drainaudio said:

My question to everyone else is what has happened to the "stomper"?
My experience of the US (where I've travelled extensively, worked and lived) is that you can almost get arrested for looking the wrong way - here is a guy caught on video clearly assaulting another individual, yet I can't seem to find any info on his subsequent arrest??

Charged with fourth degree assault.

Link

Totally missed your next post. Whoops.

MissyMalice

USA

May 2010

OCT 30, 2010 08:53 PM

first: yes, this is absolutely horrible.

second: i fee like a bad person, because i thought of this:

(about 1:20 in)

also....

i like how the people defending the idiot who physically assaulted a woman are ignoring the fact that the part everyone is pissed off about happened after she was already subdued and was not resisting. i can definitely see a rationalization for subduing her. that's fine. they couldn't have known for sure what she was planning to do. but she was already on the ground when he stomped on her.

this guy just screams "wife beater."

MissyMalice

USA

May 2010

OCT 30, 2010 08:59 PM

i also have to agree with whoever it was that said the 1st amendment rights issue is a bit irrelevant in this issue. we're talking about a woman being assaulted by a man twice her size. he did something illegal, and we end up in a discussion about whether or not she was in the right? i'm sorry but that's ridiculous.

Ridley

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

OCT 30, 2010 09:14 PM

strider57 said:

motorfirebox said:

strider57 said:
What Ms. Valle did was stupid and dangerous, she could have found herself shot dead for making a threating lunge at Rand. All in all, she got just exactly what she wanted, she created a scene which has drawn the ire of a lot of people who THINK she's some kind of innocent victim, when the truth is she is just another misguided nut case.

A "threatening lunge"? Are you serious? Did you actually watch the video?

The rest of your argument is completely fucking ridiculous. Yes, Valle absolutely was there to cause a scene--by presenting Rand with a fake award. That's the scene she was trying to create. To suggest that this was in some way asking to get knocked to the ground and physically abused is horseshit.

And you know what? Fine, let's pretend Valle actually was there with the intention of provoking a physical altercation. It's pretty god damn telling that all she had to do was approach the candidate to trigger that response.

Yeah, I watched the video and what I saw was a woman who purposely disguised herself in an attempt to blend into the crowd, so she could get close enough to her political opponent to commit an overt act upon him. Who's to say she might not having been carrying a bomb? Who among the crowd could have known her actual intentions, at the moment she lunged at Mr. Rand? These are dangerous times my friend with a world full of crazies, and Ms. Valle is one of those crazies!! How long do you think it will be before Ms.Valle realizes that the sophomoric antics of moveon.org aren't gaining any traction with the American public? What do you suppose she will do then, given her track record? How will she react when that realization finally hits home? Do you suppose she will just fold her tents and settle into a quite life in suburbia? OR, do you think she has the potential to take it to the next level? What if the next time we hear about Ms Valle it will be because she strapped a bomb to her chest and lunged for the President? Will you still feel sympathy for her then?

So she should have been subdued (which she was) and arrested. The end. But no, she was stomped on after already being taken to the ground. That's where it becomes unacceptable.

There's a lot of "what ifs" in your postings that have nothing to do with what actually happened. You can't speculate like that to justify someone kicking someone when they are already down.

And who cares about sympathy? So what if she wanted a scene? This is not acceptable behavior. Period.

leavemehere

San Diego, CA

December 2002

OCT 30, 2010 11:02 PM

I do agree it was totally wrong for him to do that. Just curious, the article stated he repeatedly stomped on her head, I only caught one stomp in that video, is there more to that video? Must have been a mild concussion, otherwise she would have gone straight to the hospital instead of getting back in front of the camera. Isn't your health more important than politics?

One more reason in my long list of reasons why I avoid politics as much as possible. It makes people crazy.

JeremyDean

Escondido, CA

July 2009

OCT 31, 2010 01:33 AM

strider57 said:
Before you get too worked up, Lauren Valle is no stranger to controversy and anything but an innocent victim. She was in fact a PAID employee of moveon.org at the Rand debate specifically there for the purpose of creating an incident!!

Ms. Valle is already facing felony charges after being arrested in May along with six others in Louisiana for her antics in a Greenpeace activism stunt. The group of activists had already been repeatedly warned by law enforcement to stay away from the area, after being spotted in the area the week leading up to the incident. The incident was serious enough that it drew the attention of the New Orleans Joint Terrorism Taskforce, which also reviewed the case.

Such shenanigans are something we often like to refer to as “media bait.” In a similar stunt, Valle and four other protesters were arrested and detained in China in August of 2008 after illegally hoisting a banner just outside the National Stadium (the “Bird’s Nest”) in Beijing’s Olympic Park. Progressives praised the action as part of a carefully coordinated effort amongst multiple activists organizing from multiple locations.

In April of 2008, Valle was also arrested after chaining herself to Citibank’s headquarters building in New York as part of a protest related the RainForest Action Network’s “dirtymoney.org” campaign. Dressed in costume as a “Billionaire for Dirty Energy”, Valle demanded with others that Citibank shift away from its large-scale investments in coal-fired power plants.

Valle told WDRB at Monday’s incident, “We’re here to present Rand Paul with the ‘Employee of the Month’ award. However, his supporters were not very nice to me and my message, which is the same as everyone else — just wanted to get out here with a sign,” Valle of East Falmouth, Massachusetts, told WDRB. “I got my head stepped on, so I have a bit of a headache.”

