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RedBstrd

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA
April 2004

DEC 03, 2010 01:17 PM

Ridley said:
So basically what people are saying is that OP needs to do more research for articles then "I watched some popular recent movies/tv shows."

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Yep, but even more than that: the article was poorly researched, poorly written, and poorly edited.

I know I'm being hard on the OP in that evaluation, but that's the score. robot

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In all fairness to the OP, the blurb preceding the picture of Cherry and Tilly was actually well-written IMHO.



IDGAS

IDGAS

Jackson Heights, NY
March 2004

DEC 03, 2010 02:42 PM

RedBstrd said:

Saccora said:
If the sun doesn’t kill them, there is no way in hell a human is driving a *steak* through one of their hearts.



I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Culinary items - garlic in particular - has long been in the arsenal of the vampire hunter, but a cooked piece of beef is an unconventional weapon, to say the least.

The American Heart Association begs to differ tongue Waiting for plaque to build up and cause a heart attack is not as effective as the quick kill.

TheMadHatter23

TheMadHatter23

USA
September 2010

DEC 03, 2010 09:52 PM

Your preaching to the choir everywhere I look in ant modern fantasy story they portray all the mythological creatures incorectlymad

The_Darkness

The_Darkness

USA
December 2008

DEC 03, 2010 11:57 PM

Who ever wrote this needs to be punched in the head..

Weso

Weso

Santa Cruz, CA
July 2002

DEC 04, 2010 12:04 AM

Roethke said:

alyctes said:
It could be interesting to attempt a critical analysis of these stereotypes. My own take is that vampires are clearly analogues of the feudal aristocrat; zombies are related to the "Communist Hordes" of the Korean War and Vietnam; werewolves are related to unconventional sexuality. All are underpinned by notions of contagion, which seems essential to the horror genre.



Vampires are most commonly associated with sexuality--liquid, penetration, seduction, etc. The vampire archetype which is now considered canon was mostly invented during an era when talking about sexuality at all was taboo.

Zombies are a monster associated with voodoo and are from myths in West Africa which migrated to Haiti with the slave trade, and many early zombie movies revolve around black voodoo practitioners asserting power over white people, or about the strange evilness of non-Christian black people.

There are actually numerous critical analyses about monsters, and generally I find them pretty fascinating indeed.

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And also, this article is dumb.




I concur.

Snottlebocket

Snottlebocket

Netherlands
March 2004

DEC 04, 2010 05:54 AM

Hey Romero pretty much wrote the book on modern zombies and his zombies are getting smarter with every movie. It's actually part of his mythos.

druzhina

druzhina

United Kingdom
May 2008

DEC 04, 2010 06:16 AM

Popular myth tends to be cultural, which is something the OP needs to have addressed. There are many legends about the creatures written about in this article. If memory serves (that means I haven't looked it up) wasn't Stoker's Dracula a daywalker, albeit one whose powers were severely diminished in the sunlight?

Legends have Chinese vampires hopping like kangaroos! Good job Mrs Twilight didn't pick up on that for her smoulderingly good looking sparklepires.

The Voodoo/Hodun references regards Zombies from Haiti are true enough, the movie Serpant and the Rainbow was a very good rendition of that, and witchcraft in genereal.

I could ramble on...

edit: THe OP also reglected to mention the other Teen dream... The Vampire Diaries. Happily, unlike Twilight it seems, this book/TV series actually has characters that are evil. Plus it has the obligatory werewolves, witches, and now Dopplegangers. I like the show, I admit. Then again I loved Buffy the Vamp slayer too so my opnion cannot count for much wink

GreyMauser

GreyMauser

Auburn, WA
May 2007

DEC 04, 2010 07:58 AM

Many of the vampirelike creatures of folklore are not damaged by sunlight they just do not come out in the day because night is scary, or they are something else during the day, and remember Stoker's Dracula which is the archetype everyone thinks they are talking about when they discuss vampires was not harmed by daylight. Vampires and daylight is a movie convention that came later and weakened the monster. Because "night time is scary"

Also, remember that the majority of things that we think of as zombies would have been "vampires" in the original folk lore. Zombies are souless bodies controlled by a voodoo priest, not mindless shambling undead that are contagious.

Oh, and Romero never, never, never referred to them as zombies. He called them flesheaters. The title of the script was originally "Night of the Flesheaters" and he has always wondered why people started calling them zombies when zombies were a part of Caribbean voodoo belief systems and not plagues of the walking dead.

Whoever wrote the original article seems not to be familiar with the original folklore, just what he or she watched in film as a child and is now irritated that authors and filmakers are changing the rules he or she is familiar with.

hellboy7

hellboy7

Austin, TX
July 2004

DEC 04, 2010 11:48 AM

Ok, so far, this is all hollywood revisionism. meh. I don't mean to sound so cynical, but, what do you expect?

Literary canon is one thing. Movie canon is another. I can accept non-traditional archetypes if the author has done a good job of providing a well thought out foundation. Otherwise, if an author is making it up as they go along, then never mind. With Hollywood, it's kind of expected these days for movies to bend the rules/walk over the grave of literary canon for sensational attention. When you run across a director or screenwriter who takes an original literary concept and adapts it with a thorough understanding of the mythos or created canon, then you have something I'll watch.

Roethke is right about monsters/myth critical analysis. There are so many movies and some books that are lacking because historical, cultural and societal context is missing from the foundation. Sometimes, that little bit of research can make what was a mediocre story into something worth reading or watching.

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