MrCrisp said:
Also, in the same article where you pled for carnivores to be respectful of vegans, you consistently insinuated that meat-eaters are rude, stinky people with filthy secretions. Sticking the argument that some people take their diet extremely seriously, to the point where they will reject potential partners because of their diets (regardless of any other redeeming qualities), in the middle of that doesn't help.

And if people are at the point where they're treating their diet like a religion, they may have larger problems than meat mouth.

Womp womp womp... looks like someone got a little bit defensive. I don't think I implied anything about ALL meat eaters, but I have been on multiple dates with meat eaters and have seen the spectrum. I've also slept with a few and I've seen THAT spectrum, too. I definitely disclaimed that this was my personal experience.

Pointing out your faulty, unsubstantiated, and hypocritical generalization is being defense? Okay.

Also, veganism isn't just a diet. It's not just about health. It's a lifestyle - a life philosophy. Doesn't sound like a far cry from a religion to me.

Now who's being defensive?

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

OCT 07, 2010 08:43 AM

I think all of these things are common sense - vegan or otherwise.

I have a nut allergy -- I surely don't want my date eating peanuts before they kiss me.

My diet is pretty much the opposite of vegan and I face the same sort of disbelief and scrutiny on a daily basis -- possibly even more so due to the fact that I don't have a moral, ethical or health motivation -- I simply hate the taste and texture of almost all fruits and vegetables. I wish I liked fruits and veggies but I don't. It's been 30+ years. It's not a phase. Yes, I know I will probably die of colon cancer. Help yourself to my salad, I don't want it to go to waste.

As far as taste and sexuality goes... the rational behind this kinda makes sense but I've never had anyone complain that I have a distinctive taste or smell, whether it be good or bad, or that it's burny or whatever. But, I've had my fair share of evenings with folks (vegan and otherwise) after a heaping intake of garlic or cabbage and it was difficult sharing the same room, let alone the same bed.

Anyway... back to my original point. I think these are all good points regardless of your diet, lifestyle, political affiliation or star sign.

Lemonkid

Canada

May 2003

OCT 07, 2010 08:46 AM

Malloreigh said:

Also, veganism isn't just a diet. It's not just about health. It's a lifestyle - a life philosophy. Doesn't sound like a far cry from a religion to me.

lil_tuffy said:
I simply hate the taste and texture of almost all fruits and vegetables.

I just thought this way great, haha.

goldintheair

United Kingdom

October 2010

OCT 08, 2010 09:41 AM

Hey there, new to SG
I have to say, I'm a totally non-confrontational vegetarian. I don't refer to it, I don't mention it, I don't bring it up at all. I have never a single time in my life said "EW CARCASS!" or anything like that. Yet every group dinner I go to, at least one person dangles a steak in my face and says "ooooh blooood" or something of the like. The other week my brother in law did this over a family dinner. A good friend of mine told me off because I wouldn't eat dip at a party that someone had dipped something bacon-y in (he had noticed that I wasn't eating it - I hadn't said a word).

These are not otherwise irrational people. These are well-educated, well-travelled, worldly individuals.

What usually happens next is, while I'm eating, "soo WHY are you vegetarian" and I say it's a personal choice and make it clear I'd like to leave it at that. Then they grill me (pun!) about it and I eventually give the reasons. Then I get called a preachy vegetarian!

I also have travelled extensively and yes this makes it difficult, but I don't make a stink about it and find ways around it. I have had to turn down hospitality in Spain because of my beliefs, but always politely and graciously and nobody has ever been offended - only apologetic they couldn't offer me food I could eat.

Point of this diatribe: there are ignorant, preachy vegetarians (though I've only ever met 1) and there are ignorant, preachy meat-eaters. I don't particularly like either.

Annisa

SUICIDEGIRL

Michigan, USA

NOV 15, 2010 10:06 AM

I actually just did quite a bit of traveling..with a vegan baby. Me and her father were in very un veggie friendly areas, but I loved it because we ended up finding places that were not as popular and touristy. I can find something to eat pretty much anywhere and as someone who loves food as much as I do..I think it is kind of lame to not want to travel with someone because they can't share your ice cream.

I have a baby with a non vegan and it poses no issues whatsover. I think a good relationship is all about respect..he loves my cooking, but if he goes out and has a burger I don't get on his case or anything. He does agree with my reasons for being vegan so that probably helps..he tries to eat it as little as possible, but that is for him..not me.

Annisa

SUICIDEGIRL

Michigan, USA

NOV 15, 2010 10:10 AM

Also...I agree with the steak in my face jokes..I am not offended, it's just lame and not funny. I don't know..when people do that shit it screams white trash..not eating meat isn't that big of a deal. Get over it and let me eat.

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PointBlank

New York, NY

November 2004

OCT 06, 2010 11:21 AM

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August 2004

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