NEWS: The Saddest Hero Story You'll Ever Read

I think it's time to close this thread, already.

it's threads like these that make me avoid the boards, but this one was particularly fantastic.

subrosa, thank you for being the indignant rage dwelling deep in heart. oyaji, thanks for being the simple legal logic that was living in my brain.

and flux, i don't want to be too jdm here, but thanks for continually kicking ass.

Also Thank you varukasalt for not being afraid of being wrong. It's a human trait that too few people are willing to risk, and even less to admit to.

Actually, no. It was before varukasalt made his apology (which was appreciated when it was made). Regardless, it's not like he (SirPsychoSexy) should be responsible for reading the entirety of the other threads. His comment was completely, 100% appropriate because varukasalt was, in the comment he responded to, blaming the victim. TheFreak just said it was shit because, as I alluded to before, he isn't willing to accept that people can react to this strongly. To him, if they are they must be misreading the thread (see his overwhelmingly condescending response to Necia, for example) or being obtuse (see everything else).

I'm really not deliberately misreading anything here. I'm not going to respond to anything he says to me because it's so far beyond the point of anything that it's not worth my time. So in that sense I'll let it rest, but I stand by my statements above.

Dude, I like you man, and I appreciate where you're coming from, but frankly it's not your (or Freak's or anyone's) place to say when this conversation should be over. I appreciate why some people would want to walk away from it and if that's the case, they should. Some of those folks should now walk away with their heads higher than others, but that doesn't mean things are necessarily done.

I think it's tragic that a story like this could devolve into a discussion like this and I've taken responsibility in private for the part I played in that. That said, those ideas that created it are still out there. This story is still there, and if people want to talk, express or react to it I think that they should do just that.

edit/ PMed instead.

*deep breath*

I hoped my last post in this thread would indeed be my last post, but I feel the need to follow varukasalt's example, for the sake of karma and my blood pressure.

I may have expressed myself wrong. I let personal experiences and my emotions get the better of me. I do not regret defending varukasalt, and I still contend there were better ways to convey opinions than hurling insults. We can all agree the discussion got way out of hand. My "shit" comment was not directed @the continuation of the discussion as a whole, nor am I not "unable to accept" that a discussion like this can evoke strong reactions in the reader. But, as I noted here, I just wanted the shit-slinging to end. And I tried to walk away, because I knew it was getting to me. The only reason I responded to you as I did was I felt your (and others) comments which were then directed towards me were unwarranted, and I defended myself and my character. I could've responded differently, I could've responded in a more civil manner. And for that, I apologize. But I stand by my reasons for them. I know who I am, and nobody can truly tell me otherwise.

You, or anyone else can choose to do whatever you wish w/this post. You can accept it, or you can ignore it and move on. I don't care. I'm done. There needs to be bigger priorities in my life then adding more stress because people on the Internet may not like me or things I've said.

And, with that, I reiterate my (originally) final thought on the matter.

-TM

Although it looks lie you're involved in another in fight a correction:

I think it was the only place where more Americans were killed was in Iraq, making Detroit 2nd.

Blame and fault remind me of shame and sin, good/bad, black/white. I am right you are wrong. You will burn in the fires of hell. I have a mansion in the sky with 40 virgins waiting for me. Jesus fucking christ this reminds me of church. I hate church.

The saddest story will be when you hear that Salietha and her daughter were gunned down by her next boyfriend. "I mean, he was wanted for armed robbery in Mississippi but it's not my fault he shot me."

Who gives a fuck about fault?! What about common sense and learning through life experience? I hope that once Salietha heals she will probably be much more selective about future boyfriends. Not because it was in any way her fault, but because it makes sense. I think it's healthy to look at how our decisions affected the outcome of a situation. Sometimes violence happens and there is nothing we could have done to prevent it. But that doesn't mean we can't try.

I am not going to wait around for 911, correctional institutions, the government, or society to get their shit together. I can't judge Salietha. It's not her fault she and her daughter got shot. I hope she and her daughter recover and never have to go through this again. But I will learn from what happened to her.

(Nevertheless, I have had look at why Varukasalt's initial comments resonated so strongly with me and why I got so frustrated with your opposing viewpoint, Flux. My perspective on life is filtered through my experiences as a man.)

Yeah playing the blame game sure is petty, a tragedy did happen afterall. But I see what both sides are saying here...

It just amazes me how often a blind eye is turned towards foresight.

Sure, how would she have known this would have happened, right? And what if he was a really stand-up guy and could be a great father figure for her child? Could she really pass that up? What if she loved the asshole?

Who knows.

But it's just common sense. Take care of yourself and the people you love, and don't associate yourself with no-goodnicks.

Again, it's called foresight. It's partially responsible for allowing us to evolve as much as we have... Which brings me to:

Again, Psychology courses have taught me that memory, pain receptors, and conditioning are what allowed us to evolve as much as we have today.

We won't keep touching the pointy stick if we remember that it damages our body, hurts us, and we don't like how that feels.

So take it as a learning experience... Let's not make the same mistake, here...

Hindsight is crystal clear.

And let's hope for the best for these individuals.

You know, when you're late to the party it is ok to refrain from saying everything that occurs to you.

No factual facts but I think I remember an incident where a police station was broken into and robbed

And I do think that a station on John R. has razor wire around it, and it's not to keep people in.

#1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejJmZHRIzhY

That's just how Otoki rolls.

Holy fuck!! PLEASE LOCK THIS!!!!! I'M IN ENOUGH SHIT ALREADY!!!!!!

PLEASE LOCK THIS SHIT!!!

i agreed with otoki...at first. then i went back and read some more of bitch_phd's threads and realized that no woman ever holds any culpability in any bad situation...ever!!!!