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Evolkix

Evolkix

Van Nuys, CA
March 2004

JUL 15, 2004 12:13 AM

I have a question about payment for drawings. I usually just tattoo. but I've been approached to draw a comic book for some people and they want me to basically story board the whole thing...(about 64 panels give or take) based on a story they give me.
I've never really done anything like this, so what should I charge?
what is scale?? I'm thinking a few hundred bucks and a percentage, or is it not done that way?

Thanks

Evolkix

Evolkix

Van Nuys, CA
March 2004

JUL 15, 2004 01:09 AM

damn... jus fell down and got a

*bump*

HyenaHell

hyenahell

I'm lost
April 2003

JUL 15, 2004 02:57 AM

well, i'm an artist, and i used to do comics (although never for somebody else)...
my friend is doing an editioned letter press book for someone, and i'll give you the same advice i gace her. i'd draw up a few panels and see how long it takes, then take it to your clients and get feedback. if they like it, and give you the go-ahead, i'd estimate how long it would take you, and give yourself $10+ an hour, plus the cost of supplies. also, i've never accepted payment for a project before it was finished... that's my $.02.

Evolkix

Evolkix

Van Nuys, CA
March 2004

JUL 15, 2004 10:59 AM

Thanks Hyena..

anyone else know anything?

HelloCentral

HelloCentral

Saint Agatha, ME
February 2004

JUL 15, 2004 11:34 AM

no, but i damn well wish i did. tongue

MechanicalMonkey

MechanicalMonkey

Portland, OR
June 2004

JUL 15, 2004 11:41 AM

I have no clue but the_cheat would prolly be able to give you a better idea. She's an artist possibly heading that direction. She'd give you a better idea.

I however would have to say 10$/hour. And that depends on the story they give you.

Evolkix

Evolkix

Van Nuys, CA
March 2004

JUL 15, 2004 01:42 PM

*bump*

I know..I know... I'll stop soon I promise, just a couple more

violentreaction

violentreaction

United Kingdom
June 2004

JUL 15, 2004 03:51 PM

most people i have come accross on deviantart.com have done the hourly rate thing n see how long it takes. or have a base price for roughly how long it would take u and if it takes longer charge per extra hr.

but just so you know, this is from what i've read, never acctually charged for anything i've done

poptard

poptard

United Kingdom
November 2003

JUL 15, 2004 03:59 PM

i think if you chagre an hourly rate then thats a good thing, no one will give you a percentage, welll not many peapli anyhoo,

i personly have never charged for my work as of yet, but then i've only done a handfulll

Geeva

Geeva

SUICIDEGIRL

Romania

JUL 15, 2004 04:00 PM

estimate how long the project will take you overall
take in consideration the fact that this is your first assignment
Depending on how much they like you and want your work, I would charge 40-80$ a panel.

Evolkix

Evolkix

Van Nuys, CA
March 2004

JUL 15, 2004 04:05 PM

Gevie said:
estimate how long the project will take you overall
take in consideration the fact that this is your first assignment
Depending on how much they like you and want your work, I would charge 40-80$ a panel.



do you mean a flat rate of 40-80 bucks a panel, or 40 to 80 plus a percentage of the earnings??

boonfark

boonfark

Vatican City
January 2003

JUL 15, 2004 11:31 PM

Comic artists get paid by the page, not by the hour or the panel. The rate you get paid depends on what your client can bear. If it is for a friend then charge them something cheap like $50 a page. If it is for an agency or institution then charge them $100 or $200 a page.

But consider that each page would average perhaps six panels, so you're talking about a lot of work regardless of what you charge.

Many working cartoonists would be very happy to regularly get a hundred or two per page. That's why it is such a tough way to make a living. Drawing for advertising is the best way to get money because they have it to spend, but it is work by committee in the extreme and it will drive you nuts.

You have to work for the big companies like Marvel or DC for several years before you ever make any real money and by then you are burned out.

Good luck.

Geeva

Geeva

SUICIDEGIRL

Romania

JUL 15, 2004 11:43 PM

sorry, I meant picture, not panel.
I knew someone who did it this way, but that might just be his thing.

muertos

muertos

I'm lost
April 2004

JUL 16, 2004 01:07 AM

The per-page thing is how most freelance artists do it. Or you could get a contract, but unless your Jim Lee or Michael Turner, good lukc.

EricJ

EricJ

San Diego, CA
August 2002

JUL 16, 2004 01:23 AM

It sounds like they want you to do it as "Work for Hire", which basically means that they pay you for the drawings and that's that, although you can sometimes work out a royalty/percentage of profit arrangement, especially if the initial pay is very low and you're all friends. A lot of Indies and start ups do that, and that's how the majority of teams that do books for Image have it worked out. usually you keep the original art and can do what you like with it. A lot of people, like me, sell the originals for a little extra cash if there's a market for them.

When you say 64 panels, though, do you mean 64 pages? Like some of the others said, the pay is per page and if it's a start-up/ small indy I wouldn't expect anything over $50.00 a page, although I've heard of some with good funding paying around $80.00. Another thing, if you're going to be penciling it and inking it get ready for some very, very long nights.

Anyway, good luck, man, and have fun doing it. That's the main thing, if it's not fun, it's going to be tough getting through it.