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Fractal

Fractal

SUICIDEGIRL

Louisiana, USA

MAY 27, 2008 10:13 PM

Here's a little piece of advice, mostly for the ladies, but boys – take it as you will.

When filing for divorce, and you aren't yourself a lawyer, trained in any legal lexicon, and are sort of a basket case to begin with, don't try to decipher the jargon on the paperwork while you are PMSing and just ran out of cupcakes. In fact, don't do anything but acquire more cupcakes and an extra, Costco-sized jug of Midol. Do not try to explain to your ex why these papers are so important, and how there is a strict timeline in which things need to occur. Do not have a meltdown when things do not happen EXACTLY your way. Keep in mind, you are not currently dealing with a rational set of emotional tools, nor are you dealing with another rational human. You're dealing with an ex.

I'm not saying that ex's are all evil horrific beasties. They don't all have to be shot on sight. The process of "Becoming An Ex" is something that we have all experienced. People change once they become an ex. It's a fast and slick metamorphosis, and happens instantly once the words "We need to talk" are said. Next thing you know, you're realizing that the person you thought you knew has gone utterly and completely insane, or perhaps has been insane the entire time and just tricked you into thinking otherwise.

One night I got home from work and a recent ex was sitting on my porch, looking furious. Apparently, Mr. Mad had broken into my house to sift through my trashcan for "evidence". Evidence of what? That I throw shit away and don't always recycle? Was he expecting to find some great revelation as to why we broke up, buried in with my food scraps and take out containers? We broke up because he was driving me nuts and I thought he was a moron. Maybe somewhere deep down inside I knew that he was eventually going to turn into the type of person that would break into my house to dig through my trashcans.

On another night, many years later, I was woken up at about 4:30 AM to a sound on my porch. I opened the curtains, and saw (another) fresh ex. This one was sitting there doing bumps of coke. It was the equivalent of him saying, "Guess what! I'm a drug addict! Surprise!!" When I opened the door, and politely asked what the fuck he was doing there, his only reply was that he was waiting for me to wake up. In his amphetamine-addled little mind, my 6 AM wakeup would be the perfect time to have the “please get back together with me” chat. Unfortunately for him, it didn't work out as planned. Rather than getting back together, I closed the door and called the cops.

Know what I learned from all of that? People usually aren't who they seem to be, and I should have bought a better fucking lock for my gate years ago.
The grieving period post-breakup is what seems to force people into a bout of the loonies, and whomever initiated the split is obliged to stand there saying, "Oh wow, you're suddenly completely insane now that we have broken up!" Sometimes this can lead into dumpster-diving, coke-snorting middle of the night visits… sometimes this causes endless email and phone calls… and sometimes this causes trash-talking and rumors. Whatever the case may be, I've only ever heard of one break up that went smoothly, where both parties shook hands and said, "Well, at least we tried."

The thing is, we've all tried, and yet we continue to allow this cycle of lunacy. Does this mean that we actually want smooth sailing? Or would that just leave us bored? It seems to me that we all enjoy the agony and the ecstasy of it all. Anguish is just as strong of an emotion as love, and the good can't feel as good without the bad.

So go ahead. Go dig through your old emails, and leave your gates unlocked. We've all been on the other end of it – we've all sent those emails and letters, we've all dialed the phone and hung up as soon as the other person answered (well, at least until caller ID came about), and we're all going to keep doing it. It makes us feel a bit cinematic, and also gives our friends something to laugh about. In all honesty, even if we knew what a wing nut someone we are involved with will become once it's over and done with, wouldn't we still go for it?

Dr_Pwnage

Dr_Pwnage

Gainesville, FL
February 2005

MAY 28, 2008 07:54 AM

Yes indeed!

OpticNerve

OpticNerve

Arlington, MA
November 2003

MAY 28, 2008 09:21 AM

We all want to be the heroes of our own dramas.

JekyllAndHyde

JekyllAndHyde

Baltimore, MD
April 2005

MAY 28, 2008 09:35 AM

Once again, with a touch of guilt, I'm feeling lucky that the one breakup I went through was more or less amicable, one of those shake your head and say, "well, shit" things.

erin_broadley

erin_broadley

Los Angeles, CA
October 2006

MAY 28, 2008 09:44 AM

i've definitely known how much of a wing nut someone was and still gone for it. guilty as charged. sometimes i think people would just rather feel something, anything, rather than being alone, even if that includes anguish.

lavenir

lavenir

Turlock, CA
June 2007

MAY 28, 2008 10:32 AM

When filing for divorce, and you aren't yourself a lawyer, trained in any legal lexicon, and are sort of a basket case to begin with, don't try to decipher the jargon on the paperwork while you are PMSing and just ran out of cupcakes.

I suppose, for me, that translates out to having a pot of coffee readily at-hand. In the morning, before I've had any, I'm typically two steps removed from caveman violence.

It seems to me that we all enjoy the agony and the ecstasy of it all. Anguish is just as strong of an emotion as love, and the good can't feel as good without the bad.

