That's what the guy sitting across the chintzy Formica table from me wanted to know.
Ummm
Seven days earlier I'd seen the same insane footage you had. Tom Cruise laying out what Scientology means to him in a soon-to-be-banned indoctrination video. It was everywhere, even parodied by former SG columnist Jon Kesselman. After multiple viewings I was able to discern this much.
1) We can safely say, Tom's "pro-Scientology." Oh yeah. Maybe you thought the connections were overblown, exaggerated even. Nope. He loves the shit out of Scientology. Loves it like you love, well, probably nothing. Maybe drugs.
2) Scientologists are just as into acronyms as the rest of us. If theres any common ground, at all, to be found among E-meter using, Suppressive Person hating Scientologists and the rest of us fun-loving thetan-filled jerks its that we all enjoy shortening our words into catchy sequences of letters. Its fun, rewarding, and probably saves time once people have got em down. Thats gotta be worth something, right? Were not so different, you and I Oh, whats that? You guys believe Oh. Heh, okay, TCB!
3) Sometimes the above statement will be followed up with a whooshing airplane sound. Possibly this plane is piloted by John Travolta.
4) Scientology can be summed up with the assessment, Youre either doing it, or youre not. You may have noticed that this is something Scientology shares with every other activity on the planet. Also, Tom claims to be able to tell if youre actually doing it, or not. Not unlike the messy room I grew up in. I could either clean it or not, but I wasnt going outside until I did. Similar to Tom, my mother knew whether Id really cleaned or just piled stuff in the closet. Stuff I didnt want found. Or found out. Cough.
Here are some highlights:
Being a Scientologist, when you drive past an accident, its not like anyone else. As you drive past, you know you have to do something about it, because you know youre the only one that can really help.
Midway through my planned snide remark I realized, Shit, I think I kinda remember hearing about him saving people from some accident a while back. That scrapped that cheap shot. For him. But where the hells Jenna Elfman been? I havent seen her so much as helping change a flat-tire on the Cahuenga Pass. Travolta? Lady from "Cheers"? Maybe a little less Scientology, and a little more Try-entology, huh, guys.
Its you, its everyone out there, re-reading KSW and looking at what needs to be done and saying, Okay! Am I going to do it or am I not going to do it? Period. Am I going to look at that guy or am I too afraid because I have my own out-ethics, put in someone elses ethics. Thats what it all comes down to.
And I wont hesitate to put ethics in someone else, because I put it ruthlessly in myself. And I think that I uh I respect that, you know, in others. And, you know, Im there to help, and were here to help, and my opinion is that, look, either youre on board or youre not on board. Okay, its just, if youre on board, youre on board just like the rest of us. Period.
Tom, Im a little unclear on that not onboard, onboard part, can we go over it one more time?
Also, putting your ethics in someone, is that an outpatient procedure? What if Im not sure where someones ethics have been, but he IS a Scientologist, is this still something youd recommend or
We are the authorities in getting people off drugs. We are the authorities on the mind. We are the authorities on improving conditions. Criminals, we can rehabilitate criminals. Way to happiness, we can bring peace and unite cultures, uh, that once you know these tools and you know that they work, its not good enough that Im just doing okay.
You can call yourself anything you like but Ive found that the most effective authorities are the ones actually recognized by someone, um, not included in the authority.
And, also, Im sorry, youre the authority on drugs AND the mind? And rehabbing criminals? Id be more inclined to believe you if you just picked one thing. Its like this restaurant near me that claims to have the best burgers hot dogs chicken and seafood on the west coast. Id have let hot dog slide but, yeah youre overreaching just a bit with that other stuff. Especially considering youre located inside an old railcar on the Sunset Strip.
He goes on, and there are newer leaked clips around, one, notable for the ill-advised, possibly criminal line Why ask permission? We are the authorities. But I think we get the gist. Sure, I enjoy snarkily writing jokes that shit on someones misguided beliefs as much as the next guy, but, this time I felt like going slightly further. This is bigger than the typical asinine news story and maybe it required something beyond just reading something. Which brings me to the opening line, delivered by my new Scientological pal, at the headquarters of Scientology conveniently located on L. Ron Hubbard Drive.
