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SpaztikFantaztik

SpaztikFantaztik

Brooklyn, NY
April 2003

JUN 18, 2004 10:14 AM

Just reinforces Spurlock's message, doan'cha think? Brilliant PR move... whatever

royaljack

royaljack

Brooklyn, NY
OLD SKOOL

JUN 18, 2004 10:23 AM

FrameOfReference said:
Knowing McDonald's the apples are probably injected with rendered beef fat for "flavor." puke



Perhaps the Grimace spooned softly with each apple.

JustMee

JustMee

Vancouver, WA
January 2004

JUN 18, 2004 10:29 AM

darko said:
Hey, I actually enjoy the Grilled Bacon Ranch Salad by McDonalds.

*gets hit by a flying brick*

blackeyed . o O ( bastards )



Those salads are a total trick too. Once you add the dressing they have over 500 calories and more fat then a Big Mac. MMM MMM good... puke

bcguitar33

bcguitar33

Jamaica Plain, MA
January 2004

JUN 18, 2004 10:47 AM

If you ate just apples for too long, you'd eventually go blind for lack of ritinol. All this movie proves, to me, is that anything, in excess, is bad for you.
Which most of us didn't need to eat a month of McDonalds food to realize.

neverender

neverender

Pleasanton, CA
January 2003

JUN 18, 2004 01:14 PM

i love the people that think "well im ok, i only eat the salads there"

HAHHAHAH


Quarter Pounder = calories 430 | fat grams 21 | carbs 38

california cobb salad = calories 370 | fat grams 21 | carbs 20
newmands cobb dressing = calories 120 | fat grams 9 | carbs 9

yeah, eat the salad.
and i picked a salad that was average. they have some that double that.



oh, this is even better. allow me to now post the ingredients of the cobb salad.

Grilled Chicken Breast Filet: Boneless, skinless chicken breast filets with rib meat containing: up to 12% of a solution of water, seasoning [salt, sugar, garlic powder, onion powder, spices, whey, flavor (maltodextrin, natural flavors (vegetable source), dextrose, monosodium glutamate), partially hydrogenated soybean and cottonseed oils, Romano cheese (Romano cheese {milk, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes, calcium chloride}, nonfat dry milk, disodium phosphate), parmesan cheese powder (enzyme modified parmesan cheese {milk, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes, calcium chloride}, nonfat dry milk, disodium phosphate), xanthan gum, cheese flavor (dehydrated cheddar cheese {cultured pasteurized milk, salt, enzymes}, maltodextrin, autolyzed yeast extract), extractives of paprika (color), potassium sorbate (preservative), citric acid, and less than 2% silicon dioxide added to prevent caking], partially hydrogenated soybean oil and partially hydrogenated corn oil with citric acid (preservative), sodium phosphates. May contain wheat from contact with Crispy Chicken Breast Filet. Salad Mix: Iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce, spring mix (may contain baby red romaine, baby green romaine, baby red leaf, baby green leaf, baby red swiss chard, baby red oak, baby green oak, lolla rosa, tango, tatsoi, arugula, mizuna, baby spinach, radicchio, frisee), carrots. Bleu Cheese: Bleu cheese (pasteurized milk, cheese cultures, salt, enzymes), powder cellulose to prevent caking, natamyzin to protect flavor. Bacon bits: Cured with water, salt, smoke flavoring, sodium phosphate, seasoning [gum acacia, smoke flavor, maltodextrin, hydrolyzed corn protein, natural flavor (vegetable source), autolyzed yeast extract, hydrolyzed corn, wheat, and soy protein, modified cornstarch, contains less than 2% of disodium guanylate, disodium inosinate, natural flavor (vegetable oil), salt, succinic acid, xanthan gum], sodium erythorbate, sodium nitrite. Chopped boiled egg. Grape tomatoes.


last time i made a salad at home, i only remember buying 5 things:::

royaljack

royaljack

Brooklyn, NY
OLD SKOOL

JUN 18, 2004 07:19 PM

asinine said:
last time i made a salad at home, i only remember buying 5 things:::



Err, not defending McDonalds, but there's a big difference between and ingredient list and a chemical breakdown of what's in a food item.

