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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

MAY 28, 2004 08:00 PM

Richard Kelly has been interviewed about his next project,Southland Tales. He plans to begin production of the "comedy" sometime this summer. The film includes Sarah Michelle Gellar, Seann William Scott, Jason Lee, and director Kevin Smith.

He [Kevin Smith] and I have become really close friends. Kevin always jokes that he can’t act but if you’ve ever seen him, even outside of his films in his sort of stand-up – not stand-up comedy, it’s more him being a storyteller like on the “Evening with Kevin Smith” DVD – he really has a real charisma and an ability to tell a story. If you look at someone who can have a presence like that on stage, to me that’s acting.

Southland Tales will follow the re-release of an extended, director's cut of Kelly's first film, Donnie Darko.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

MAY 28, 2004 11:24 PM

Slashes = moody rainstorm?


I am so terrified about the idea of Richard Kelly doing a comedy it hurts.

Hammersmith

Hammersmith

Boston, MA
December 2003

MAY 28, 2004 11:31 PM

I think this was brought up a long time ago as well.

Interesting idea. Hoping it works out.

clovesbud

clovesbud

Los Angeles, CA
September 2002

MAY 29, 2004 12:19 AM

Into The Great Wide Open?????

Hello??.....

miao!!

dempsey

dempsey

Seattle, WA
June 2003

MAY 29, 2004 02:23 AM

I hope this means Kevin Smith will be getting himself out the rut he's been in the past few films...


regardless, I'm looking forward to it (but not the fact that I'm going to have to buy another version of donnie darko in the future... damn it).

Fstick13

Fstick13

Colorado Springs, CO
April 2003

MAY 29, 2004 02:48 AM

heh hey, any more of Donnie Darko they have to show...I'll gladly pay for..that movie is seriously good. Can't say enough about it, even though I've seen it a bagillion times over the last few years. I'm just glad that we'll get to see it in the theaters!! That's gonna be rad biggrin

ClicheGuevara

ClicheGuevara

Toronto, ON
September 2003

MAY 29, 2004 03:02 AM

any comedy with Jason Lee has great potential.... so I can't wait for this

machfive

machfive

Minneapolis, MN
August 2003

MAY 29, 2004 10:10 AM

With SMG and Jason Lee in it, I'm there...

Hammersmith

Hammersmith

Boston, MA
December 2003

MAY 29, 2004 10:56 AM

Okay, I guess there's a reason why "comedy" was in quotes. Check out the website, this doesn't look TOO comedic.

okrevolver

okrevolver

I'm lost
November 2003

JUN 02, 2004 08:50 AM

Donnie Darko was one of the greatest movies evar




Kevin Smith for president!! smile

Cherie

Cherie

Providence, RI
October 2002

AUG 31, 2005 12:42 PM

So from what I've heard...

Sarah Michelle Gellar is playing a porn star
SNL's Cheri Oteri is playing "a villainous lesbian bodybuilder"

and Sean William Scott and the Rock are in it too...

hmmm...I guess we will have to wait and see... surreal

van_goghs_ear

van_goghs_ear

Farmington, MI
March 2005

AUG 31, 2005 01:04 PM

i cannot wait for this. from what i've read/gathered so far this seems like one of the most ambitious and original production put forth in awile.

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

AUG 31, 2005 01:20 PM

Funny that this should come up tonight I was just watching some Darko special features on the Director's Cut special ed.. I am still going through this huge process of trying to understad what the big deal with Darko was. The more I watch it the less it seems to mean. And I can hear other people's reasons for loving this aspect of it or that aspect of it but when you add it all up it doesn't seem to get past the vague mood of benevolence stage.

People keep saying 'this was amazing' but they never say why. Unless they're going on about identifying with Donnie. I didn't identify with Donnie because I'm not particularly existential in my world view. But people who do, which comprises the entire fanbase seemingly, also point to the soundtrack, or the symbolism, or the themes. I'm not arguing that these things are non-existent or imagined. I can see them, I can sympathise with them. Not only that I read the whole text of "The Philosophy of Time Travel" gleaned from the Net. I get the film. But I can't really see why they should have inspired this cult any more than a dozen other less well regarded and sometimes utterly forgotten films.