The electronic billboard out front offers a Free Personality Test, between flashes touting the worldwide to-date sales of Dianetics. (More than 10.) I wasnt sure what to expect. Wall to wall drones frantically covering sacred texts as I walked through the glass doors seemed a bit much, but I had to at least take a look, right? Maybe they had something? Maybe something worthwhile? Could I honestly say, one way or the other, without having gone down there firsthand to experience it? The answer is, of course, yes, I couldve, but I went to the trouble anyway.
People flit about in oddly nautical attire, white-shirt adorned with the shoulder decorations of a Princess Cruise veteran. I asked about taking the free test and they led me to a mostly empty classroom, walls crammed with various charts and photos of prior successes. A dumpy, middle-aged fellow made his way through the test. Two hundred questions including the following:
1) Do you make thoughtless remarks or accusations which you later regret?
(Wow, its like they could see into the future!)
2) Do you browse through railway timetables, directories, or dictionaries just for pleasure?
(A question no doubt included to placate the worlds most boring Scientologist, whos looking to make a few pen pals.)
98) Would you use corporal punishment on a child, aged ten, if it refused to obey you?
(If I told it once, I told it a thousand times, stay out of daddys secret drawer.)
I answered the questions as honestly as possible, though some were perhaps intentionally vague. I was told to wait in the lobby after the tests completion, while they analyzed my score. The receptionist broke up her occasional iPhoning to tell me, It would only be a few more minutes. (iPhone? What, no Hubbardyne 6000?)
Several awkward, and yes, seemingly haze-covered people entered and exited. Then Ruben beckoned me into a depressingly office-like cubicle. (Wheres the burnished steel? The moon rock?) The ultimate how-full-of-shit-are-they conclusion rested on my results.
My scores were all over the map, though with several firmly in the Attention Urgent category. His analysis? You sometimes get frustrated when you put things off, only to discover that its now to late to do them This seemed incredibly insightful until I recalled checking the + box next to the question reading Do you sometimes put things off, and then realize its too late to do them.
Similar to his conclusion that I often find myself going off in many directions at once. Which is exactly the way the question I marked yes to, read. (as indicated again, by a plus sign) On the off chance I wasnt following, he then proceeded to draw a circle representing me, and added arrows indicating me going off in many directions. If only there was a box I could check indicating, I understood what words meant, and dont often require diagrams when not defusing bombs. Another analysis/consulting-of-the-answer-I-gave-earlier resulted in yet another diagram. This one: an X representing me, next to a line blocking me from a scribble representing my goal. Nice. Finally, after several free movie screening offers, a request for me to purchase a book and, if I was in a hurry to get there, classes, the question came
"What do you want to get out of Scientology?"
I think Ive got it, thanks*
* Actually, I hemmed and hawed, then said I wasnt sure. I also admitted my biggest problem was laziness which, thankfully, he didnt respond to with a crudely drawn diagram of me sitting in a recliner eating a sandwich
When they asked what you were hoping to get out of Scientology, you should have said, "I want you to put your ethics into me" in the creepiest voice you could muster...
they really, really, really push the hard sell on books and/or courses (all at university bookstore-level inflated prices) upon your first visit...almost charmingly oblivious to the impression that generates.
At the prices they quoted me, "Clearing the World" would cost like 12x or 13x Iraq wars...good luck with that.
emperorreagan said:
When they asked what you were hoping to get out of Scientology, you should have said, "I want you to put your ethics into me" in the creepiest voice you could muster...
THE RELIGION OF SCIENTOLOGY
CREED OF THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY
We of the Church believe:
That all men of whatever race, color, or creed were created with equal rights;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own religious practices and their performance;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own lives;
That all men have inalienable rights to their sanity;
That all men have inalienable rights to their own defense;
That all men have inalienable rights to conceive, choose, assist or support their own organizations, churches and governments;
That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others;
That all men have inalienable rights to the creation of their own kind;
That the souls of men have the rights of men;
That the study of the mind and the healing of mentally caused ills should not be alienated from religion or condoned in non-religious fields;
And that no agency less than God has the power to suspend or set aside these rights, overtly or covertly.
And we of the Church believe:
That man is basically good;
That he is seeking to survive;
That his survival depends upon himself and his attainment of brotherhood with the universe.
