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DrStinkypants

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN
October 2002

MAY 04, 2004 01:44 AM

The whole alpha male thing, i dont get it.
The thought of being some girl's daddy figure disgusts me
Every time im with a girl i feel like they dont respect me unless im being arrogant/telling them what to do etc.
why do they like that? is it so hard to make up your own mind and have opinions for yourself?

Polly

Polly

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAY 04, 2004 01:47 AM

i would only call it confidence on a rare occasion.

garycoleman

garycoleman

Reno, NV
December 2003

MAY 04, 2004 01:48 AM

having your own opinions is way hard, I gave up on that a long time ago

but for real I don't understand that too

unite105

unite105

Salt Lake City, UT
February 2004

MAY 04, 2004 01:49 AM

I think confidence and being an asshole(like the guys you describe) are completely different. I would consider myslef to be the alpha male in most of the groups I'm in, but its because I'm laid back(not to mention HUGE) Girls around here respect you when you have your own opinions and don't force them on her, I don't know if its different in TX, it probably is, but up here, we treat ladies with respect smile

KlikKlak

KlikKlak

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAY 04, 2004 01:52 AM

usually girls just like assholes.
that's why i've never gone without.

but really,
who doesn't like confidence?
(if it is real)
you're supposed to be a fucking man,
so get some balls,
it's a test.....
ARRR!!!



[edited because i'm a man]

[Edited on May 04, 2004 by KlikKlak]

unite105

unite105

Salt Lake City, UT
February 2004

MAY 04, 2004 01:54 AM

girls usually do like assholes, don't know why, I never have been one, but I geta few girls that talk to me cuz I look the part, but they never stick around long cuz I'm too nice or something. (this is what I've decided by the way, I don't know if thats the real reason, but I can't see any other one)

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

MAY 04, 2004 01:54 AM

DrStinkypants said:
The whole alpha male thing, i dont get it.
The thought of being some girl's daddy figure disgusts me
Every time im with a girl i feel like they dont respect me unless im being arrogant/telling them what to do etc.
why do they like that? is it so hard to make up your own mind and have opinions for yourself?


This isn't confidence. This is arrogance, bullying, and general asshole behavior.

Confidence means you aren't going to whine if I don't call you every two hours, can pick a movie without worrying about whether or not I'll hate you for it, suggest a restaurant without saying, "but only if it's okay with you" nine times, and realize that I'm with you because I WANT to be with you, not because I'm "insane" or "doing you a favor".

Polly

Polly

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAY 04, 2004 01:55 AM

i don't understand why girls go after guys that treat them like shit [ or stay with them ] but it's sadly common.



sadly.

pr0ject605

pr0ject605

Pittsburgh, PA
February 2003

MAY 04, 2004 01:56 AM

When I opened this, all I saw was that it was called "Why do girls like guys" and I was going to come in and say "Penises."

Instead, there's more to it... crap. So much for my not-so-witty comment.

KlikKlak

KlikKlak

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAY 04, 2004 01:58 AM

Sorcha said:

DrStinkypants said:
The whole alpha male thing, i dont get it.
The thought of being some girl's daddy figure disgusts me
Every time im with a girl i feel like they dont respect me unless im being arrogant/telling them what to do etc.
why do they like that? is it so hard to make up your own mind and have opinions for yourself?


This isn't confidence. This is arrogance, bullying, and general asshole behavior.

Confidence means you aren't going to whine if I don't call you every two hours, can pick a movie without worrying about whether or not I'll hate you for it, suggest a restaurant without saying, "but only if it's okay with you" nine times, and realize that I'm with you because I WANT to be with you, not because I'm "insane" or "doing you a favor".



god damn,
you sound like my girlfriend!!!

but only if you want to sound like her, i mean,
if it's okay with you.......is it?
you hate me now don't you?
is it cuz i'm fat?
kiss

MisterSatan

MisterSatan

Portland, OR
August 2002

MAY 04, 2004 01:59 AM

Girls like guys that believe in themselves, and are decisive. It's not about being an asshole- it's about being in possession of a spine.

Word.

unite105

unite105

Salt Lake City, UT
February 2004

MAY 04, 2004 02:01 AM

MisterSatan said:
Girls like guys that believe in themselves, and are decisive. It's not about being an asshole- it's about being in possession of a spine.

Word.


Word.
thats what I was trying to get at, but I couldn't accomplish it nearly as eloquently as you

Isadore

Isadore

HOPEFUL

Mesa, AZ

MAY 04, 2004 02:06 AM

Amen to that!! I hate being told what to do or having a guy order me around!! There is a difference!! mad

Unite said:

MisterSatan said:
Girls like guys that believe in themselves, and are decisive. It's not about being an asshole- it's about being in possession of a spine.

Word.


Word.
thats what I was trying to get at, but I couldn't accomplish it nearly as eloquently as you


pr0ject605

pr0ject605

Pittsburgh, PA
February 2003

MAY 04, 2004 02:07 AM

See, confidence for me is
1) paying attention to little details about her (oh, you like lillies and Jackie Chan movies?)
2) REMEMBERING THEM (Word, I can remember that, I think)
3) making sure I didn't forget to do #1-2 (*scrbbles on my arm while she's not looking, "Lillies and JC."*)
4) using them at opportune times to completely surprise my girlie (it's our day off together, guess what's in the vase on the coffee table, and guess what's in the dvd player!) and
5) cashing in on the sex that follows. wink (fwaBAM)

It's not so much that I'm confident that what I choose will be ok, but I make sure it's something I know she likes. If I ever do anything 'risky,' I'll be nervous, but it's cool because she always knows that I meant well and she completely loves me for it. So I picked a shitty museum to go to, or I couldn't cook as well as I thought... she appreciates it and loves me anyway. And that's why I married her. wink

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

MAY 04, 2004 02:10 AM

MisterSatan said:
Girls like guys that believe in themselves, and are decisive. It's not about being an asshole- it's about being in possession of a spine.