So maybe this next piece of the puzzle will give me some answers...

[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by fpkk]

podsix

podsix

USA
June 2003

AUG 31, 2005 08:55 PM

fpkk said:
Funny that this should come up tonight I was just watching some Darko special features on the Director's Cut special ed.. I am still going through this huge process of trying to understad what the big deal with Darko was. The more I watch it the less it seems to mean. And I can hear other people's reasons for loving this aspect of it or that aspect of it but when you add it all up it doesn't seem to get past the vague mood of benevolence stage.

People keep saying 'this was amazing' but they never say why. Unless they're going on about identifying with Donnie. I didn't identify with Donnie because I'm not particularly existential in my world view. But people who do, which comprises the entire fanbase seemingly, also point to the soundtrack, or the symbolism, or the themes. I'm not arguing that these things are non-existent or imagined. I can see them, I can sympathise with them. Not only that I read the whole text of "The Philosophy of Time Travel" gleaned from the Net. I get the film. But I can't really see why they should have inspired this cult any more than a dozen other less well regarded and sometimes utterly forgotten films.

So maybe this next piece of the puzzle will give me some answers...

[Edited on Aug 31, 2005 by fpkk]



Yeah, i'm with you on all of this. i was not a big fan of the donnie darko movie, but it did have an uncomfortable vibe that i was kindof into. to compare and contrast, there was a very small movie out last year called 'primer' that explored the same time travel mindfuck themes. it was IMO a crap film because although it had really interesting plot twists, it failed to establish any kind of mood or depth. the Donnie Darko, on the other hand, has a ton of mood but lacks any kind of resolution or purpose. I totally failed to notice- even after repeated viewings- any of the teen-angst-underdog-punk-rock-badass-artsy appeal that a ton of people assigned to it. however, like i said, im very interested in seeing how this guy handles a (hopefully) more complex project.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

AUG 31, 2005 11:28 PM

This is pretty much the only movie I'm looking forward to right now.


re Darko: it's a great movie, but it's one of those films where people expect more from it than they should, and then marginalize it as an emo epic when they feel like they don't get it.

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

SEP 01, 2005 05:34 AM

Jeff_Fries said:

re Darko: it's a great movie, but it's one of those films where people expect more from it than they should, and then marginalize it as an emo epic when they feel like they don't get it.



Not to be harsh but that's not what I was saying.

I don't think it's a bad movie per se, although I do have issues with any movie where support materials are *required* to get the most out of it. People hammered The Matrix because you couldn't really pick up on any of the half-baked philosophical references if you didn't read a lot of theological, existential and scientific philosophy. In The Matrix (as a trilogy) this weakened a weak film even further. In Darko it does allow for a wide degree of interpretation from a viewer but I still view it as a weakness.

If I were going to compare DD to anything I'd choose a film like Johnny Suede which was equally weird in the same sort of ways (and required no further reading!) but which you can't get for love nor money any more. People ignored it and I love it. I admit it's not a perfect movie by any stretch of the imagination but it's the early 90s equivalent to DD.

So the puzzle continues (for me at least) as to why this fairly mediocre (but interesting) movie should be so lauded when films with a similar agenda and execution are ignored.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

SEP 02, 2005 01:00 PM

fpkk said:
I don't think it's a bad movie per se, although I do have issues with any movie where support materials are *required* to get the most out of it.



They're not though. Whether or not the director's cut was ever made, people loved the original film all by itself. It (the film) doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense, but neither does Mullholland Drive, and people have no problem calling it a masterpiece.

People hammered The Matrix because you couldn't really pick up on any of the half-baked philosophical references if you didn't read a lot of theological, existential and scientific philosophy. In The Matrix (as a trilogy) this weakened a weak film even further. In Darko it does allow for a wide degree of interpretation from a viewer but I still view it as a weakness.