And we of the Church believe that the laws of God forbid man:
To destroy his own kind;
To destroy the sanity of another;
To destroy or enslave another's soul;
To destroy or reduce the survival of one's companions or one's group.
And we of the Church believe that the spirit can be saved and that the spirit alone may save or heal the body.
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
Scientology is a belief system like any other, complete with inherent contradictions that are glossed over by the fear and weakness of the believer.
I'd like to ask Tom if one creates there own reality then what is there to know and then do something about? If I want my reality to be romping and playing and I am the creator of my reality then it will be romping and playing. Circular logic sounds cool and mystic I know but that doesn't make it important or useful in any way.
Margot_Dent said:
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
Margot_Dent said:
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
I so wish that I'd been with you guys.
it was really super unsettling. this was my test, i still have no idea what it means.
wow, they're vacuous, duping fuckbags. of course, it seems taht the results of the test are not what you write down on the paper and how that's interpreted. the actual test seems to be having you take the "test" and how you react to their "results." it's to see how interested you really are in Scientology and how gullible you are.
more so than any other "religion[1]," Scientology seems to be built on the backs of the stupid, gullible, and easily duped. sucking the money out of those it gets wrapped up in its lies and blinded by the staggering number of suckered celebrities on their roster. it pisses me off so goddamn much.
[1]: anything "discovered" while playing with a gadget on one's private yacht, hopped up on pills, drugs, and liquor, probably dehydrated, and not eating for days doesn't count as a religion in my eyes.
Margot_Dent said:
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
A friend of mine did it once and said that when it was all done he got this creepy, scary feeling like they weren't going to let him leave.
Margot_Dent said:
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
A friend of mine did it once and said that when it was all done he got this creepy, scary feeling like they weren't going to let him leave.
yeah, you sit and take test after test after test, then they make you go around and sit and talk with like 4 different people. it's exhausting and feels like it's never going to end. not as fun or funny as it seems!
Margot_Dent said:
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
A friend of mine did it once and said that when it was all done he got this creepy, scary feeling like they weren't going to let him leave.
yeah, you sit and take test after test after test, then they make you go around and sit and talk with like 4 different people. it's exhausting and feels like it's never going to end. not as fun or funny as it seems!
you sure they weren't trying to sell you a timeshare?
"We gave you a free lunch, and a two day resort pass - all we ask is that you listen to a 30 minute presentation. OK, go ahead, leave, see if we care. *sob*"
To put Ethics in on someone else is to basically write up the wrong doings of another scientologist. They do it for themselves too. See in scientology if you know someone is not "using the tech" correctly, you are as much in the wrong as the other person. therefore, if you do not put someone in ethics, it will mess up your chances of "continuing the bridge".They have a panel called Ethics as well that will call you up on your "crimes" that have been written up against you that discipline you as they see fit.
Margot_Dent said:
miss Flux and I got drunk and did this once on Hollywood Blvd. i don't recommend it, as it was pretty terrifying. hope you gave a fake name, coolerking.
I so wish that I'd been with you guys.
it was really super unsettling. this was my test, i still have no idea what it means.
Why would they use a line graph? The X axis isn't a variable.
Wouldn't one of those horizontal bar graphs with a center 0 axis make more sense for this kind of data?
TheCoolerKing said:
But where the hell's Jenna Elfman been? I haven't seen her so much as helping change a flat-tire on the Cahuenga Pass. Travolta? Lady from Cheers? Maybe a little less Scientology, and a little more Try-entology, huh, guys.
Exactly. I need to see Giovanni Ribisi protecting a campground from a bear, or something. Come on G, man up. At the very least, run into the woods to get bear's attention. I think you owe us that much.
If scientology was recognized as philosophical idealism it would be okay, but as a religion? just because some guy wrote a novel? I'm going to join the J.R.R. Tolkein Lord of the Rings religion where Frodo takes the place of Jesus. I mean let me just say that this is a pop culture religion and has no merit. This is a religion that doesn't exist in middle america, only in places where pop culture prevails. Its only a fad for Us weekly or People magazine.
TheCoolerKing
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Los Angeles, CA
JAN 20, 2008 12:36 AM