuss

CookiePuss

Dinosaur, CO
November 2002

AUG 12, 2004 01:08 PM

Not sure if anyone said this, but hopefully he will use his money to pay for some ass instead of raping people...

nymous

nymous

Raymore, MO
March 2004

AUG 12, 2004 01:14 PM

The guy doesn't probably "deserve" the money, but he should get it. I agree with the above statements about it being a lottery and everybody is entitled to their winnings. This isn't much different than convicted criminals making money in jail by writing books and creating websites. They gave him a sentence of so many years, if they wanted more opportunities to punish him then they should have said so when they handed out the sentence.

MetaTag

MetaTag

United Kingdom
September 2002

AUG 12, 2004 01:41 PM

It makes a change from Lottery Louts

Who drive old bangers (cars if that does not translate to American) and make noise at all times of the day and the night.




dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

AUG 12, 2004 01:49 PM

aegies said:
um, I'm positive I'm going to get roasted for this, but its a LOTTERY. that means that ANYONE and EVERYONE has the same chance to win. to say anyone couldn't participate because of what they did in the past is a pretty dangerous precedent to set, isn't it? And then to say that after your sentence is served you can be arbitrarily be punished more because someone FEELS like you deserve it seems a bit, well, fascist. Sounds kind of like something cough<bush>cough might try to implement (with provisions made for white collar crime, of course.

do you really want to be anymore like us Britain?



David Blunkett is "Home Secretary", he's the minister in charge of the "Home Office", who are the department responsible for law and order. He's part of the UK government.

He often pops up after some high profile case and comes out with some nonsense.

MisterGraves

MisterGraves

Portland, OR
November 2003

AUG 12, 2004 02:37 PM

RattFinkPink said:
Not sure if anyone said this, but hopefully he will use his money to pay for some ass instead of raping people...



sorry to be a feminist on you here but RAPE IS NOT SEX.

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

AUG 12, 2004 02:48 PM

xer0yne said:

RattFinkPink said:
Not sure if anyone said this, but hopefully he will use his money to pay for some ass instead of raping people...



sorry to be a feminist on you here but RAPE IS NOT SEX.


Thank you, xer0yne.

cezar

cezar

Chicago, IL
December 2002

AUG 12, 2004 03:31 PM

xer0yne said:

RattFinkPink said:
Not sure if anyone said this, but hopefully he will use his money to pay for some ass instead of raping people...



sorry to be a feminist on you here but RAPE IS NOT SEX.



I'm glad you straightened him out. I'm sure he gets the two mixed up on a regular basis and no one here knew what the difference was.

Anyhow, you can not retroactively punish someone for a crime. Fining someone money down the road for a crime committed before (and convicted and punishment handed out) could be applied to other crimes than rape. While I'm sure almost everyone uncluding myself agrees that rape is horrible, I don't want the neo cons trying to knock on my door in 15 years telling me that I owe them more for some silly crime (lets say possession) because now I have a good paying job. If something is to be done either a) the lottery should change it's rules or b) a punishment that includes future fines based on wealth should be implimented.

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

AUG 12, 2004 04:05 PM

demetrius_z said:
I think, but I am not sure, that 'ability to pay' is taken into account when setting fines and compensation in the UK. I'm not sure about this and I might have got it wrong.



Now, that seems a very valid point. I do have to wonder if even a multi-millionaire would get hit for 7million. And to be frank, the idea of retroactive penalties does kind of rub me the wrong way. But then again, the idea of taking ability to pay into account when setting fines does so also (although I do understand why that would be the case)

obd

obd

Venice, CA
June 2003

AUG 12, 2004 04:21 PM

apesamongus said:

demetrius_z said:
I think, but I am not sure, that 'ability to pay' is taken into account when setting fines and compensation in the UK. I'm not sure about this and I might have got it wrong.



Now, that seems a very valid point. I do have to wonder if even a multi-millionaire would get hit for 7million. And to be frank, the idea of retroactive penalties does kind of rub me the wrong way. But then again, the idea of taking ability to pay into account when setting fines does so also (although I do understand why that would be the case)



Is there is no civil lawsuit process in the UK by which this man's specific victims might recover money for pain and suffering?

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

AUG 12, 2004 04:25 PM

obd said:

apesamongus said:

demetrius_z said:
I think, but I am not sure, that 'ability to pay' is taken into account when setting fines and compensation in the UK. I'm not sure about this and I might have got it wrong.



