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Drake

Drake

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 18, 2008 11:37 PM

I went to art college! It was the best thing ever. I majored in illustration though, so I got a degree in design rather than fine arts. There is a world of difference. Designers are a whole different class of snob.

Roethke

Roethke

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 19, 2008 12:05 PM

This thread is priceless for the nitpicking about specific levels of pretentious douchebaggery.

"I may have been a pretentious such-and-such, but the so-and-sos are the real douchebags! Them and their dumb accessorizing with fill-in-the-blanks!"

Rusty_metal_ass

Rusty_metal_ass

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 19, 2008 12:08 PM

Everyone is a douchebag in their own, special way. Some just deny it more than others. They are the douchiest.

Hinata

Hinata

Australia
November 2005

JUL 19, 2008 06:28 PM

Shiny_metal_ass said:
Everyone is a douchebag in their own, special way. Some just deny it more than others. They are the douchiest.



Haha...here, here!

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUL 19, 2008 06:30 PM

Roethke said:
This thread is priceless for the nitpicking about specific levels of pretentious douchebaggery.

"I may have been a pretentious such-and-such, but the so-and-sos are the real douchebags! Them and their dumb accessorizing with fill-in-the-blanks!"



and that, to me, was the essence of multi-discipline art school experience!

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 20, 2008 12:00 PM

I went to a public university with a huge engineering department and a tiny, poorly funded art department. Every single person at my school was a total douchebag and we didn't even have Greek organizations or a football team.

Man I hated college.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JUL 20, 2008 12:08 PM

Thistle said:
I went to a public university with a huge engineering department and a tiny, poorly funded art department. Every single person at my school was a total douchebag and we didn't even have Greek organizations or a football team.

Man I hated college.



No Greeks? No football? I'm envious.

Thistle

Thistle

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 20, 2008 12:14 PM

coyotemike said:

Thistle said:
I went to a public university with a huge engineering department and a tiny, poorly funded art department. Every single person at my school was a total douchebag and we didn't even have Greek organizations or a football team.

Man I hated college.



No Greeks? No football? I'm envious.



There was an African American fraternity and Asian American fraternity and sorority. No football. Fiat Slug.

attn_ho

attn_ho

Brooklyn, NY
February 2004

JUL 20, 2008 12:18 PM

coyotemike said:

Thistle said:
I went to a public university with a huge engineering department and a tiny, poorly funded art department. Every single person at my school was a total douchebag and we didn't even have Greek organizations or a football team.

Man I hated college.



No Greeks? No football? I'm envious.



this was actually part of RISD or NYU Tiche's application package, hyping their lack of football and greeks.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JUL 20, 2008 12:33 PM

attn_ho said:

coyotemike said:

Thistle said:
I went to a public university with a huge engineering department and a tiny, poorly funded art department. Every single person at my school was a total douchebag and we didn't even have Greek organizations or a football team.

Man I hated college.



No Greeks? No football? I'm envious.



this was actually part of RISD or NYU Tiche's application package, hyping their lack of football and greeks.



Maybe I should have headed east for school frown

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 20, 2008 02:52 PM

Shalome said:

CharlieLove said:

bean said:

Shalome said:

attn_ho said:
whereas art-school students, or Art-Fags (regardless of preference)
...
quietly smoking while wearing way too much black clothing.




*looks at head-to-toe black clothing*
*looks at vanilla cloves in purse*


... shit.


Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaah....

*shuffles feet*



You kidding me? You two didn't know? Thats like saying you don't know if you have a face, guys.



Well, I guess being mistaken for an art school student is marginally better than being mistaken for goth. Heh.


::edit:: Oh goddammit, I'm wearing a Siouxsie and the Banshees shirt today. My sense of stereotypes is all sorts of fucked up today.

I AM ROLLING MY EYES AT MYSELF. whatever



heh ...yeah I hate being stereotyped as Goth...but maybe I should stop wearing all black and T-shirts with skulls....

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 20, 2008 03:02 PM

Roethke said:
This thread is priceless for the nitpicking about specific levels of pretentious douchebaggery.

"I may have been a pretentious such-and-such, but the so-and-sos are the real douchebags! Them and their dumb accessorizing with fill-in-the-blanks!"



I think im definitely a pretentious douche ...I am always trying to explain to people at work why the movies put on Criterion are so important,as well as hopelessly trying to explain what the filmmaker was trying to say in a movie like "SALO 120 Days of Sodom." One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good. I did one piece which was vey abstract and represented what I saw when having sex.I really just sorta made up the theme ...or description of the painting as I walked into class.I was hailed as really breaking the boundary of my previous work which had before been seen as cliche and misogynistic.I have to say I do enjoy some parts and am completely baffled when nobody in my class has anything to say.Im still debating whether I actually want to say as I have thought of taking up the more cliche route of an L.A resident "ACTING"....I think I will be good at this considering the practice I have been doing in art school.

Shalome

Shalome

MODERATOR

Los Angeles, CA

JUL 20, 2008 03:42 PM

CheshireCat said:
One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good.



