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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

AUG 09, 2004 04:00 AM

I first learned about the Mossad from a friend of mine who grew on a kibbutz in Israel. When I asked him about the violence between people there, he recalled going on field trips where the parents carried M16s. He told me a story that occurred when he was in high school. While he was riding to school one morning, they came upon a roadblock where a high-ranking Palestinian official had been assassinated. Later, he asked his parents what had happened and they said that his cell phone blew up when the Mossad called him. The Israel Secret Intelligence Service operates in a way similar to the CIA, except they are surrounded by states that don’t necessarily like them being there. But being surrounded by hostile nations, taking part in clandestine operations outside their border, and perusing and “collecting” Nazi war criminals in South America makes the intelligence agency one of the most decisive and secretive organizations in the Middle East.

And Stephen Spielberg wants to make a movie about them..

Recently, the NY Post wrote a story about delays in bringing Spielberg’s adaptation into reality. The Post had reported that the delays were brought on by terrorist threats to the production. Spielberg’s spokesperson cleared up the controversy.


"Thanks for checking with us. The NY Post story was wrong about the speculation about the delay. It is and has been the script pages which continue to get to Steven almost every day. That's the reason for the delay" Levy said. The Post story (along with many other sources) have also been calling the film "Vengeance", although it has been made clear a few times from DreamWorks that the project will not be specifically based on the George Jonas book "Vengeance" (although DreamWorks/Universal has optioned the rights to Jonas' book as it potentially is one of the contributing sources to the project).

Vengeance is reported to be about the 1972 Summer Olympics where a group of Arab militants broke into the Olympic village and killed eleven Israeli Olympians over the course of a few days. Twelve of the Arab militants were found and killed by five Mossad agents. In addition, Spielberg is also considering a film about the Six Day War and the creation of the I.A.F.

[Hat tip : DarkHorizons]

Gnarface_Killah

Gnarface_Killah

Denver, CO
January 2004

AUG 09, 2004 04:21 AM

I think it would be cool if Spielberg made a movie about the IAF. They have a wonderful history and their pivitol in the history of Israel

FrankMask

FrankMask

Saint Paul, MN
June 2003

AUG 09, 2004 04:33 AM

I'm not afraid of the Mossad, but only because I know they don't have any reason to be cross with me.

WilliamIV

WilliamIV

I'm lost
January 2004

AUG 09, 2004 07:56 AM

I expect just another propganda film out of this, saying my side is great the other side are bad.

royaljack

royaljack

Brooklyn, NY
OLD SKOOL

AUG 09, 2004 10:14 AM

WilliamIV said:
I expect just another propganda film out of this, saying my side is great the other side are bad.



"Free Willy" was total propaganda. They never talked about all the times Willy was a complete prick. confused

ClockworkJim

ClockworkJim

Levittown, NY
February 2004

AUG 09, 2004 11:20 AM

Will the have all the stuff about mossad killing french scientists and officials who were helping Sadam build a Nuclear power plant? Or how they paid off A few american families to spy on the USA?

ThisIsWhoWeAre

ThisIsWhoWeAre

Oakland, CA
July 2004

AUG 09, 2004 11:42 AM

This is just a bad idea for a movie. Not that it wouldn't be interesting, but it's just asking for a fight. Muslims will cry Zionism, Jews will cry Anti-semitism in response. Nobody's clean enough to come off well in this story. I'd love to read a book about Mossad, but Hollywood should stand back. (Just my opinion)

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

AUG 09, 2004 11:51 AM

Tell me again how a movie directed by the most influential Jewish director in history would be considered anti-semite?

ThisIsWhoWeAre

ThisIsWhoWeAre

Oakland, CA
July 2004

AUG 09, 2004 01:00 PM

Not that the FILM would be labeled anti-semitic, the (possible) Muslim response of Zionism COULD trigger a counter of "anti-semitism" by the Jewish community.

Muslims:"That's a zionistic movie" (and we must protest)
Jews:"That's an anti-semitic attitude" (and we will protest your protest)

I have a great number of friends in both communities, and respect them both. I just don't want to see another venue for fighting and name-calling. I get enough of that at work.

royaljack

royaljack

Brooklyn, NY
OLD SKOOL

AUG 09, 2004 01:55 PM

The one thing you need to realize is that to most Muslims ALL of Western movies are controlled by the pro-Zionist Hollywood Cabal. So this would be no different.

