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rudewordsmith

rudewordsmith

Orlando, FL
August 2008

OCT 18, 2008 12:53 AM

So you have these vampires who, let's say, "turned" in the victorian era. Alright. Cool. Why is it in (virtually) every vampire movie set in modern times, the lead vampire is into music like Slayer or Disturbed?

You mean to tell me that these guys have been alive for centuries, probably saw Mozart or Brahms live, have witnessed every genre of music come and go -- and the best they settle for is lazy, generic Metal? They don't even listen to that awesome shit coming out of the Netherlands!

Much in the same vein, why do Zombie movies have Hard Rock soundtracks? The two don't work together, man!

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

I'm lost
January 2006

OCT 18, 2008 12:56 AM

rudewordsmith said:
So you have these vampires who, let's say, "turned" in the victorian era. Alright. Cool. Why is it in (virtually) every vampire movie set in modern times, the lead vampire is into music like Slayer or Disturbed?

You mean to tell me that these guys have been alive for centuries, probably saw Mozart or Brahms live, have witnessed every genre of music come and go -- and the best they settle for is lazy, generic Metal?



I've made this same argument many a time myself.

malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

OCT 18, 2008 01:12 AM

You can't tell me the lounge version of Disturbed's "Down With the Sickness" in the Dawn of the Dead remake is anything other awesome.

The movie itself is in every other way inferior to Romero's original, of course.

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

OCT 18, 2008 01:16 AM

'cause Slayer rules.

duh.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

I'm lost
January 2006

OCT 18, 2008 01:32 AM

malkav11 said:
You can't tell me the lounge version of Disturbed's "Down With the Sickness" in the Dawn of the Dead remake is anything other awesome.



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bendingunit23

bendingunit23

Canada
April 2005

OCT 18, 2008 07:31 AM

rudewordsmith said:

Much in the same vein, why do Zombie movies have Hard Rock soundtracks? The two don't work together, man!




I object your honor

lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

OCT 18, 2008 09:18 AM

malkav11 said:
You can't tell me the lounge version of Disturbed's "Down With the Sickness" in the Dawn of the Dead remake is anything other awesome.

The movie itself is in every other way inferior to Romero's original, of course.



Richard Cheese and Lounge Against the Machine.

Kleio

Kleio

Winona, MN
January 2006

OCT 18, 2008 09:27 AM

rudewordsmith said:
Much in the same vein, why do Zombie movies have Hard Rock soundtracks? The two don't work together, man!



Sometimes they work.

trocc

trocc

Chicago, IL
March 2003

OCT 18, 2008 09:27 AM

i do see the point you're getting at - but really, Slayer doesn't deserve to be lumped together with a garbage band like Disturbed. wink

cyanide81

cyanide81

USA
August 2002

OCT 18, 2008 10:27 PM

bendingunit23 said:

rudewordsmith said:

Much in the same vein, why do Zombie movies have Hard Rock soundtracks? The two don't work together, man!




I object your honor



greatest zombie / music mashup EVER

Phantasy

Phantasy

Australia
October 2005

OCT 19, 2008 12:12 AM

cyanide81 said:

bendingunit23 said:

rudewordsmith said:

Much in the same vein, why do Zombie movies have Hard Rock soundtracks? The two don't work together, man!




I object your honor



greatest zombie / music mashup EVER



I agree. I think this is also possibly my favourite scene in any movie, ever.

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

OCT 19, 2008 01:01 AM

RudieCantFail said:

malkav11 said:
You can't tell me the lounge version of Disturbed's "Down With the Sickness" in the Dawn of the Dead remake is anything other awesome.



zoom image



RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

I'm lost
January 2006

OCT 19, 2008 01:11 AM

scylis said:

RudieCantFail said:

malkav11 said:
You can't tell me the lounge version of Disturbed's "Down With the Sickness" in the Dawn of the Dead remake is anything other awesome.



zoom image





scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

OCT 19, 2008 01:24 AM

you're on notice.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

I'm lost
January 2006

OCT 19, 2008 01:29 AM

scylis said:
you're on notice.



bendingunit23

bendingunit23

Canada
April 2005

OCT 19, 2008 08:29 AM

RudieCantFail said:

scylis said:
you're on notice.