Once during a critique (our critiques were sometimes particularly brutal, as much about our personal lives as about the work we were doing, and requiring lots of bullshit verbal presentation of your work) with the grads (oooh, pretentious me, mentioning that I was promoted to painting with the grads while an undergrad) I was waxing poetic about liking the feeling of putting paint on a canvas. I was asked the question "So you like putting paint on things... what separates you from, say, a house painter?"

I thought about it for a second and said, with equal parts purposeful self-consciousness and bitchery, "I use much smaller brushes."

I think I got a C on that critique.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 20, 2008 04:07 PM

Shalome said:

CheshireCat said:
One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good.



Once during a critique (our critiques were sometimes particularly brutal, as much about our personal lives as about the work we were doing, and requiring lots of bullshit verbal presentation of your work) with the grads (oooh, pretentious me, mentioning that I was promoted to painting with the grads while an undergrad) I was waxing poetic about liking the feeling of putting paint on a canvas. I was asked the question "So you like putting paint on things... what separates you from, say, a house painter?"

I thought about it for a second and said, with equal parts purposeful self-consciousness and bitchery, "I use much smaller brushes."

I think I got a C on that critique.


the critiques in my rethinking art class were all about that,I think its really a useless concept,peers critiquing one another's work,actually critique in general.However I do some times enjoy response to my work,which kind creates another dimension to it,but not a relevant one in my eyes.Everything I do for the most part is unconscious,trying to verbalize it or intellectualize it just ruins the whole process of the piece. For some reason people want answers,I think art for the most part is a Rorschach test ...all the girls in my class thought I was a misogynist,but maybe it was really them who had the issues.

MisterLinguist

MisterLinguist

Birmingham, AL
October 2005

JUL 20, 2008 04:09 PM

I took one art class. Drawing 110. It was basically charcoals and conte crayon for figure drawing.

I made an A , and never took another class again. I should rethink that.

I got in trouble every day for telling the flamboyant gay guy in the class the shut the fuck up, because he talked more than he drew. After a few weeks, the teacher (a grad student that looked a lot like bean) started to agree with me.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 20, 2008 04:10 PM

Drake said:
I went to art college! It was the best thing ever. I majored in illustration though, so I got a degree in design rather than fine arts. There is a world of difference. Designers are a whole different class of snob.



no kidding,my only comment toward them for thje most part is puke
p.s. that was not directed to you personally.

lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

JUL 20, 2008 10:53 PM

CheshireCat said:

Roethke said:
This thread is priceless for the nitpicking about specific levels of pretentious douchebaggery.

"I may have been a pretentious such-and-such, but the so-and-sos are the real douchebags! Them and their dumb accessorizing with fill-in-the-blanks!"



I think im definitely a pretentious douche ...I am always trying to explain to people at work why the movies put on Criterion are so important,as well as hopelessly trying to explain what the filmmaker was trying to say in a movie like "SALO 120 Days of Sodom." One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good. I did one piece which was vey abstract and represented what I saw when having sex.I really just sorta made up the theme ...or description of the painting as I walked into class.I was hailed as really breaking the boundary of my previous work which had before been seen as cliche and misogynistic.I have to say I do enjoy some parts and am completely baffled when nobody in my class has anything to say.Im still debating whether I actually want to say as I have thought of taking up the more cliche route of an L.A resident "ACTING"....I think I will be good at this considering the practice I have been doing in art school.



In my opinion, you are part of the problem.

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Calgary, AB
November 2002

JUL 20, 2008 11:41 PM

CheshireCat said:

I think im definitely a pretentious douche ...I am always trying to explain to people at work why the movies put on Criterion are so important,as well as hopelessly trying to explain what the filmmaker was trying to say in a movie like "SALO 120 Days of Sodom." One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good. I did one piece which was vey abstract and represented what I saw when having sex.I really just sorta made up the theme ...or description of the painting as I walked into class.I was hailed as really breaking the boundary of my previous work which had before been seen as cliche and misogynistic.I have to say I do enjoy some parts and am completely baffled when nobody in my class has anything to say.Im still debating whether I actually want to say as I have thought of taking up the more cliche route of an L.A resident "ACTING"....I think I will be good at this considering the practice I have been doing in art school.



You are absolutely everything I hate about artists.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 21, 2008 03:11 AM

FreakPirate said:

CheshireCat said:

I think im definitely a pretentious douche ...I am always trying to explain to people at work why the movies put on Criterion are so important,as well as hopelessly trying to explain what the filmmaker was trying to say in a movie like "SALO 120 Days of Sodom." One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good. I did one piece which was vey abstract and represented what I saw when having sex.I really just sorta made up the theme ...or description of the painting as I walked into class.I was hailed as really breaking the boundary of my previous work which had before been seen as cliche and misogynistic.I have to say I do enjoy some parts and am completely baffled when nobody in my class has anything to say.Im still debating whether I actually want to say as I have thought of taking up the more cliche route of an L.A resident "ACTING"....I think I will be good at this considering the practice I have been doing in art school.



