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Toreena

Toreena

SUICIDEGIRL

Canada

AUG 19, 2002 09:50 PM

Any of you had any experiences with self injury?

And by self injury, I am reffering to "the commission of deliberate harm to one's own body. The injury is done to oneself, without the aid of another person, and the injury is severe enough for tissue damage (such as scarring) to result. Acts that are committed with conscious suicidal intent or are associated with sexual arousal are excluded."

I'm very curious whether this has been a part of anyone else's life, whether it be having to deal with a loved one who is cutting, or being a cutter yourself.

Thoughts? Stories? Reflections?

CatBoner

CatBoner

Ventura, CA
August 2002

AUG 19, 2002 10:02 PM

my sister used to cut. those were an extremely scary few years... shes had counselling and has stopped for the past year or two, but i was absolutely worried to death while it was happening. there was one particular "episode" or whatever you want to call it in which i said something to her right before she went and did some things that got the police involved. she was in a hospital for a couple weeks and i was worried out of my head...i havent really talked about it in any way since right after it happened, and i was still kind of angry...now its just making me kind of sad, but happy at the same time since shes been able to get through it.

[Edited on Aug 19, 2002 by catXboner]

phaedraeos

phaedraeos

Ithaca, NY
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:08 PM

you can go check out the nice scar on my leg in the picture in my thread of me hugging my bear. it extends further upwards than you can see.

my step brother, who is 6 years older than i, beat me from when i was 13 to 15. i have about 40 various scars from self mutilation, most on my legs but about 5 or 6 on my arms. i was also nicely bulemic, a compulsive overeater, you name it.

batattak asked me the other day why i did it. the simpest response i could think of was so that i could control at least part of the pain i was feeling.

Powdered_Toast_Man

Powdered_Toast_Man

I'm lost
August 2002

AUG 19, 2002 10:11 PM

i knew a couple cutters back in Jr High. one did it out of hte pure hell of it, and to get noticed for being different. some may have said it was her cry for help, but i think it was more her way of saying "here i am sick, fix me"

the other did it to escape the pain of her life at that time. her parents were having a rough time together, a close friend and relative had died a few months back. for her cutting was a way to forget all the other pain in her life.

I also worked with a guy who over the process of 3 months cut and scarred the band SLAYER in his arm.

I have never personally done cutting, though of it a couple times, but opted to write some poery or pump iron instead.

[Edited on Aug 19, 2002 by Powdered_Toast_Man]

CatBoner

CatBoner

Ventura, CA
August 2002

AUG 19, 2002 10:11 PM

it hurts me so much to know how cruel people can be to each other.

Powdered_Toast_Man

Powdered_Toast_Man

I'm lost
August 2002

AUG 19, 2002 10:16 PM

i agree with catX. it is horrible when all my friend share these horrendus stories of bf's, brothers, fathers, abusing them. some are so much i an feeling sick just remembering them.

I will not be the first to say it, but i will admit. alot of guys aren't worth the skin they are made from. so many things wrong, so few things right.

cypher

cypher

Des Moines, IA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:26 PM

isn't that about having some sort of control issues?
i dunno...
i don't get it at all....

confused surreal

phaedraeos

phaedraeos

Ithaca, NY
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:27 PM

it sounds horrible but i woudn't change it for the world.

it's made me who i am, and helped me learn to love myself like few other things have.

BatAttaK

BatAttaK

Tacoma, WA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:45 PM

That's so weird. You and I were talking about this just last night.


syncronicity

GoatsGoToHell

GoatsGoToHell

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:48 PM

I did more when I was a teen... I've been good about not doing it for awhile now.

They become fewer and far between, but also worse each time I do it ..so yeah.. I have some ugly scars I know.