Now, that seems a very valid point. I do have to wonder if even a multi-millionaire would get hit for 7million. And to be frank, the idea of retroactive penalties does kind of rub me the wrong way. But then again, the idea of taking ability to pay into account when setting fines does so also (although I do understand why that would be the case)



Is there is no civil lawsuit process in the UK by which this man's specific victims might recover money for pain and suffering?



If there is, wouldn't it come right after the criminal trial. It's been years since that by now. And you can't do it twice.

wsj

wsj

I'm lost
September 2002

AUG 12, 2004 04:46 PM

Nobody who wins a lottery has "earned" their money. Do they deserve it anyway? Hell yes they do. To not award the winnings after the fact is simply wrong, however to place new rules on the lottery affecting future games would be comepletely in line. The guy may very well be a total douche bag, but to allow, and even support, the government to enact laws and penalties retro-actively is irresponsible and indicates a people that deserve to be oppressed!!!


Beat me senseless!!!
ARRR!!!
TKS

Graven

Graven

Reading, MN
March 2003

AUG 12, 2004 07:59 PM

Actually, I found this hilarious. What a fucking break! I'm sure victim's rights groups are going insane over this, as they should, I suppose.

Whether he's changed or not, though, it's his money. And like some of you said, he served his time, so there's no reason he should have it taken away.

I mean, they want to make a law saying ex-cons can't win the lottery? How fucking stupid is that? That's like saying ex-cons can't own real estate...

aegies

aegies

Oakland, CA
June 2004

AUG 12, 2004 09:47 PM

i think the point here is, we need to protect the lowest common denominator from getting screwed by an unfair system to ensure our own protection from getting screwed by that system. whether you like it or not, the system has no recourse here, criminally, and it shouldn't; if it did, everyone in that society would be subject to arbitrary and spontaneous rejudgement for crimes that may or may not have been commited and had already served time for.

dem_z

dem_z

United Kingdom
June 2004

AUG 13, 2004 02:54 AM

obd said:

apesamongus said:

demetrius_z said:
I think, but I am not sure, that 'ability to pay' is taken into account when setting fines and compensation in the UK. I'm not sure about this and I might have got it wrong.



Now, that seems a very valid point. I do have to wonder if even a multi-millionaire would get hit for 7million. And to be frank, the idea of retroactive penalties does kind of rub me the wrong way. But then again, the idea of taking ability to pay into account when setting fines does so also (although I do understand why that would be the case)



Is there is no civil lawsuit process in the UK by which this man's specific victims might recover money for pain and suffering?




Ms Blears told BBC Radio 4's Today programme she hoped "somebody somewhere is thinking about the possibility of civil proceedings for damages".


Ms Blears is a Home Office minister, she works for David Blunkett.

The article doesn't say how long he has served, or how many rapes he commited. Life does not mean life in the UK.

SteveNeurotic

SteveNeurotic

Charlotte, NC
January 2004

AUG 13, 2004 03:04 AM

This pisses me off just about as much as when I see lottery winners on TV, in front of their large homes with 2 Mercedes and a Porsche already in the driveway.
Like they need it. whatever

NoPantsDave

NoPantsDave

Cincinnati, OH
OLD SKOOL

AUG 13, 2004 03:14 AM

He deserves the money just as much as anyone else would. He bought the ticket, he won, it's his money. If the British legal system has any provisions that figure in "ability to pay", they would have to be based on ability at the time of the crime. It's unfair to change his punishment after he's been assigned a punishment unless new crimes are discovered. Should we just randomly tack on an extra few years while we're taking his money away?

Another interesting question.....is it the source of the money that bothers people? Would it be different if he had inherited the money from a rich aunt or something?

PyronauticA

PyronauticA

Clarkston, WA
July 2002

AUG 13, 2004 03:21 AM

madichon said:

walkswithbears said:

cunt, cunt, and thice over, cunt.



this has nothing to do with the asshat who won the money, and i'm sure there are a million threads about this out there, but i'm going to say it anyway.

i love the word cunt. love it-- as a descriptive word refering to female genitalia. it makes me rather sad, though, that it's become what some consider to be one of the most vulgar and offensive words in the english language.

that's all. you may now return to relevant posts.




I was about to say that the word 'cunt' makes me horny.

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