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Pav

Pav

I'm lost
February 2004

MAY 17, 2004 05:00 PM

According to this KSHB Action News account, a federal grant appropriated over a quarter million dollars to a small town to study the dangers of going Goth.

[In] the fall of 2002, Blue Springs, a city of 48,000 people, received $273,000 from the Department of Education to study the Goth scene. The goals of the grant were to host town hall meetings to educate people on the "dangers" of the Goth culture. Train front line people to spot kids in trouble due to Goth and get them help. And provide assessments and psychological testing to kids with behavior problems as a result of gothic culture.

Two years later, "only" half of the grant was used. Although it's not quite clear on what. In her defense, program administrator Allyce Ford had this to say:

"In my estimation, anything that deals with youth is not considered unnecessary. I don't think enough money is being spent to study what is going on in some of their minds."

AceTracer

acetracer

Hollywood, FL
January 2004

MAY 17, 2004 05:05 PM

I can find out what's going on in teen mall goths' minds quite easily, smack em with their wallet chains till it falls out an ear. ooo aaa

Muzencab

Muzencab

Federal Way, WA
November 2003

MAY 17, 2004 05:06 PM

The other half was used on black dye and makeup. biggrin

kidding folks.

What has prompted other people on the site to get into the goth scene?

MrSmead

MrSmead

Savannah, GA
February 2003

MAY 17, 2004 05:06 PM

You could always try talking to your kids like human beings. You know, showing nonjudgemental concern and providing sincere advice to the best of your ability, keeping in mind that kids need to learn their own lessons and find themselves.

Trahern

Trahern

United Kingdom
March 2003

MAY 17, 2004 05:10 PM

The only danger specific to Goth culture is listening to a different kind of crap music. Because crap music crosses every barrier anyone's invented for it.

Inkpool

Inkpool

Modesto, CA
February 2004

MAY 17, 2004 05:16 PM

Goth is everywhere now. Like in the latest Real World, and Nickolodeon's latest cartoon Danny Phantom. This could be one case where it is actually the media's fault.

RobScarlett

RobScarlett

West Hartford, CT
September 2003

MAY 17, 2004 05:20 PM

The only real danger I see in "going goth"..I mean "Goth", is that kids may fall into a harmful pattern of not living up to whatever they could become with proper motivation.
Of course that holds true with kids in any group.
And in some cases they sadly DO live up to thier full potential and end up on Springer.

Muzencab

Muzencab

Federal Way, WA
November 2003

MAY 17, 2004 05:21 PM

Next thing you know they'll start showing Elvis and his hypnotic pelvis on tv.

anger_frog

anger_frog

I'm lost
January 2004

MAY 17, 2004 05:22 PM

I think its great that only did the goverment waste a quarter million on something completely worthless, but also that half of it was embezzled. What exactly is dangerous about goths anyway? I know the poetry really sucks, but I'm pretty sure you can't kill anyone with it....pretty sure.

JayRock

JayRock

Grand Rapids, MI
December 2002

MAY 17, 2004 05:23 PM

well what would rather wear Abercrombie or Black...I chose black....im not goth but thats what I always choose...darker colors...for reasons I cant explain

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

MAY 17, 2004 05:24 PM

I was bored for a couple of weeks...

Actually... I was never even that goth...

Brinstar

Brinstar

Chicago, IL
September 2002

MAY 17, 2004 05:31 PM

This is another issue that touches too close to home for some people to discuss objectively.

There IS a danger with *certain* children who go goth. Sure you can say that about anything, right? Sort of. There is a bit less danger to the kids who join the chess club instead though.

Am I generalizing? Of course.

The goth culture can be seen in many ways. One way is just that... a culture, fine and dandy. The other side is a culture that many depressive kids get into BECAUSE it focuses on the dark, often twisted nature of things. I am sure I will get a bunch of people saying that isn't what goth is *really* about... but so what? If it is what these kids THINK it is about, then it is still a danger to them to take their fragile, depressive states and jump into something that, the way they practice it, just adds to the depression.

/end statement

Begin flaming now...

Pav

Pav

I'm lost
February 2004

MAY 17, 2004 05:33 PM

One day we'll all be 80 and wondering what the hell is going on with this new Znork scene.

Fucking Znork kids walking down the streets in their fully integrated audiovisual headsets blasting bad Gqark music.

Feh.

serendipitous

serendipitous

Orlando, FL
May 2004

MAY 17, 2004 05:34 PM

Your tax dollars at work..... gotta love it.
I was pretty damn goth when I was in high school (before it was coined "goth") and definitely still have "goth" tendencies still, but there were never dangers to me or from me other than normal teen angst rebellion. It is so past the time to get these buffoons out of the White House.

suicideguy

suicideguy

Philadelphia, PA
January 2003

MAY 17, 2004 06:33 PM

I would like $273,000 to fund my ongoing investigation as to why goth girls are so hot.

Chelsea

Chelsea

SUICIDEGIRL

Oklahoma, USA

MAY 17, 2004 06:42 PM

I always thought goth was a fashion or fad, not a political or adolescent movement. hmmm. My mom wears all black sometimes, I wonder if I should worry....I wonder if she's "in trouble due to goth" maybe I should "get [her] some help" HAHA

Horrorflick

Horrorflick

Detroit, MI
February 2003

MAY 17, 2004 06:43 PM

Damn right! love love love I love em' all!!!

Hammersmith

Hammersmith

Boston, MA
December 2003

MAY 17, 2004 06:55 PM

There is a great danger to Goth. I mean, what if your goth children end up maturing the same way the music did: beautiful and brilliant for the first decade of their lives, and then descending into annoying and commercialized self-indulgent crap over overly simple techno beats.

Wait, what was I talking about again?

Pav

Pav

I'm lost
February 2004

MAY 17, 2004 07:05 PM

suicideguy said:
I would like $273,000 to fund my ongoing investigation as to why goth girls are so hot.



Could I have half of that to study why I am all the day with my cock up?

Isadore

Isadore

HOPEFUL

Mesa, AZ

MAY 17, 2004 07:06 PM

Heh!! So true!! biggrin
Actually, I was in more danger before I "went goth", as a pot-smokin' acid-trippin' headbanger!!!! eeek

Hammersmith said:
There is a great danger to Goth. I mean, what if your goth children end up maturing the same way the music did: beautiful and brilliant for the first decade of their lives, and then descending into annoying and commercialized self-indulgent crap over overly simple techno beats.

Wait, what was I talking about again?



flimshaw

flimshaw

Lawrence, KS
October 2003

MAY 17, 2004 07:08 PM

bluesprings, mo is not too far from where i live. the whole thing was a knee-jerk reaction to colombine.

dangerseeker

dangerseeker

Towson, MD
August 2002

MAY 17, 2004 07:47 PM

Muzencab said

What has prompted other people on the site to get into the goth scene?



I used to be goth, but I'm all better now. I joined the goth scene for two very specific reasons. The girls are:

1) hot
2) easy


LL_Bean_J

LL_Bean_J

Portland, ME
May 2003

MAY 17, 2004 07:53 PM

The sun will rise, the sun will set, no conclusions will be made with this silly study, and my road will still have unbearable potholes and frost heaves.

*checks bank account* yep, IRS cashed my check. whatever

sinisterbhvr

sinisterbhvr

Buffalo, NY
November 2003

MAY 17, 2004 08:03 PM

Im not sure tat kids take themselves as seriously as adults think they do

hansel

hansel

I'm lost
December 2003

MAY 17, 2004 08:17 PM

oh the tragedy of it all.

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