I get ppl asking all the time about the one on the back of my left hand...that was down to the tendon..probably 4 years old now, but still looks pretty fresh...

googused

googused

Portland, OR
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:50 PM

I went out with a cutter for quite a while. I. She did everything she could to sabotage the relationship and her life and my psyche. It drove her crazy to be happy. I was dead nuts about her. She started cheating on me and the cutting got alot worse. She would show up at my house in bandages and cry and ask me to help her. I had no idea how. It finally became too much for me to handle and I called her parents. They came from back east and stuck her in a hospital for a while. We talked on the phone all the time and made plans for when she was released. I went to New York to see her - she had gotten a job in some schwanky shoe store in Trump Tower - and showed up looking like my ususal ripped jeans and t-shirt self. She got all pissed at me for showing up at her fancy ass store looking "sloppy" and we screamed at each other in a cab for about 20 blocks in traffic. I said fuck it and jumped out at Washington Square and didn't hear a word from her for ten years. She emailed me last year and thanked me for saving her life, enclosing a pic of her two kids.

*sigh*

INKEDgirl

INKEDgirl

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:53 PM

googuse said:
I went out with a cutter for quite a while. I. She did everything she could to sabotage the relationship and her life and my psyche. It drove her crazy to be happy. I was dead nuts about her. She started cheating on me and the cutting got alot worse. She would show up at my house in bandages and cry and ask me to help her. I had no idea how. It finally became too much for me to handle and I called her parents. They came from back east and stuck her in a hospital for a while. We talked on the phone all the time and made plans for when she was released. I went to New York to see her - she had gotten a job in some schwanky shoe store in Trump Tower - and showed up looking like my ususal ripped jeans and t-shirt self. She got all pissed at me for showing up at her fancy ass store looking "sloppy" and we screamed at each other in a cab for about 20 blocks in traffic. I said fuck it and jumped out at Washington Square and didn't hear a word from her for ten years. She emailed me last year and thanked me for saving her life, enclosing a pic of her two kids.

*sigh*



OH MY GOD! Did you lose your shit when you read that or WHAT!?!?!

What a good guy you are. smile

Cash

Cash

USA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 10:53 PM

I did it for a while....not a big deal....I hav a few scars on my arm. The truth is, I don't know why I did it. I wasn't an unusually sad kid......just felt like having some cool scars I guess.

takora

takora

Malaysia
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 11:10 PM

i did, a litle bit... i have a series of some fairly deep scars on a bicep, and on my ribs, and some lighter ones on my arm... the first one i remember doing was in 5th grade-- i carved the name of a girl i liked -- 'PAULA'-- over my left shoulder. wasn't too deep, but you can still see it if you look... the other, deeper, ones were actually from college... i think i was just wanting to experiment with the tool, and with the pain. and i do still love to play with and taste blood... there was a period of ritualizing my artwork, too, and using blood in it.

joyrider

joyrider

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

AUG 19, 2002 11:38 PM

self-destruction is easy to understand.

physical sensation blocks the pain in your head and heart. in self-inflicted pain, there is control - like someone said up above - you say when, you say how, you say how bad.

drugs are the same way for some people - you obliterate the pain of your life.

people that cut or get strung out usually are going though some incredible pain. on top of it, they get stigmatized for being "fucked up."

stupid reptile brained society. it eats it's young.

phaedraeos

phaedraeos

Ithaca, NY
OLD SKOOL

AUG 20, 2002 04:52 AM

i'd never known a single boy who did it before this site, but soooooo many girls.

but it sounds like the 2 sexes generally have different reasons for it . . .

Stewd

Stewd

I'm lost
OLD SKOOL

AUG 20, 2002 07:02 AM

I had a girlfriend that has borderline personality disorder... she'd always disassociate when she'd drink and end up cutting herself... it was yucky...

d2411726

d2411726

United Kingdom
July 2002

AUG 20, 2002 12:46 PM

Humans are getting to be very smart now days.

Pain could be considered an illusion. Evolution may have caused pain to exsist to protect us from looking sickly (having scars malhealed broken bones and things) so that we have a better chance of breeding. Breeding is the animal instinct. Human's, though, can escape the animal instinct. These thoughts can go on to explain the only difference between animals and humans (if there is a diifference). Animals don't make art. They can not escape the instincts, unless we somehow humanized them - gorillas that paint.

