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sacred

sacred

Canada
September 2003

OCT 28, 2003 08:14 PM

HARSH HARSH HARSH skull

Pauillac

Pauillac

Canada
April 2003

OCT 28, 2003 08:39 PM

"For all intents and purposes" - as opposed to " for all intensive purposes".

The word "clique" should not be pronounced as "click".

SYH

SYH

Redford, MI
February 2003

OCT 28, 2003 08:44 PM

themadking said:
...I guess I could see where the differing dialects come in: you know, the "real" dialect and the "stupid" dialect. But then, stupid people mess up a lot of the English language.



That must be a crack at my expense. Captain Fucking Obvious, that's me. biggrin

themadkind said:
Either way it's a pointless discussion. Obviously I'm never going to agree with the wrong side, and you're never going to agree with the right side.



I never said I didn't agree "champing at the bit" is correct. "Champing" sounds odd to me, but then again I'm retarded. wink I just like arguing a moot point with a shaky basis (chomp [dial. var. of champ]) before I go to bed.

lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

OCT 28, 2003 08:49 PM

Separate - not seperate.

But the one thing that irks me above all else is nauseaous.

If you feel like you are going to throw up, you are nauseated.

The thing that is making you nauseated is nauseaous.

So if you say something makes you nauseaous, that means that it is causing you to make other people to throw up.

Lil_Tuffy

er

er

I'm lost
June 2003

OCT 29, 2003 10:58 AM

themadking said:
Yeah, the sad fact of the matter is, the Enlish language is entirely too changeable. Hell, saying "Hi" in the twenties was considered rude; it was something you said to horses to get them to move, not something you said to people to indicate a greeting.

[Edited on Oct 28, 2003 by themadking]



i'm sorry. the WHAT language?
ok, now i'm just being an asshole.
have a nice day.

Gwendolyn

Gwendolyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Indiana, USA

OCT 29, 2003 02:11 PM

er said:

themadking said:
Yeah, the sad fact of the matter is, the Enlish language is entirely too changeable. Hell, saying "Hi" in the twenties was considered rude; it was something you said to horses to get them to move, not something you said to people to indicate a greeting.

[Edited on Oct 28, 2003 by themadking]



i'm sorry. the WHAT language?
ok, now i'm just being an asshole.
have a nice day.



*lol* I was waiting for someone to point that out.

Nimhly

Nimhly

Green Bay, WI
February 2003

OCT 29, 2003 02:15 PM

Pauillac said:


The word "clique" should not be pronounced as "click".



this i did not know. how do you pronounce it?

sixsixty

sixsixty

Oakland, CA
OLD SKOOL

OCT 29, 2003 02:19 PM

clique can be pronounced like cleek or like click. well thats what dictionary.com says.

lil_tuffy

lil_tuffy

MODERATOR

San Francisco, CA

OCT 29, 2003 02:20 PM

kleek or click (either is accapetable)

It's french, so if you stick your pinky out while drinking your champagne, say kleek.

If yer like the rest of the world and hate the french, say click.

Also, the derivation is from a french word that means "a clicking sound.'

Lil_Tuffy

[Edited on Oct 29, 2003 by lil_tuffy]

UnnecessaryZ

unnecessaryz

Astoria, NY
July 2003

OCT 29, 2003 02:22 PM

The English language changes because how a word is spelled isn't as important as communication. Whether or not you have heavy amounts of non-ass compatible things up your ass regarding spelling shouldn't interfere with your ability to understand what a person is trying to say. If spelling was the most important element of language, then we'd all still be speaking Latin. I know many of you won't back me up since I don't have tits, but that didn't stop well known tit-less educator Socrates from trying his best to pull people's cherished objects out of their asses.
blackeyed

Gwendolyn

Gwendolyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Indiana, USA

OCT 29, 2003 02:24 PM

If someone said "kleek" to me I would have absolutely no idea what they were saying. Does anyone pronounce it like that? (Aside from the French.) I've certainly never heard it.

Nimhly

Nimhly

Green Bay, WI
February 2003

OCT 29, 2003 03:17 PM

Gwendolyn said:
If someone said "kleek" to me I would have absolutely no idea what they were saying. Does anyone pronounce it like that? (Aside from the French.) I've certainly never heard it.



ditto...kleek sounds like the way my cat sounds when she sneezes.

er

er

I'm lost
June 2003

OCT 29, 2003 03:45 PM

Gwendolyn: i'm with you all over the place today, girlie. i have never heard it pronounced clique. we don't say hors d'oeuvres right, why should we say clique right? or filet mignon? or frere jacques? i could keep going...

my point being, lots of pronounced wrongs make english.

and UnnecessaryZ is just getting worked up because he can't spell, nothing to do with not having tits.