Yes, yes there are four lights, can we get back to the rock music complaint.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

OCT 19, 2008 05:40 PM

Which movies are these that you're talking about? I guess I haven't been keeping up with vampire movies but I can't think of any where the vampires are into nu-metal.

fountainofdreams

fountainofdreams

Batavia, IL
January 2005

OCT 19, 2008 06:06 PM

Thistle said:
Which movies are these that you're talking about? I guess I haven't been keeping up with vampire movies but I can't think of any where the vampires are into nu-metal.



Probably referring to Underworld, Queen of the Damned, etc.

bean

bean

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

OCT 19, 2008 06:16 PM

dkmfc said:
wait...didn't the hunger have bauhaus?



Yeah. But they were new wave vampires. Victorian vampires like metal. Duh. wink

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

OCT 19, 2008 06:18 PM

you know, it's only a movie...

Mythos_

Mythos_

Germany
March 2008

OCT 19, 2008 06:24 PM

I think Dracula in Blade 3 was totally NOT into hard rock/metal/goth.

About the Zombies:

Zombie Mythos likes!!!

Accuser

Accuser

Dana Point, CA
October 2006

OCT 19, 2008 06:48 PM

fountainofdreams said:

Thistle said:
Which movies are these that you're talking about? I guess I haven't been keeping up with vampire movies but I can't think of any where the vampires are into nu-metal.



Probably referring to Underworld, Queen of the Damned, etc.



Queen of the Damned, sure, but that's specifically from the novel- he liked being a rock star. I don't think the type of music mattered.

I can't think of an instance where any vampire in Underworld claims to like any type of music, or is shown listening to it. It's in the soundtrack, sure, but that's not the same.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

I'm lost
January 2006

OCT 19, 2008 07:12 PM

Accuser said:

fountainofdreams said:

Thistle said:
Which movies are these that you're talking about? I guess I haven't been keeping up with vampire movies but I can't think of any where the vampires are into nu-metal.



Probably referring to Underworld, Queen of the Damned, etc.



Queen of the Damned, sure, but that's specifically from the novel- he liked being a rock star. I don't think the type of music mattered.

I can't think of an instance where any vampire in Underworld claims to like any type of music, or is shown listening to it. It's in the soundtrack, sure, but that's not the same.



You have to also take into account the dress of the vampires; often times leather/vinyl S&M - looking gear that lends to the impression of the associated music, whether it's just the soundtrack or the vampire's explicit stated taste.

The overall impression just isn't one of sophistication and refinement that you would expect from a centuries-old being.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

OCT 19, 2008 09:05 PM

I think they are just keeping up with modern trends ....like any one else, except they can live the part a little more ....

motorfirebox

motorfirebox

Pittsburgh, PA
March 2004

OCT 20, 2008 12:02 PM

RudieCantFail said:
The overall impression just isn't one of sophistication and refinement that you would expect from a centuries-old being.


if you'll pardon me while i geek out: i think it's feasible to imagine that long-lived beings (vampires, or elves, or head-cutter-offers, or whatever) wouldn't actually be able to survive for centuries if they weren't, in general, always looking forward for the next new trend. a strong sense of nostalgia and distaste for new things might not serve an immortal being very well--they'd quite possibly bore themselves to death, committing suicide out of despondency because the world has changed beyond their ability to interact with it or even recognize it.

it's also worth questioning where the idea comes from, that age brings sophistication and refinement. if a person could continue fucking and partying and having energetic fun forever, would sophistication and refinement ever come to them? or does an aging human's growing physical and mental frailty impart a level of social conservatism that they wouldn't otherwise drift towards?

TLDR version: read Schismatrix Plus by Bruce Sterling.

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