Given her past record of showing up at protests and getting arrested, one could easily speculate that Ms. Valle had no intention of leaving Monday’s event without the occurrence of a public spectacle of some sort.

What Ms. Valle did was stupid and dangerous, she could have found herself shot dead for making a threating lunge at Rand. All in all, she got just exactly what she wanted, she created a scene which has drawn the ire of a lot of people who THINK she's some kind of innocent victim, when the truth is she is just another misguided nut case.

So kids...remember, it's okay to give someone a concussion from a beating, if it will put a stop to their silly antics. (Just clarifying, since Strider57 left that part out in his diatribe--fixed.)

Duly noted; I'll get my boots and be right there.

Mantis

SUICIDEGIRL

Texas, USA

OCT 31, 2010 02:05 AM

Victim blaming is gross.

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA

April 2004

OCT 31, 2010 03:18 AM

tree11 said:
Oh Great...even my Suicide Girls have to go political...damn, no escaping it. There goes my future membership. There's disgusting stuff in politics that happen on both sides...like whats new. Every Republican that goes too far, I can show you a Democrat to match. Just hoping that this site would stay away from politics.

Yeah, it is disgusting that the women on this site have political opinions - and that they are uppity enough to voice them! If only there were other sites on the internet where someone could see women naked and not have to hear them comment on matters of of clear irrelevance to their lives. I mean, violence towards women? How's that supposed to have anything to do with them? What's next? Maybe those broads will start voicing opinions on abortion or something else completely out of touch with their own interests...

Sarcasm aside, you chose to join a site well known to be liberal and one in which much of the appeal is the fact that the models are real people with their own thoughts and personalities, rather than an impersonal naked object. Either own up to that and put your big boy pants on, or move along.

RedBstrd

Riverside, CA

April 2004

OCT 31, 2010 03:24 AM

Spore0 said:
This is what happens when kittens try to play with dogs...

So strider57 voices his opinion on the matter and everyone is all over him like red on a rash about how wrong he is. Yet while beating him down your defence for her is that she was only expressing her constitutional right to voice her opinion... Oh but it's different because it was physical.

You're all a bunch of fucktards.

Please save your $4 a month and invest in a community college or something. If civilization falls because of the stupidity of a single man's comments, they will undoubtedly be yours.

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

OCT 31, 2010 07:29 AM

leavemehere said:Must have been a mild concussion, otherwise she would have gone straight to the hospital instead of getting back in front of the camera. Isn't your health more important than politics?

Don't quote me on this, but I think I had read somewhere that she had felt okay after, but then felt sick later and got checked out.

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

OCT 31, 2010 07:30 AM

RedBstrd said:
If civilization falls because of the stupidity of a single man's comments, they will undoubtedly be yours.

This might be the best insult I've read in a long time.

Cash

USA

OLD SKOOL

OCT 31, 2010 08:19 AM

leavemehere said:
Just curious, the article stated he repeatedly stomped on her head, I only caught one stomp in that video, is there more to that video? Must have been a mild concussion, otherwise she would have gone straight to the hospital instead of getting back in front of the camera. Isn't your health more important than politics?

First...there were two clear foot-stomps

second...Have you ever had a concussion? I have. Head injuries do not always present themselves immediately. It can take several minutes before the injured person realizes that they are in trouble.

I once got a concussion playing a game of pickup football. I walked all the way home only thinking I'd gotten my bell rung. When my parents saw me at the door.....they asked me what the hell happened to me. I had no idea what had happened to me.

betterthantv

Conyers, GA

March 2008

OCT 31, 2010 09:42 AM

tadkil said:

betterthantv said:

Yeah, this is getting scary. I'm used to the liberal nutjobs in the groups, but now SG has paid moveon people at rally's? The day I find out SG is linked to Soros, I'm outta here.

Well, I think Missy and Sean have been fairly transparent in what they believe. As our conservative supreme court has defined money as speech, I am not surprised that they might choose to speak in that way.

As someone who professes a conservative ideology, I'm surprised you choose engagement in a community like this. Granted, it is a place where there are many liberal people. Because of that it's a place where you can experience the oppression of the liberal elite that is part and parcel of the Tea Party agenda. When you say things that would be acceptable to your conservative peer group, like "Bimbo" and "Soros money" you do make people respond to you in a negative way and get mad. I suppose the replay earns you street cred with the local rod and gun club.

Of course, the thing you really have to reconcile for yourself is this. Is your membership in this community something you can justify to your conservative peer group. Is a place where woman choose to express themselves on their own terms through the unrestrained expression of their sexuality a place you should be? Do you think you could bring this up at a Tea Party meeting, A Beck rally, or to your pastor and have the people you were speaking to respond in a positive way?

So, why are you here? What's the gain?

Believe it or not I have a couple like minded conservative souls on this site. And the women are great for the most part. I've found that even though 99% of them are liberal, they can still see the other side and think for themselves. Are you suggesting that NO conservative should be allowed on this site? Boy you lefties sure are all inclusive aren't you? I love the girls here and am not ashamed of my membership no matter what groups I'm talking to. I've actually brought this site up in many of my 9-12 Groups and Tea Parties. Besides it's kinda fun pissing off the liberal shit talkers in here.

I do agree about the bimbo comment. That was wrong on my part. Frustration overflow I suppose. So many in here miss the entire point of this story. I agree with firebox that it is NEVER ok for a man to hit a woman. The guy is a douchebag. But this woman set out for this to happen. She's no better than the idiot that stomped on her.