"Anguish is no less intelligence the means for knowing"--Georges Bataille

turin

turin

Denver, CO
October 2003

MAY 28, 2008 10:57 AM

guess I've been lucky.

ericwine

ericwine

Charlotte Hall, MD
January 2007

MAY 28, 2008 11:04 AM

I'm sorry, Fractal, you seem to have shitty luck when it comes to meeting men. frown
So far, my breakups have all been more or less amicable. My pattern seems to be letting it go past the point where the relationship has died, then when we end it, it's a case of mutual relief and we part friends. But I've seen enough grief and misery from other people having the kind of breakups you wrote about, so nothing surprises me much, even the 6AM cokehead.

defaultx

defaultx

I'm lost
February 2006

MAY 28, 2008 11:16 AM

what Erin said.

yea when both of you know its doomed from the start its usually torrid and intense,
kinda like a drug.

erin_broadley

erin_broadley

Los Angeles, CA
October 2006

MAY 28, 2008 11:24 AM

I had an ex lover sleep on my porch once. Another time he broke into my house and ate my avocados, then left. I consider it source material for a future novel smile

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

MAY 28, 2008 12:18 PM

Some guys eventually grow up. Like at 35 or so. Drama is too much work.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

MAY 28, 2008 12:22 PM

erin_broadley said:
sometimes i think people would just rather feel something, anything, rather than being alone, even if that includes anguish.



bingo.

i'm actually in the minority of people who can spot a wingnut from space and run like hell. i got over all that soap opera shit when i was like 19.

Sydni

Sydni

SUICIDEGIRL

Washington, USA

MAY 28, 2008 12:34 PM

I had an "at least we tried breakup". It was weird. I wanted us to scream at each other. It just wasn't natural.

Sydni

Sydni

SUICIDEGIRL

Washington, USA

MAY 28, 2008 12:35 PM

But now I think it's completely normal.

To find the weirdos, I like to see how they are around drugs and alchohol, and while that's going on, ask them about their parents.

That's my wingnut finder right there.

livertarian

livertarian

Fairfax, VA
February 2008

MAY 28, 2008 12:40 PM

Sydni said:

To find the weirdos, I like to see how they are around drugs and alchohol, and while that's going on, ask them about their parents.

That's my wingnut finder right there.



HAH! That is excellent.

Skywisdom

Skywisdom

Portland, OR
December 2005

MAY 28, 2008 01:19 PM

I had one amicable break-up, very mutual and friendly. The reason? We didn't care enough about each other at any point to be upset about it. Breakups, and the aftermath of them, are intense as the emotions that were present during the breakup. Sometimes that's enough to make people absolutely crazy.

Other times, you just end up dating a loon from the beginning because you just got broken up with by someone you were madly in love with, and the only way to suppress the pain is to rebound on the first girl that shows a sign of attraction. Hypothetically.

hk85

hk85

Guerneville, CA
October 2007

MAY 28, 2008 01:19 PM


One night I got home from work and a recent ex was sitting on my porch, looking furious. Apparently, Mr. Mad had broken into my house to sift through my trashcan for "evidence". Evidence of what? That I throw shit away and don't always recycle?



It's like you have some wierd kind of Darwin Award Winner magnetism going on. smile

mydogfarted

mydogfarted

Oakland, NJ
June 2003

MAY 28, 2008 01:50 PM

Look kids... hire a lawyer. Sell a kidney/plasma/drugs/whatever to raise the money and bite the bullet. I'm going through a relatively civil divorce and there are still times where you just need someone to deal with the legal stuff properly so you don't get screwed.

NathanialBlood

NathanialBlood

United Kingdom
August 2006

MAY 28, 2008 02:08 PM

wow i suddenly feel great about my breakup's. There has only ever once been drama. yay me biggrin

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

MAY 28, 2008 02:17 PM


"Charlie! You fucking bitch! Let's work it out!!"

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_margot_

_margot_

Los Angeles, CA
December 2007

MAY 28, 2008 02:27 PM

SuicidePuppies said:

"Charlie! You fucking bitch! Let's work it out!!"

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I have had a split like that. He insulted the living hell out of me time and again, yet asked to come back. Made no sense to me. If I was so horrible, then why do you want to come back.

Dark_Cabal

Dark_Cabal

Arvada, CO
June 2006

MAY 28, 2008 02:43 PM

Well said.

Taolie

Taolie

Madison, WI
November 2007

MAY 28, 2008 03:33 PM

That's why I've given up dating - I'm too old for any of that shit. Life is too short to deal with other people's drama.

I'd rather just be friends with people. If your friend stops liking you, they just stop calling. No drama, clean break, no messy aftertaste.

If one of my friends wants to throw some affection into the mix, fine, I'm all for it, but if not, I'm not going to miss it much. Life is easier without it, anyway.

orbro

orbro

New York, NY
July 2004

MAY 28, 2008 04:08 PM

It's all good. Until it's not.

Squire

Squire

I'm lost
November 2003

MAY 28, 2008 05:12 PM

Fractal said:
I'm not saying that ex's are all evil horrific beasties. They don't all have to be shot on sight. The process of "Becoming An Ex" is something that we have all experienced. People change once they become an ex. It's a fast and slick metamorphosis, and happens instantly once the words "We need to talk" are said. Next thing you know, you're realizing that the person you thought you knew has gone utterly and completely insane, or perhaps has been insane the entire time and just tricked you into thinking otherwise.



In the middle of my divorce and the lunacy that seemed to have gripped both of the participants, a very wise and and experienced former divorce lawyer (thanks sis!) told me that everyone is AT THEIR WORST during a divorce. Maybe it's a good thing? Maybe recalling the loon they became rather than "the good times" makes it easier to move on.

Fractal said:
It seems to me that we all enjoy the agony and the ecstasy of it all. Anguish is just as strong of an emotion as love, and the good can't feel as good without the bad.



Wasn't there a South Park episode where Butters says almost the same thing? Anyway, I think sometimes it feels "good" to embrace the melancholy of a failed relationship. That said, I've never found myself digging through anyone's garbage or stealing their produce.

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