Take a vegan tofu salad and send it to a lab for anaysis it would look as bad the McDonald's list.

The three big issues with fast food is the preservatives needed to keep things from rotting, the sugar added in extreme amounts for flavor/coloring and fat used to quickly fry or cook the stuff and add to the flavor.

If you're going to eat a burger, you could do worse than going to a local diner and having something there. Heck, the nutition kick is a good angle for local fast food chains to clean up their act and buy locally/freshly and work that positive reputation to fight the McDonald's of the world.

MrZablowdowski

MrZablowdowski

Edmonton, AB
December 2002

JUN 18, 2004 07:29 PM

snake and apple... old story...

alhim

alhim

Bridgeville, PA
January 2003

JUN 19, 2004 06:15 AM

royaljack said:

asinine said:
last time i made a salad at home, i only remember buying 5 things:::



Err, not defending McDonalds, but there's a big difference between and ingredient list and a chemical breakdown of what's in a food item.

Take a vegan tofu salad and send it to a lab for anaysis it would look as bad the McDonald's list.

The three big issues with fast food is the preservatives needed to keep things from rotting, the sugar added in extreme amounts for flavor/coloring and fat used to quickly fry or cook the stuff and add to the flavor.

If you're going to eat a burger, you could do worse than going to a local diner and having something there. Heck, the nutition kick is a good angle for local fast food chains to clean up their act and buy locally/freshly and work that positive reputation to fight the McDonald's of the world.



Go to grocery store where there is a normal (most of the store) area and an organic section. Compare ingredients. You will see a list of ingredients, many very harmful, in most normal items. And in the organic section you will see 3-8 ingredient lists and stuff like that saying simple 'eggs, carrots, potatoes, salt, pepper, honey' that type of thing. My point is, that you DO NOT need any of that shit that they put in that food unless the quality of the food itself is already horrible. It is often said that you vote with your money, and everything you buy is your vote to maintain and endorse it. If you can afford it, as not everyone can in all situations (though if you buy the right stuff, organic food can often be almost as cheap), buy organic. Or better yet, study up on it, and first see why that might be a goo didea, and then choose what is right for you.
And I think it is good that nutiritionalist kick might cause changes, like for instance, McDonald's dressing being Newman's (a good brand), but lets not get dellusional here. We dont need that fucking food and can make better and cheeper more healthier and better tasting food at home or elsewhere. So does it not come down to laziness and dull perception?
And I really dont think many Americans are really worthwhile to get into a conversation about this, because they have been raised on and continue a tradition of eating crappy irradiated hydrogenated gentically modified microwaved refined artifical food all day long, that they often dont even know what it feels like to live off an extremely good tasting fulfilling and healthy diet. And thus they cant monitor thier bodies reactions to the fast food, because their average day diet is almost as bad.

Eating that shit lowers you.
"Suck that big scaly pecker!" ~Bill Hicks

And if you want some good food, go to a decent Inidan restaurant near you and show some love for thier brilliant culture. Just dont spend 5 minutes of your server's time asking him for something that 'isnt too spicy'. I still cringe every time I hear this, which is almost every day. Suck it up and eat it, bland ass wanker. smile

One_Pure_Thought

One_Pure_Thought

East Greenwich, RI
October 2003

JUN 19, 2004 11:27 AM

I like hearing my fast-food addicted friend bitch about how he hates what that movie has done.

"Jesus christ, everybody KNOWS mcdonalds is shitty for you. People have the right to turn their body's to shit. NOW THE FRIES TASTE BAD AND I CAN'T EVEN SUPERSIZE ANYTHING!!"

