I value people's opinions on this site. The whole membership charge adds a comfortable sense of finity!! I have a situation:

I joined this site not strictly for pornographic reasons as I'm sure some have. I have also NOT joined it for the purposes of ....*Ahem*.... "hooking up*... I'm sure the ladies get harassed enough....

I actually see a beauty in all the girls on this site. It's comforting... for my past 16 or so years of brainwashing are being undone. A REAL beauty... not a word meant to replace 'HOT'. Given a.... void, of sorts, where there was once MUCH beauty.... I figure I use this site as part of an attempt to fill that void. Now I hear talk of that 'burlesque show'.... my boy told me of it..... YAH! Sounds like fun, eh??

However, I wonder if it is crossing a line. I have seen the videos of the last tour. And it depresses me. I see perverts and drunken jocks the type of what you'd see on 'Girls Gone Wild' tapes..... although I am probably being presumptuous. It seems as though the women become nothing more than objects. No beauty involved. And that saddens me. I apologize if any of you ladies are offended. I find objectifying of that sort disgusting. I think that if I went to have fun with my boy and see that same beauty firsthand, I would just end up feeling really bad.... like the ladies are being taken advantage of.

I'm not trying to milk people for comforting sympathy..... i need feedback. I respect your opinions. Thank you for reading.

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 07:50 PM

Krakshot said:
I have seen the videos of the last tour.

This is the very first SG Burlesque tour and no videos yet exist. Also, I don't know what you're asking. If you want to know if I find drunken assholes screaming "show us yer tits" annoying, yes, I do.

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 07:53 PM

There was a video of a first anniversary show. It involved girls stripping and touching themselves. Drunken college guys hooting and hollering. And a clip of Anais as the end. Ahh. Anais. The question is, is it, in your opinion, crossing a line from PREVERTED admiratrion to PERVERTED oogling and drooling over young women, while not even seeing them as people??

null

I'm lost

November 2002

JAN 13, 2004 07:54 PM

I have the strangest urge to listen to Dashboard Confessional while wearing some clunky black plastic glasses.

CatBoner

Ventura, CA

August 2002

JAN 13, 2004 07:56 PM

if drunken guys oggling girls bothers you, maybe it wouldn't be the best of events to attend, though it will probably be easy enough to ignore if you do go, since a lot of the members seem like they're not quite the type to be doing that.

as for feeling bad for the girls, realize that they're performers. they probably took into account that drunken guys oggling them is a strong possiblity and have prepared themselves for it, and probably don't notice it, or at least know how to ignore it. they're not being taken advantage of any more than when they put naked pictures of themselves on the internet, not to say that they were to begin with.

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 07:58 PM

ARGH!!!! ARGH!!! BLACK EMO FRAME GLASSES!!!!! AHHHH!!! AHHHH!!!! AHHHH!!!! AHHHHH!!! AHHHHH!!!!

*BBBBBBBBBBBBZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!*

[SHAVES LINE IN HEAD LIKE ASIAN MAN WITH THUMB-PENIS]

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 08:03 PM

Krakshot said:
There was a video of a first anniversary show. It involved girls stripping and touching themselves. Drunken college guys hooting and hollering. And a clip of Anais as the end. Ahh. Anais. The question is, is it, in your opinion, crossing a line from PREVERTED admiratrion to PERVERTED oogling and drooling over young women, while not even seeing them as people??

By definition burlesque is stripping. If you find strip tease distasteful you certainly won't want to attend any of the stops of the SG Burlesque tour. I watched the anniversary party video and I heard plenty of applause and cheering, just like going to see any band that inspires the crowd to have a good time. I didn't get a chance to see much of the individuals in the crowd, but I'm sure they were all (or very nearly all) members of the site. If you find the members of the site in poor taste perhaps you would do well to avoid SG altogether.

max_beta

I'm lost

October 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:04 PM

Women are beautiful and I'm so smart and advanced as a person that I've evolved beyond primitive sexual uges.

Women are beautiful pristine creatures, who should never be looked at as sexual objects and should always be appreciated for their incredible beauty.

yeah, pull the other one...

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 08:04 PM

Also, were you attempting to make up a new word with "preverted" or was that just a typo?

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 08:06 PM

....... sensing for sarcasm.......

Why would I EVER have any reason to find the members of this site in poor taste??

So max..... those are BASIC primitive sexual urges??

max_beta

I'm lost

October 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:09 PM

You should go out clubbing with this guy.

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 08:12 PM

*ahem*... why don't you fucking go clubbing with COLIN Farrell... I'm sure you'd quite fucking get along. He's a drunk, no doubt a druggie, he's a lying womanizer.... and maybe... if you're lucky... HE BEATS WOMEN TOO!!!! Yah! Hands up for all that fun shit!!!