Word.


That's what I was trying to say, but I guess I sound like KlikKlak's girlfriend. wink

[Edited on May 04, 2004 by Sorcha]

DrStinkypants

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN
October 2002

MAY 04, 2004 02:13 AM

Sorcha said:
This isn't confidence. This is arrogance, bullying, and general asshole behavior.

Confidence means you aren't going to whine if I don't call you every two hours, can pick a movie without worrying about whether or not I'll hate you for it, suggest a restaurant without saying, "but only if it's okay with you" nine times, and realize that I'm with you because I WANT to be with you, not because I'm "insane" or "doing you a favor".



My complaint is that no one realizes confidence unless its shoved in their face. I have no problem making descisionjs if necessary. (i prepare for that) but the fact that being an asshole works is only an incentive for me to do so.
granted, i think all that insecure stuff you mentioned but i bottle it up inside.
no one takes the time to realize that confidence is different than obnoxiousness. unfortunatley untill the former works on girls, i will continue the latter.
maybe it is TX... i have had an easy time with the girls in PA whenever i visit...

KlikKlak

KlikKlak

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAY 04, 2004 02:15 AM

Sorcha said:

MisterSatan said:
Girls like guys that believe in themselves, and are decisive. It's not about being an asshole- it's about being in possession of a spine.

Word.


That's what I was trying to say, but I guess I sound like KlikKlak's girlfriend. wink

[Edited on May 04, 2004 by Sorcha]


i'm sorry, don't hurt me......... frown

humberthumbert

humberthumbert

HOPEFUL

Greenland

MAY 04, 2004 02:24 AM

you can be confident, and even controlling (because a lot of women do like that)without being arrogant.



(word, i can remember that, i think) wink

twasbrillig

twasbrillig

I'm lost
August 2003

MAY 04, 2004 02:35 AM

Unite said:
girls usually do like assholes, don't know why, I never have been one, but I geta few girls that talk to me cuz I look the part, but they never stick around long cuz I'm too nice or something. (this is what I've decided by the way, I don't know if thats the real reason, but I can't see any other one)



You know, it's funny, in my experience the guys that complain the most about women only wanting assholes and how they're nice guys and women always walk all over them are usually assholes themselves and just don't realize it.

I'm not saying you are, obviously because I don't know you. I'm just saying.

I wonder if anyone else has noticed or experienced that.

40spokes

40spokes

I'm lost
March 2004

MAY 04, 2004 02:47 AM

It has something to do with Enzyte. tongue



I guess noone got that! shocked

[Edited on May 05, 2004 by 40spokes]

DrStinkypants

DrStinkypants

Saint Paul, MN
October 2002

MAY 04, 2004 02:50 AM

humberthumbert said:
you can be confident, and even controlling (because a lot of women do like that)without being arrogant.



(word, i can remember that, i think) wink




Please tell me how
Isnt that just the same as being manipulative. and isnt being manupilative the same as being an asshole?

stockula

stockula

Anchorage, AK
May 2003

MAY 04, 2004 03:05 AM

Do YOU like being around putzes who are always down on themselves and need constant encouragement, direction and support from you?

Why do you think a girl would be any different?

KlikKlak

KlikKlak

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

MAY 04, 2004 03:07 AM

twasbrillig said:

Unite said:
girls usually do like assholes, don't know why, I never have been one, but I geta few girls that talk to me cuz I look the part, but they never stick around long cuz I'm too nice or something. (this is what I've decided by the way, I don't know if thats the real reason, but I can't see any other one)



You know, it's funny, in my experience the guys that complain the most about women only wanting assholes and how they're nice guys and women always walk all over them are usually assholes themselves and just don't realize it.

I'm not saying you are, obviously because I don't know you. I'm just saying.

I wonder if anyone else has noticed or experienced that.



mybe that is because they are nice guys who are unwanted due to their niceness,
and that makes them mad, so they decide that if an asshole is what she wants, that is what she'll get.
but what she really wants is confidence,
which the guys are lacking, so they're both fucked.

my other theory is:
girls sleep with assholes,
they settle down with niceguys.

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

MAY 04, 2004 03:08 AM

DrStinkypants said:

Sorcha said:
This isn't confidence. This is arrogance, bullying, and general asshole behavior.

Confidence means you aren't going to whine if I don't call you every two hours, can pick a movie without worrying about whether or not I'll hate you for it, suggest a restaurant without saying, "but only if it's okay with you" nine times, and realize that I'm with you because I WANT to be with you, not because I'm "insane" or "doing you a favor".



My complaint is that no one realizes confidence unless its shoved in their face. I have no problem making descisionjs if necessary. (i prepare for that) but the fact that being an asshole works is only an incentive for me to do so.
granted, i think all that insecure stuff you mentioned but i bottle it up inside.
no one takes the time to realize that confidence is different than obnoxiousness. unfortunatley untill the former works on girls, i will continue the latter.
maybe it is TX... i have had an easy time with the girls in PA whenever i visit...


You're hanging out with the wrong girls, then. If they can't recognize confidence without you turning into an asshole to prove you're above them, they aren't worth your time. Trust me.

_Sarah_

_Sarah_

Kalamazoo, MI
January 2003

MAY 04, 2004 03:09 AM

I'm. So. Sick. Of. This. Argument.

Nice Guy = Spineless
Nice guy = desireable, confident, friendly guy (note the difference)
Asshole = Who we turn to when we get sick of spineless, whiny Nice Guys and need a good fuck

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