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Christopher

Christopher

Portland, OR
November 2002

MAY 13, 2004 06:22 PM

California has placed a maximum weight limit on backpacks because of the stress on young students body frames. In some cases, a student can carry up to 17% of their body weight, chiropractors recommend no more than 10%. In light of recent drug and violence issues, schools have also removed lockers, thus making students carry their backpacks all day.
It is difficult to standardize textbook weight as "a 200-lbs football player is able to carry more than a 90-lbs gymnast". Publishers are considering alternatives to large textbooks.
The standard weight will go into effect this fall.

countervail

countervail

Irvine, CA
May 2004

MAY 13, 2004 06:29 PM

Very interesting. I had it lucky in high school because my school was brand new and had class sets of all the textbooks, meaning that I never had to lug around books, just a binder. I miss NHS... frown

Irina

Irina

HOPEFUL

Chicago, IL

MAY 13, 2004 06:35 PM

I'm moving to Cali. Like now. That's so not fair.

Motionboy

Motionboy

Vancouver, BC
January 2004

MAY 13, 2004 07:00 PM

doesnt apply to art students unfortunately , I carry a drawing pad , a clay sculpture head , a toolbox with all the crap in it + my backpack with a lot of sketchbooks and random stuff in it.


i should sue the school tongue

tomahto

tomahto

San Bruno, CA
June 2003

MAY 13, 2004 07:02 PM

my back is so messed up from lugging around books through my school years, now I only take one or two classes that I know will need books at a time, and just leave them in my car when the class is over.

however, anyone wonder if

lighter backpacks=lighter books=poorer quality books with less in them=poorer education?

just a thought.

Polly

Polly

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAY 13, 2004 07:04 PM

man, my back used to hurt constantly from carrying 8+ binders around.. i always thought it was pretty fucked up to require us to carry so much shit all day.

punk

punk

Phoenix, AZ
January 2004

MAY 13, 2004 08:00 PM

I remember constantly saying in high school that backpack weight would screw our backs up, and that school districts should do more to help reduce the amount/load of books we had to carry.

Glad to see steps taken!

darkstryder

darkstryder

Knoxville, IA
January 2004

MAY 13, 2004 08:32 PM

What a bunch of friggen whinners. Suck it up you pussies. I carry more wieght in my brief case to work then kids carry to school but I don't expect the government to rescue me from my mean evil bosses. What a bunch of sad little whinners.

clara

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

MAY 13, 2004 08:35 PM

darkstryder said:
What a bunch of friggen whinners. Suck it up you pussies. I carry more wieght in my brief case to work then kids carry to school but I don't expect the government to rescue me from my mean evil bosses. What a bunch of sad little whinners.


You're an adult. These kids are still growing and may suffer more severe consequences as a result of carrying heavy loads. What the schools really should do is urge parents to provide their kids with bags that can be wheeled about, like a suitcase.

Jeff_Fries

Jeff_Fries

Humptulips, WA
September 2003

MAY 13, 2004 08:39 PM

Clara said:
What the schools really should do is urge parents to provide their kids with bags that can be wheeled about, like a suitcase.



I remember the girl who had one of those. You knew when she was up and about because you could here her a rollin' down the hall.

Of course my school was incredibly small.

Minerva

Minerva

HOPEFUL

Annapolis, MD

MAY 13, 2004 10:08 PM

darkstryder said:
What a bunch of friggen whinners. Suck it up you pussies. I carry more wieght in my brief case to work then kids carry to school but I don't expect the government to rescue me from my mean evil bosses. What a bunch of sad little whinners.



Kids' skeletons are still pliable because they are still growing, and can be permanently injured by the weight of these backpacks. think of how many adults are plagued by back pain: MILLIONS. how much of this resulted from the weight of their backpacks in school? have a little compassion, pal.

Crowsmeat

Crowsmeat

I'm lost
February 2004

MAY 13, 2004 10:58 PM

Overpacked backpacks are, im pretty sure, responsible for my scoliosis. Christ that history book was freakin huge.

the_cheat

the_cheat

Beaverton, OR
May 2004

MAY 14, 2004 12:52 AM

Ali said:
doesnt apply to art students unfortunately , I carry a drawing pad , a clay sculpture head , a toolbox with all the crap in it + my backpack with a lot of sketchbooks and random stuff in it.


i should sue the school tongue



I know how you feel. Carrying art supplies + hugantic art history book + other regular school supplies = teh suck...especially if you have to ride a train for an hour to and from school.