God I love my asshole friends.

royaljack

royaljack

Brooklyn, NY
OLD SKOOL

JUN 19, 2004 06:53 PM

alhim said:
And I really dont think many Americans are really worthwhile to get into a conversation about this, because they have been raised on and continue a tradition of eating crappy irradiated hydrogenated gentically modified microwaved refined artifical food all day long, that they often dont even know what it feels like to live off an extremely good tasting fulfilling and healthy diet. And thus they cant monitor thier bodies reactions to the fast food, because their average day diet is almost as bad.



That's correct to a point. It's not that most Americans are idiots. It's that some can't afford better and have little to no choice. My biggest complaint about "Super Size Me" was that it was overly focused on the marketing of fast food and not on the economic and social reality that some people just don't have a choice.

Some TV newsshow here in the U.S.--Nightline or 20/20--did a great report on this aspect of fast food culture that most people forget about. One woman they profiled talked about how she tries to cook for her family when she can. But economically it does cost less to go the fast food route. Yes in the long run, the health costs will most likely balance out those savings. But if you're on a tight budget there's not much you can do.

And in most places in the U.S. there simply is no other choice for many people. If you're poor and live in the projects and have no car, you're going to eat close to where you live. And those places are often crappy fast food places or crappy supermarket chains that carry crappy processed food.

For what it's worth, back in the mid-1970s the only McDonalds in my neighborhood in Brooklyn closed. At the time it was a big deal since McDonalds was very much like Starbucks then. They open. And never go away. The main reason they closed is that the local neighborhood was filled with tons of better choices. Delis and fresh food all over the place; everything very affordable. And while the neighborhood wasn't that great, the food was cheap enough and plentiful enough that most people--even those on food stamps--could even afford to eat better than people in other crappy neighborhoods in NYC at the time. The closest parallel I can find nowadays is in places like Chinatown. Moderate to poor working class families who are not rich. Yet the neighborhood provides plenty of fresh/good food and people can eat well and grow well. And last time I checked--which was today actually--Chinatown has few if any fast-food chains.

The point is that I would not blame the fast food epidemic mainly on people's stupidity and marketing. Because if you give people real choices that compete against fast food chains, most people will choose the healthier option. But at $9.99 for a bucket of chicken, most people are hard pressed to find a healthy alternative that fits their budget.

[Edited on Jun 19, 2004 by royaljack]

alhim

alhim

Bridgeville, PA
January 2003

JUN 20, 2004 04:48 AM

From viewing the prices of what a normal person spends at a fast food restaurant, I would still say that for the same exact price you can get much better and about the same amount, at leat in most places; though you are right, there are some places where it is not so. At least around where I live, there are many family owned grocery stores, hi quality eateries and take-out places, health food stores, and other low cost alternatives. Perhaps in some places there arent many alternatives in the local area and it is thus more a problem of supply and demand, thus still blame lies on misplaced spending habits. I definitely used to think that fast food was bought because it was inexpensive, but after a lot of talking with people and consideration and paying attention, it blatantly is not true. Fast food IS expensive. At the worst, if you buy in bulk from the right places and cook for yourself, if money is really that much of a problem, you can have a very wide and daynamic and tasty diet.
I mean, it certainly is not a black/white issue. And I liked yoru post. There are some positives and negatives on both sides, but the statement 'there are no other options but to eat fast food for some people' can be misleading when in fact these individuals are a rarity if you disclude the people who this is only true for due to a complete lack of resourcefullness and dignity.
Like they say to people who are about to jump off a building... "THERE ARE OPTIONS!".

alhim

alhim

Bridgeville, PA
January 2003

JUN 20, 2004 05:02 AM

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[Edited on Jun 20, 2004 by alhim]

alhim

alhim

Bridgeville, PA
January 2003

JUN 20, 2004 05:20 PM

throatneedle said:
i wonder if the apples being given out have beef flavoring added to them



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