Saying this movie should not be made because it would be perceived as pro-Zionist by a few racists is idiotic. Technically speaking, "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is Zionist propaganda if you look at it that way. Saying a film about the Mossad should not be made is stupid. Just as stupid as saying "Passion of the Christ" should not have been made. I'd rather see more films about real topics than to see dozens of pieces of mass produced crap that have no meat to them. Films for entertainment purposes only have their place, but the modern Hollywood--and even Indie world--is just producing piles of sugar coated crap.

AclockworkJim, I hope they do mention the raid against the nuclear power plant in Iraq and the French scientists who were killed. But it was not a Mossad action. It was a general military action. If a neighboring state who outwardly acts against you--and in the case of Israel, Iraq WAS an agressor--then fuck them. Bomb their asses off. Israel was justified. In fact Israel had more justification to do that than the U.S. had invading Iraq.

ClockworkJim

ClockworkJim

Levittown, NY
February 2004

AUG 12, 2004 05:10 AM

I was saying that as a hope, IT really is an interesting story. I was wtaching something on the history channel about it a few months ago.

EndedBen

EndedBen

Grand Rapids, MI
August 2004

AUG 12, 2004 05:17 AM

There's not a good chance this won't be a one-sided super-pro Israeli/Mossad movie.

Luckily, his next movie is going to be 'War Of The Worlds' starring Tom Cruise.

Max16Characters

Max16Characters

Korea, Republic Of
March 2003

AUG 12, 2004 10:15 AM

That's great and all, but is he ever going to get around to filming Indy IV? Seems like he has a million different things he "needs" to do and takes so long to do them that by the time Indy IV could be done, Indiana Jones is gonna be fighting Commies in a wheelchair.

walkswithbears

walkswithbears

United Kingdom
March 2003

AUG 12, 2004 11:33 AM

his motives for making schindler's list are famously questionable (as is the narrative), so i really think he should stay away from jewish themed material.

i think schindler's list was justifiably labelled, 'Holocaust Park' for its utter sensationalism. he made a jewish tragedy, a traumatic one that defies credible representation, into a Hollywood product, with a beginning, middle and end. the film's style displaces any documentation it is supposed to be based on, and replaces personal memory with an attempted singular public on; the film gave closure, whereas for the jewish community, there will NEVER be closure on such an issue.

this is why spielberg should not be allowed to make this film. by the nature of his oevre, he is destined to make the same mistakes again, documenting trauma as a closed loop with an unequivocal ending and a final jugement.

(as an aside, despite the millions of lost jewish lives, the hyperreal ending where the fictional is mixed in with the real, and we see real holocaust survivors, schindler's list is dedicated to a catholic film producer pal of spielberg's. how sick is that! that's why he shouldn't be let near this kind of material)

Cyric

Cyric

I'm lost
October 2003

AUG 12, 2004 04:06 PM

dude, its just a movie

MetaTag

MetaTag

United Kingdom
September 2002

AUG 12, 2004 05:08 PM

walkswithbears said:
his motives for making schindler's list are famously questionable (as is the narrative), so i really think he should stay away from jewish themed material.

i think schindler's list was justifiably labelled, 'Holocaust Park' for its utter sensationalism.



My family background is partly Middle Eastern and don't like the constant focus on the bad parts of the Middle East. It is good that there is discussion, but a constant repetition of Arab = Terrorist, Arab = Fundamentalist, Arab = Fear is damaging to the prospect of finding understanding and from that peace.

I first saw the kind of knee jerk thinking that media exposure creates during the oil crisis when the only exposure of Arabs on TV was of Oil Sheiks. Everyone asked "are you a rich Oil Sheik". That was stupid, but funny in a way.

As for Schindler's List, I thought that it was a very good film. The European Jews suffered terribly under Hitler and the film gives a good sense of the arbitrary cruelty handed down at that time.

If Spielberg does make a film about Mossad, I doubt that it will focus on the bad things done by the organisation, such as the Lavon Affair, but I am sure that the film would be interesting because there is a rich history to explore.