Gwendolyn

Gwendolyn

SUICIDEGIRL

Indiana, USA

OCT 29, 2003 04:29 PM

er said:
Gwendolyn: i'm with you all over the place today, girlie. i have never heard it pronounced clique. we don't say hors d'oeuvres right, why should we say clique right? or filet mignon? or frere jacques? i could keep going...

my point being, lots of pronounced wrongs make english.

and UnnecessaryZ is just getting worked up because he can't spell, nothing to do with not having tits.



I'm all about correct spelling and grammar and vocabulary, don't get me wrong. I have a dictionary.com toolbar on my browser. But, as long as people make sense and don't go out of their way to use obnoxious mispelling and mispronunciation, I think they're doing pretty well by today's standards. I always attempt to type/write/speak properly myself, but most people aren't all that concerned with it. I blame the internet. But then again, I blame the internet for a lot of things. Especially the rumor that I've become a porn star, which is popular amongst former high school classmates. wink

themadking

themadking

Kansas City, MO
January 2003

OCT 29, 2003 08:14 PM

er said:

themadking said:
Yeah, the sad fact of the matter is, the Enlish language is entirely too changeable. Hell, saying "Hi" in the twenties was considered rude; it was something you said to horses to get them to move, not something you said to people to indicate a greeting.

[Edited on Oct 28, 2003 by themadking]



i'm sorry. the WHAT language?
ok, now i'm just being an asshole.
have a nice day.



Goddammit! Oh, well, I'm going to leave it there for posterity. It truly is my first mistake.

themadking

themadking

Kansas City, MO
January 2003

OCT 29, 2003 08:19 PM

lil_tuffy said:

But the one thing that irks me above all else is nauseaous.

If you feel like you are going to throw up, you are nauseated.

The thing that is making you nauseated is nauseaous.

So if you say something makes you nauseaous, that means that it is causing you to make other people to throw up.



Main Entry: nau·seous
Pronunciation: 'no-sh&s, 'no-zE-&s
Function: adjective
Date: 1612
1 : causing nausea or disgust : NAUSEATING
2 : affected with nausea or disgust
- nau·seous·ly adverb
- nau·seous·ness noun
usage Those who insist that nauseous can properly be used only in sense 1 and that in sense 2 it is an error for nauseated are mistaken. Current evidence shows these facts: nauseous is most frequently used to mean physically affected with nausea, usually after a linking verb such as feel or become; figurative use is quite a bit less frequent. Use of nauseous in sense 1 is much more often figurative than literal, and this use appears to be losing ground to nauseating. Nauseated is used more widely than nauseous in sense 2.

Of course, it would be hypocritical of me to point out that popular usage has changed the meaning of a word. But there it is.

Anton

Anton

Australia
September 2003

OCT 29, 2003 08:40 PM

I pronounce clique as 'kleek.' I try to pronounce all French-derived words correctly, which makes me look like a pretentious spazfuck. I blame it on my parents being very conscientious to make me respect language or some such.
Having said that, I don't really have a problem with people saying something like 'chomping at the bit.' Yes, it's wrong, but if you can easily get the gist of it, then rock 'n' roll. It's when someone - who has been corrected numerous times - insists that pronouncing bourbon as 'boor-bon' that I start to get irritated.

Kris7

Kris7

Bridgewater, MA
July 2003

OCT 29, 2003 11:26 PM

fuin said:
I used to go on a murderous rampage over the incorrect use of "their", "there", and "they're"... as well as "your" and "you're" but I eventually stopped caring.



Yeah, I hate it when people do that too. Oh and how about this:

they try to say "could have"
it is supposed to be shortened to: "could've"
but so many idiots do it like this: "could of"

WTF????????????? mad

Stefelyn

Stefelyn

Kiribati
July 2003

OCT 30, 2003 12:15 AM

This is great stuff - I learned English as a second language and ended up studying it and was always wondering why they actually bother us with sooo many rules and spelling exercises at uni when in fact nobody seems to care any longer wink

Louise

Louise

SUICIDEGIRL

Oregon, USA

OCT 30, 2003 01:28 AM

ferret said:
i believe the problem is due to accent. if you listen closely, some people say 'tat-too', and some people say 'ta-too'. if you say it 'ta-too' (which isn't 'wrong' if it's due to accent) it makes perfect sense that you'd mispell it.




problem is, people don't spell in accents. they just don't. thaye juss dowont. you see?

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