AND DON'T FUCKING LECTURE ME ON BASIC SEXUAL URGES, BRO. BY THAT RATIONALE, HOMOPHOBIA IS HUMAN NATURE... FOR I WAS ONCE HARDCORE HOMOPHOBIC...... AND I NEVER SAID I WAS BETTER THAN YOU.... SPERM-BLOSSOM....

[Edited on Jan 13, 2004 by Krakshot]

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 08:16 PM

Krakshot said:
Why would I EVER have any reason to find the members of this site in poor taste??

I find it extremely difficult to understand what you're saying in just about all of your posts, so I apologise if I've misunderstood you. You said that you watched the anniversary party video and you saw stripping and "perverts and drunken jocks the type of what you'd see on 'Girls Gone Wild' tapes," which you seem to find extremely distasteful. I then explained to you that the audience in the video was made up of SG members. Therefore, if the (audience = members) and (audience = tasteless perverts) then (members = tasteless perverts). See?

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 08:18 PM

Additionally, you need to read this, badly: http://suicidegirls.com/help/#faq9.2 and http://suicidegirls.com/boards/The+Site/31266/

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 08:19 PM

I was implying something about the people who give me shit for opening my mouth and expressing ideas... as max_beta has..... sorry.... it is hard to convey sarcasm....... but you are being very tolerant and open-minded... thank you..

LeGuerrier

Saint Pierre And Miquelon

July 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:20 PM

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 08:23 PM

I don't get it... what is the point of reading those?? Sorry, I just skimmed... please summarize....

legionnaire

Belgium

November 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:25 PM

Clara said:

Krakshot said:
Why would I EVER have any reason to find the members of this site in poor taste??

Nice usage of the transitive property of equality. And everyone always thought there was no use for geometric proofs in the real world!

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 08:33 PM

Krakshot said:
I don't get it... what is the point of reading those?? Sorry, I just skimmed... please summarize....

You said the following:

In another thread you called me a "self-righteous little fucker" because I suggested that you were overly worked up about the "evil" nature of Brody Dalle. Please calm down and refrain from personally insulting the members of SG. Otherwise you may find you've lost your right to make posts of any kind.

Krakshot

Chicago, IL

January 2004

JAN 13, 2004 08:36 PM

Well.... they show up... they make posts with the intent of insulting me.... should I be more subtle???? Have you read some of this stuff??? I think they mean along the lines of one-sided harassment... not arguements...

I SHOULD ASK THEM......

[Edited on Jan 13, 2004 by Krakshot]

schoolgirl

Christmas Island

May 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:37 PM

I think he was trying to express that the gals here are portrayed with more class and he hates the "girls gone wild" type of entertainment. it's disappointing and unappealing. but that's just my stretch of an interpretation.

Flux

SUICIDEGIRL

Georgia, USA

JAN 13, 2004 08:39 PM

you know, every time i see a woman complain about women being comfortably overtly sexual in front of men as objectification, i wonder when the last time she got a good, pounding bladder-infection-inducing session of animal sex from a guy who doesn't cry about how pretty her titties are. poor little thing.

you want to see women being taken advantage of, go to fucking child prostitution rings. don't bring that shit up about women allowing themselves to be appreciated as women. ugh.

also, i am writing this assuming you are female due to tone, but your profile says you're male. sharing an account? you really DO need to check out those links.

actually, if you are a guy and just the angry, sensitive type, then maybe you need to find a woman who knows exactly what's between her legs and how to use it. damn.

[Edited on Jan 13, 2004 by Flux]

clara

MODERATOR

Baltimore, MD

JAN 13, 2004 08:41 PM

This is clipped from the "read this first" thread in the Current Events board, but I think you haven't yet seen it.

Do not, EVER, personally insult someone, even if they did it to you first. Attack ideas, not people. You can be removed from the community if you are observed doing this by a moderator. Here's a handy guide to avoiding personal attacks:

BAD:
You are racist and obviously cannot grasp even the most basic information.

BETTER:
I find your ideas disturbing. Here is a link to some information that backs up my point on this issue.

digitusboy

I'm lost

December 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:41 PM

ummmmm...dude, the year is 2004

LOL!...flux...you fuckin rock! i wish you'd come to LA so i can take pics of you in a photo shoot. and no, i don't work at GGW...

[Edited on Jan 13, 2004 by digitusboy]

rskapcat74529

I'm lost

December 2003

JAN 13, 2004 08:49 PM

Flux said:

...fluxian brilliance...

I want to have your babies, and I don't even like children.

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