The references weren't the point with The Matrix. It didn't matter if you didn't get them because that wasn't essential to the experience of the film. As for Darko, I didn't think the "explaination" explained it much further anyway - the gist is that the film is made from resonant ideas from deep in Richard Kelly's subconsious mind, and make for an effective film.

If I were going to compare DD to anything I'd choose a film like Johnny Suede which was equally weird in the same sort of ways (and required no further reading!) but which you can't get for love nor money any more. People ignored it and I love it. I admit it's not a perfect movie by any stretch of the imagination but it's the early 90s equivalent to DD.

So the puzzle continues (for me at least) as to why this fairly mediocre (but interesting) movie should be so lauded when films with a similar agenda and execution are ignored.


That's no way to frame it. I don't like The Golden Child as much as Raiders of the Lost Ark because they're both funny action comedies with ancient temples in them. I like Raiders more because I think it's better, and if you like Johnny Suede more it is because you think it's better than DD. It really doesn't bother me that people don't like DD either; I just feel like some people wouldn't if they hadn't gotten hyped up over it.

[Edited on Sep 02, 2005 by Jeff_Fries]

fpkk

fpkk

United Kingdom
June 2003

SEP 03, 2005 04:06 AM

Jeff_Fries said:

Some fair points and

[Donnie Darko] doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense, but neither does Mullholland Drive, and people have no problem calling it a masterpiece.



A masterpiece? Even people who like it call it flaky... for the most part.

I still think that Donnie Darko is more about mood than message.

So I guess it all comes down to me liking message.

[Edited on Sep 03, 2005 by fpkk]

jonnyboyevil

jonnyboyevil

United Kingdom
August 2005

SEP 03, 2005 04:18 AM

i thought donnie darko, for all its confusion, just felt 'right'? anyone agree...?

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

SEP 03, 2005 05:21 AM

I think it one of the best films of all time, ever.

Jibaili

jibaili

Australia
March 2003

SEP 03, 2005 05:59 AM

could be interesting, fingers crossed..

wh00dini

wh00dini

United Kingdom
December 2003

SEP 03, 2005 07:34 AM

Kevin needs to step into a new genre

jake_lex

jake_lex

Lexington, KY
February 2003

SEP 03, 2005 10:13 AM

fpkk said:

Jeff_Fries said:

Some fair points and

[Donnie Darko] doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense, but neither does Mullholland Drive, and people have no problem calling it a masterpiece.



A masterpiece? Even people who like it call it flaky... for the most part.

I still think that Donnie Darko is more about mood than message.

So I guess it all comes down to me liking message.

[Edited on Sep 03, 2005 by fpkk]




I thought that, if you strip away the sort of self-conscious mysticism around it, it was a fairly standard sci-fi plot; something has happened to alter the space-time continuum in ways it shouldn't be, and that damage must be fixed. Hell, watch the City on the Edge of Forever episode of Star Trek for an example of that.

jonasgrumby

jonasgrumby

Portland, OR
April 2004

SEP 03, 2005 10:50 AM

fpkk said:

Jeff_Fries said:

Some fair points and

[Donnie Darko] doesn't make a whole lot of logical sense, but neither does Mullholland Drive, and people have no problem calling it a masterpiece.



A masterpiece? Even people who like it call it flaky... for the most part.

I still think that Donnie Darko is more about mood than message.

So I guess it all comes down to me liking message.

[Edited on Sep 03, 2005 by fpkk]


Donnie Darko = masterpiece
Mullholland Dr. = masterpiece

I probably wouldn't put either one of them even in my top 50 favorite movies, but what they do they do very, very well, in an uncompromising and original fashion.

And for that matter, I had Donnie Darko figured out without all the supplementary material. It was nice to see my interpretation validated after listening to the DVD's director commentary.

Mullholland Dr., though, took some time.