You are absolutely everything I hate about artists.



thats a bold statement with no real example. I learned that bullshit or pretension got me through some of the horrid critique classes I was made to take.In actuality I am quite genuine about how I approach things,especially my art.I made up the theme to that particular painting ( which I will try and post) as an experiment just to see how the class would react.It was my feeling that most of the kids were doing this with their work,that or they had nothing to say which is just as bad if not worse,so I did it myself and the bullshit worked.before that I was in constant argument ,trying to defend my work and point out what they were not seeing or telling them that what they pointed out was completely wrong and had no relevance.Critique classes are interesting as they are mostly reflecting the artist and not the art. P.s. If you want I will talk about why CRITERION is such an important collection but since you hate artists like me I will not bother.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 21, 2008 03:19 AM

lil_tuffy said:

CheshireCat said:

Roethke said:
This thread is priceless for the nitpicking about specific levels of pretentious douchebaggery.

"I may have been a pretentious such-and-such, but the so-and-sos are the real douchebags! Them and their dumb accessorizing with fill-in-the-blanks!"



I think im definitely a pretentious douche ...I am always trying to explain to people at work why the movies put on Criterion are so important,as well as hopelessly trying to explain what the filmmaker was trying to say in a movie like "SALO 120 Days of Sodom." One thing I have learned is to really BULLSHIT at school,and how to sound profound about a work, if I sense the confusion in my other peers when I talk then I know I am onto something good. I did one piece which was vey abstract and represented what I saw when having sex.I really just sorta made up the theme ...or description of the painting as I walked into class.I was hailed as really breaking the boundary of my previous work which had before been seen as cliche and misogynistic.I have to say I do enjoy some parts and am completely baffled when nobody in my class has anything to say.Im still debating whether I actually want to say as I have thought of taking up the more cliche route of an L.A resident "ACTING"....I think I will be good at this considering the practice I have been doing in art school.



In my opinion, you are part of the problem.


what problem exactly...? I think its been established by most people that they are in some way a hypocrite or harbor some pretension in them.Just cause I bullshit some stuff does not mean I have a complete lack of insight.I have more or less learned to deal with the environment in which I harbor. There is snobbery everywhere in different degrees,and SG has it as well.
I dont mind your opinion of me,but please illustrate it better.

CheshireCat

CheshireCat

Los Angeles, CA
January 2004

JUL 21, 2008 03:33 AM

Wendy said:

coyotemike said:

Cash said:
See? And some people act like Greeks are the only college-level douchbags. wink



Oh, douchery finds its way into all levels of college society. We've discussed the art-snob douches. And the frat/sorority douches are evident. But there are plenty of others. There are the writer douches (the one that springs to mind is the guy here who always wears a kilt and has a long beard, who always reads the same damn story at open-mike nights). There are the science douches who scour the world for geek-chic fashions. There are the sports douches who wear workout clothes every day, but change before they workout. There are the psych douches sitting around with whispy beards, trying to smoke pipes and discussing Freud vs Jung. There are the language douches, who start spouting off French and German terms in non-languge classes. There are the church-douches, who can't enter an argument without using the Bible as a source.

And then there are we teacher douches who can't stop laughing in their faces tongue



Don't forget about the hipster douchebags who hang out at townie bars drinking pitchers of PBR!

My best friend went to RISD so I was there a lot and am friends with most of her friends, who I guess would basically fit into the "hipster douchebag" category.

RISD had a lot of naked parties, a lot of orgies, a lot of lesbians, a lot of cocaine... if that's basically what art school is like, then I guess RISD is typical but it was the last thing from typical the years that I was hanging out there.



I am definetely not a hipster douchebag thats for sure....that is a whole other level of douchery deserving its own conversation board.

Kensington

Kensington

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 26, 2008 01:17 PM

I am in art school. It controls my life. I can't even do simple everyday activities without thinking about visual balance, kerning and font. I fucking love it.

Coyotemike

Coyotemike

Kearney, NE
May 2006

JUL 26, 2008 01:26 PM

Kensington said:
I am in art school. It controls my life. I can't even do simple everyday activities without thinking about visual balance, kerning and font. I fucking love it.



So . . . how does this apply to masturbation? tongue

Kensington

Kensington

SUICIDEGIRL

I'm lost

JUL 26, 2008 06:03 PM

coyotemike said:

Kensington said:
I am in art school. It controls my life. I can't even do simple everyday activities without thinking about visual balance, kerning and font. I fucking love it.



So . . . how does this apply to masturbation? tongue



typography gets me hot.

Snazzy

Snazzy

SUICIDEGIRL

Minnesota, USA

JUL 26, 2008 08:09 PM

Kensington said:

coyotemike said:

Kensington said:
I am in art school. It controls my life. I can't even do simple everyday activities without thinking about visual balance, kerning and font. I fucking love it.



So . . . how does this apply to masturbation? tongue



typography gets me hot.



+1

love

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