Anyway, some people may become confused when they start to realize such thoughts on their own. Confusion can cause anger. Anger can cause an animal to attack. Soooo, a human dealing with such insights may experiment with the (art of?) escaping the illusion of pain - Escaping the illusion that all that there is to life is looking very well so that another animal chooses you to breed with. I could be wrong.

Also, if anyone knows what I'm talking about it, the A.'.A.'. had a thing in Libers some-number-or-other about one cutting one's self on the arms everytime one did something one was trying to break themself of. It doesn't suggest mutilation. Unlikely one's would be involved with that stuff though.

Nic

Nic

SUICIDEGIRL

United Kingdom

AUG 20, 2002 12:50 PM

I used to cut myself pretty badly because I was very, very depressed during my sixth form and 1st attempt at going to uni (I dropped out after two months). My boyfriend was a cutter as well during school, I think he did it to upset people and get attention.
The last time I did it was last July. I haven't done it since because it really upset Colin, but I can't promise myself that I won't do it again. I remember very well just how far one person can fall...

Roxy

Roxy

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 20, 2002 01:27 PM

I used to cut myself really badly. I still have scars up and down my arms, and this was a about and year and a half ago. You can see the scars in my first set frown I didn't even realize it. People still look at them, and I hate it. I used to wear bandages all over my arms. By the end, the cuts were really deep, and were hard to keep from bleeding.

I still get the urge sometimes. But I try not to do it, it upsets everyone close to me who sees them. I tried to keep them hidden when I did it really bad, but people eventually saw.

That was during the worse period in my life. I'm so glad it's over.

Alice

Alice

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

AUG 20, 2002 01:29 PM

i had a brief cutting period when i was in 8th grade. my 2 year old cousin had died 6 months earlier from a brain tumor and some very bad stuff was happening to my dad. but i had other friends who did it too, though i couldn't give you any explanation as to why. i'm glad i don't have any visible scars. it took a couple years for some to go away. i'm so squemish about stuff like that, so i'm pretty surprised that i did that. i don't think i'd do that now.

Atomic_Tiki

Atomic_Tiki

Glendale, CA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 20, 2002 02:14 PM

You any of you cutting freaks want to some scarification? i need to practice! I'm bored with piercing people & I need to move on to bigger & better things such as branding & scarring people.... tongue biggrin

CatBoner

CatBoner

Ventura, CA
August 2002

AUG 20, 2002 02:33 PM

d2411726 said:
the only difference between animals and humans (if there is a diifference). Animals don't make art. They can not escape the instincts, unless we somehow humanized them - gorillas that paint.



humans are animals. its our ability to make art, etc that makes us SUPERIOR animals.

gorillas do not paint. it offends me as an artist and a person with intelligence that people consider gorillas smearing crap on paper to be painting.

dontbother

dontbother

Antarctica
July 2002

AUG 20, 2002 03:27 PM

i was bulemic and very drepressed when i was 15-16. when i stopped being bulemic, i was deleriously happy for a while, then i started to feel very empty, like i didn't exist. so i started cutting myself, just to feel something.
i never did it a lot, but you can still see most of my scars. I haven't cut myself since last summer (hooray!)...but sometimes i really want to.

Grimmmm

Grimmmm

Oakland, CA
OLD SKOOL

AUG 20, 2002 03:49 PM

When I was cutting myself, I thought I was doing it to show that I had some control over myself, that I wasn't just a slave to my urges and desires to be wanted and loved.

Looking back, I realize I was just doing it for attention.

I would only cut on my upper arms, making sure that some of the cuts were visible from under my sleeves. I would walk around hoping someone would ask me about them.

I consider the day I realized that, the day I "grew up".

note: This was an expeience is most likley completely uniqe to me. I am not putting judgment on anyone else, or trying to awnser why people cut. This was just what happened to me.

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