Blarg.

Oh, this also reminds me of when they made all kids in school middle school and lower use "clear" backpacks cuz they didn't want them bringing weapons and stuff to school. I missed that by one year thank god. Those clear backpacks were so shitty that they fell apart in a few months.


[Edited on May 14, 2004 12:54AM]

[Edited on May 14, 2004 12:54AM]

Gleep

Gleep

I'm lost
September 2003

MAY 14, 2004 01:39 AM

I almost had to forefeight my career as a dancer because of back problems that developed as a kid carrying a bag that was too heavy for me. Its good that someone is finally realizing that this is something that can lead to real problems not only now but when these kids grow up.

Luis

Luis

Preston, ID
February 2004

MAY 14, 2004 02:12 AM

I still remember my middle school locker number:

36-2-36
fuck, wait. *spins it again*
36-2-34
*diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing*
shit!
*runs down the empty hall in his airwalks*

SupremePizzaMan

SupremePizzaMan

Seattle, WA
September 2003

MAY 14, 2004 03:03 AM

Books in DVD form...Like PDFs. That's the way to go.

adjunct

adjunct

Philadelphia, PA
July 2002

MAY 14, 2004 07:48 AM

Publishers are considering alternatives to large textbooks.


Like something actually worth reading, as opposed to an nth revision piece of junk? I think this problem would be solved if schools made serious re-evaluations of what sort of content they want students to get, not by just limiting backpack weights. I know that I rarely, if ever, read even half of any of my large textbooks. Schools should really think about stopping their uncritical funding of the textbook industry.

ravensfeather

ravensfeather

Radford, VA
February 2003

MAY 14, 2004 08:48 AM

SupremePizzaMan said:
Books in DVD form...Like PDFs. That's the way to go.



I agree, some kind of digital form of media would be a vast upgrade to the standard hard copies. My brain works better when i am reading from a computer vs. a book...so maybe it would work better for some. biggrin

[Edited on May 14, 2004 8:49AM]

Madigan

Madigan

Angola
August 2003

MAY 14, 2004 09:12 AM

I actually say 'way to go' on this one. My best friend in highschool did have back problems as a result from all the books she had to carry. Plus, removing lockers? That's ridiculous.

DVD/PDF is a good idea but not very practical, i.e. computer access. For example, my Californian school had at least a thousand more students than it could actually hold -- you can only imagine how long the wait was for a computer in the library. Don't forget, some simply can't afford one.

daniyell

daniyell

Ottawa, ON
December 2003

MAY 14, 2004 09:16 AM

removing lockers is stupid. But I would have appreciated this law while in university. CArrying notebooks and texts for 5 classes on some days made me want to die. And it made me sweat. GROSS. puke

Charlie_Stars

Charlie_Stars

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAY 14, 2004 09:23 AM

put all the text books on Cd, i dont think i know of anyone today that doesnt have a laptop

n8tvegrl

n8tvegrl

Bend, OR
February 2004

MAY 14, 2004 09:48 AM

I've got a bad back and it affects my life on a daily basis. I think this is a good idea because no one should have to experience pain regularly if they don't have to.

Wheeled backpacks are used frequently in my area and once my son gets older (he's in the 1st grade now) I'll get him one!

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

MAY 14, 2004 10:59 AM

I weighed my backpack one year in high school... I carried it every single day, all day long. It weighed 55 pounds.

Helter

Helter

Chester, PA
OLD SKOOL

MAY 14, 2004 11:00 AM

Charlie_Stars said:
put all the text books on Cd, i dont think i know of anyone today that doesnt have a laptop



You don't know of *anyone* that doesn't have a laptop? Hell, I know lot's of people who don't even have computers, let alone laptops.

clara

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

MAY 14, 2004 11:42 AM

Charlie_Stars said:
put all the text books on Cd, i dont think i know of anyone today that doesnt have a laptop


I've never had one and I haven't always been poor. Thousands (at least) of students across the country can't even afford to buy lunch.

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