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Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 10, 2004 02:53 PM

_mike_ said:
Also if the girls legaly misrepresented themselves as adults , they makers of the video arent as at fault as everyone would like to think . If you try to get a tattoo in california and you misrepresent yourself as 18 ( sign consent form and show false id ) , you are also breaking the law and can be held liable .



I doubt the GGW people checked IDs too hard. They've been in trouble for shady morals many, many times before.

And yeah, I'm with Tuffy. I have never seen how those tapes were hot anyway.

evilwillow

evilwillow

HOPEFUL

El Salvador

MAR 10, 2004 02:55 PM

LightbulbJack said:
First off, I agree that minors shouldn’t be taped or photographed in this way. Second, I don’t know much about this case. What I’m curious about is, did they know that she was under age, or did they find out after they were sued?



I read some of the reports for some of the lawsuits. all of the ones I read, the girls were approached and asked to come to a motel room for pics. the girls told them they were underage; they were then offered money. the girls range in age from 15 - 17. some girls claim members of the camera crew tried to lift up their shirts even after they said no. there are also claims that they were given soda mixed with ghb, and given alcohol. all after disclosing they were minors. mr. gone wild himself asked underage girls to touch his dick in exchange for money.



puke puke

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 10, 2004 02:57 PM

If I ever become a serial killer, the guys who run that show are on my hit list, along with Howard Stern and Max Hardcore and many others.

gothicwolf

gothicwolf

United Kingdom
February 2004

MAR 10, 2004 02:58 PM

i'm just wondering, does america consider anyone under the age of 18 as minors or is it anyone under the age of 16. in england, your not allowed to take erotic pictures and sell them if the person is under 18, but the are only classed as minors if they are under 16. so if they are 16 or seventeen, it might still be illegal if they are fully nude but if they are not minors (older than 16), it is there bodies, and are free to do what they won't. but if they are under 16 then it is definatly wrong in my opinion.

edited for silly spelling mistakes

[Edited on Mar 10, 2004 by gothicwolf]

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 10, 2004 03:01 PM

I want to note that I don't think it is wrong to take pictures of consenting girls who are 16. However I think the issue of consent is a very unclear one, and I don't approve of the use of alcohol or coercion or pressure or whatever to push a young girl into flashing. I also think the fact that these videos exist at all the fact that women put up with the disrespect shown in them is a HUGE societal issue based in sexism and the exploitation of women.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

MAR 10, 2004 03:04 PM

Whoever brought up that point about sexual discrimination, I think that is very interesting. Although I don't think GGW is a healthy exploration of the human body, it is rather unfair for 16 year old boys to be able to go topless when and wherever but not 16 year old girls.

evilwillow

evilwillow

HOPEFUL

El Salvador

MAR 10, 2004 03:05 PM

Morgan said:
If I ever become a serial killer, the guys who run that show are on my hit list, along with Howard Stern and Max Hardcore and many others.




if you ever become a serial killer, I volunteer to be your sidekick and carry your weapons for you. then you could just call out "knife!" or "plastic bag!". it would be very efficient.
love

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

MAR 10, 2004 03:05 PM

SEXY and efficient! And we'd be doing such good for the world.

We should do a set with this theme!

evilwillow

evilwillow

HOPEFUL

El Salvador

MAR 10, 2004 03:25 PM

Morgan said:
SEXY and efficient! And we'd be doing such good for the world.

We should do a set with this theme!



that would be so awesome!

(would we really get to kill someone? biggrin tongue )

life_returns

life_returns

Oakland, CA
April 2003

MAR 10, 2004 04:41 PM

Morgan said:
If I ever become a serial killer, the guys who run that show are on my hit list, along with Howard Stern and Max Hardcore and many others.



yeah max hardcore is a fucking bastard.

Twwly

Twwly

SUICIDEGIRL

Ontario, Canada

MAR 10, 2004 04:51 PM

lil_tuffy said:
Anyway, there was nothing even remotely erotic in the whole video. It was just sad.

Lil_Tuffy




I couldn't agree more.

scottishrob

scottishrob

Olathe, KS
July 2003

MAR 10, 2004 05:28 PM

While I don't really know enough about Stern or "hardcore" guys I would help with the GGW smuck. I caught a thing on him a couple of months ago on VH1. He was a smuck to a lot of the girls he was around, including his "famous" friends. All and all I don't even get the draw of it. While I like boobs as much as the next person, I'm not into getting them flashed and thats it; even if they are bounced a few times. Just seems like a waste of time really.

When it comes to the age issue if a girl misrepresents herself and it seems logical (a 16 y/o saying they are 18) you really can't find too much fault the person who was lied to. However, cases of using chemicals to coerice is definatly wrong. Coerision aside I think personal responsibility should be taken for people and their action. It's not like even a 10 y/o doesn't have an idea of consiquences of their actions.

mQx

mqx

Seattle, WA
January 2003

MAR 10, 2004 06:08 PM

solecize said:
Did anyone stop to think that telling a female of any age that she CAN'T take off her top in public is sexual discrimination? So boys can run around with their shirts off and get rowdy, but women can't? There is no age limit (or any other limits) to showing man-boobs, you can even see them on broadcast T.V.



Actually, that's not entirely true. smile

On my favorite reality show of all time, Joe Schmoe, one of the actors was this fairly fat guy. At several points during the series when the guy was deshirted or topless they pixeled out his man boobs. Seriously. It was the dumb.

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

MAR 10, 2004 06:28 PM

lil_tuffy said:
Anyway, there was nothing even remotely erotic in the whole video. It was just sad.
Lil_Tuffy



well, they're not really marketed to the erotica conisseur so much as the LCD Pam Anderson crowd.

I've seen one of their DVDs.....ho-hum.

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