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NEWS: Illinois Allows People with AIDS to Donate Organs

Christopher

Portland, OR

November 2002

JUL 16, 2004 03:00 AM

CULTURE: Illinois Allows People with AIDS to Donate Organs

The state of Illinois has signed into a law a provision that allows people with H.I.V. to donate organs to others that have the virus. Federal authorities contend that it violates the National Organ Transplant Act of 1984 that expressly forbids donating organs that may carry the virus.

Details of how Illinois's plan will work are far from being sorted out. Advocates said it would essentially require the creation of a separate organ donor pool in the state just for those with H.I.V. As is already the case, all organ donors would continue to be screened for infection, disease and other problems. In years past, people with H.I.V. were not considered good candidates for receiving organs because of their reduced life expectancy. That was because drug treatments were far less advanced and life expectancies of potential H.I.V.-positive organ recipients were far shorter.

"This was not a topic five years ago, but it certainly is now,'' said David Munar, associate director of the AIDS Foundation of Chicago. "And that tells you something about how things have changed."

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JUL 16, 2004 03:38 AM

I thought people with HIV were supposed to have protected sex even with other people with HIV because they could reinfect each other. Has something changed?

a548456

United Kingdom

OLD SKOOL

JUL 16, 2004 05:20 AM

Clara said:
I thought people with HIV were supposed to have protected sex even with other people with HIV because they could reinfect each other. Has something changed?

Is that possible?
As much as I like the idea that they're still being allowed to donate if they want to, I'd sure hate to be involved when there's a screw up (which they probably will be with Human Error) and someone winds up with HIV because their new organ was HIV+

fiendish

Brick, NJ

December 2002

JUL 16, 2004 05:29 AM

ya human error would be a problem cuz it happens allot.

Neyrissa

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

JUL 16, 2004 08:15 AM

Clara said:
I thought people with HIV were supposed to have protected sex even with other people with HIV because they could reinfect each other. Has something changed?

You can "reinfect" someone who already carries a virus...the only way you could reinfect them is if they'd cleared the virus completely. As this is not possible, even with today's treatments, I don't think this is correct...

Lain

Astoria, NY

April 2004

JUL 16, 2004 08:38 AM

And I bet you they do this out of good will. After they take their organs...

They incinerate them 5 minutes later. Cause lets face it.. after your dead.. You aint going to know shit.

Plus. Imagine this

"Congratulations on your new Heart Mr.Morini"
"Whos heart do I got?"
"A deceased AID's victim"
"Mother Fucker!"

[Edited on Jul 16, 2004 8:46AM]

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JUL 16, 2004 09:30 AM

Vixen said:
You can "reinfect" someone who already carries a virus...the only way you could reinfect them is if they'd cleared the virus completely. As this is not possible, even with today's treatments, I don't think this is correct...

Maybe I'm thinking of HPV, which is a virus that has more than sixty strains. Therefore it's possible for a person to have more than one kind of HPV at one time. Or maybe I'm thinking back to really early HIV/AIDS info when they really didn't know much at all.

Maybe google and I will have a talk later.

[Edited on Jul 16, 2004 by Clara]

AntiPrincess

HOPEFUL

Manteca, CA

JUL 16, 2004 10:10 AM

Clara said:

Vixen said:
You can "reinfect" someone who already carries a virus...the only way you could reinfect them is if they'd cleared the virus completely. As this is not possible, even with today's treatments, I don't think this is correct...

Maybe I'm thinking of HPV, which is a virus that has more than sixty strains. Therefore it's possible for a person to have more than one kind of HPV at one time. Or maybe I'm thinking back to really early HIV/AIDS info when they really didn't know much at all.

Maybe google and I will have a talk later.

[Edited on Jul 16, 2004 by Clara]

HIV has different mutations, some of which lead to different manifestations of the HIV symptoms, and some are more, um, hostile than others. So, yes, I've also heard that people living with HIV should have protected sex with each other.

FallFromGrace

Seattle, WA

March 2004

JUL 16, 2004 07:43 PM

if for no other reason, they should have protected sex because even the mildest of colds could kill them if their immune system is down... imagine dying from a fullblown case of syphillis.

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JUL 16, 2004 07:45 PM

AntiPrincess said:
HIV has different mutations, some of which lead to different manifestations of the HIV symptoms, and some are more, um, hostile than others. So, yes, I've also heard that people living with HIV should have protected sex with each other.

So that would lead me to believe that sharing organs is probably also a bad idea. I mean, I want to assume that the doctors already thought of this, but huh?

vader

Las Vegas, NV

OLD SKOOL

JUL 16, 2004 09:40 PM

there are 2 types of HIV, type 1 and type 2, for HIV-1 (the more common) there are groups M and O, wich contain many very different subtypes, HIV-2 is less easily transmitted, and the period between initial infection and illness is longer, these subtypes vary greatly in severity, replication, and transmission efficiency, which means that for an infected person in sexual contact with another HIV-infectee there is a very high risk of seroconversion, (upgrading you illness) personally I believe HIV-infected individuals deserve the same rights as anyone in regards to organ donation/reception, however I will admit that if I required a transplant, I'd be a tad freaked out if I lived in Illinois