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Tallboy66

Tallboy66

Chicago, IL
January 2005

DEC 09, 2007 09:12 PM

hor said:

Poor Pauline is a sucka. And Ricky is a fucking genius. Accomplished exactly what he set out to do. I've used that trick on at least a dozen little, old ladies. Works every time.



Kinda funny but the truth is if she didn't report him he'll probably do it again and that time the little old lady/man... might not be so lucky.

Pyromethious

Pyromethious

Silver Springs, FL
October 2006

DEC 09, 2007 10:53 PM

This article is really uplifting and well written....But, it could have easily gone south quickly. If someone's taking the risk to hold her up, then he's not much farther away from really pulling the trigger because she pist him off during her refusal.

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

DEC 09, 2007 11:48 PM

78walk said:
Organized religion has been responsible for a lot of really bad stuff in the world ever since the dawn of civilization, but that doesn't change the fact that personal religious belief can be a positive thing in people's lives. Anything that encourages people to look within themselves and try to do the right thing is positive - it's only when it bleeds over into some people trying to control the lives of others that religion becomes a problem for me...


Eh...organized religion hasn't caused shit in the world. People cause wars and use religion to drum up the masses. The Crusades were about land. The Inquisition was about control of the populace through fear. All of the famous wars would have happened anyway. If you didn't have religion you'd just have to come up with something else to get the people behind you, like...I don't know...terrorism or something.

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

DEC 09, 2007 11:55 PM

TheFox said:
Oh, and just a quick look here and here (both .pdf) actually shows that people ages 16-25 account for more accidents and have a higher percentage of people within their age group that are involved in accidents than people in the 75 and older age group. Now, who's making assumptions? whatever


That's probably because there are significantly more 17-25 year old drivers than 75 year old drivers, and they tend to drive recklessly because of their young age (due to a lesser developed pre-frontal cortex and amygdala - neither of which complete development until about age 25).

And they're all drunk.

And getting blow jobs while driving with 12 friends in the car, two of whom are climbing out the sunroof.

Or maybe I'm generalizing.

That's the problem with statistics...they pretty much don't mean shit without all the encompassing data surrounding them.


SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

DEC 09, 2007 11:59 PM

Formus said:

TheFox said:
Just because you're old doesn't mean you're retarded. Just because you're prejudiced... well, that probably does mean you're retarded.


You can't assail an assumptive statement with an even bigger assumptive statement. Besides, the elderly really do have slower reaction times and the tendency toward physical and mental degenerative conditions that do, actually, in reality, make them more dangerous drivers than younger people.



Yeah I was just going to say... Young kids don't get cenile...

And it's not a matter of responsibility. Wouldn't being older, wiser, and more experienced make them more responsible and reliable?

It's a matter of motor skills. And mental health.

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

DEC 10, 2007 12:05 AM

TheFox said:

Chainlink said:
You totally said she sees fine because she's got big glasses. If thats not assumptive then please share your insight into this matter. It's pretty miraculous you can tell from the size of her glasses that she has fine vision.

Let me tell you something. My gram has big glasses too. They're the same big glasses she's had for 25 years. She doesn't see fine. She's got Alzheimer's and forgot to get her prescription updated.



Actually, I meant that her glasses looked fairly small... meaning her prescription is likely not that strong. Geez, people, can't give an old lady some props?? Just because your granny can't see worth a shit and has a sad, degenerative (and genetic - get tested!) disease, doesn't mean that Pauline, here, has the same problems. Also, I know quite a few people who wear glasses AND drive, regardless of age. Holy shit! Take away their licenses, they obviously can't see! eeek

C'mon, now - I was defending this rad lady against somebody's shitty remark, and now I gotta defend myself against you guys? No wonder there's no good news! Apparently people can't fucking handle it.

Don't be hatin' on Pauline. She'll sic Jesus on you. He's in her car, you know. Probably helps her drive, too; sits in the back and keeps an eye out for pedestrians, since she's so old she can't see and all. Jesus is cool, like that.

So why don't you let up on her, okay? And visit your gram... she's going through some tough shit, right now, and it'll do you good to spend some time with her. Could be you in a few decades, and I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Alzheimer's is a terrible thing for anyone to have to go through or witness.



Or...[/b[

We can stop being idiots, take a step back, and realize that someone made a funny crack about driving at 92, and didn't personally attack every old lady in the world.

And as much as you can drone on and on about facts...

Fact of life...

Common knowledge...

Common sense...

Logic dictates...

At 92, you aren't spry.

And I'll Thunderdome the fuck out of any old geezer you toss at me to show you so...

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

DEC 10, 2007 12:07 AM

BurningKrome said:
That's the problem with statistics...they pretty much don't mean shit without all the encompassing data surrounding them.



Oh snap!

SonOfAPunk

SonOfAPunk

Maple Ridge, BC
January 2006

DEC 10, 2007 12:12 AM

BurningKrome said:

78walk said:
Organized religion has been responsible for a lot of really bad stuff in the world ever since the dawn of civilization, but that doesn't change the fact that personal religious belief can be a positive thing in people's lives. Anything that encourages people to look within themselves and try to do the right thing is positive - it's only when it bleeds over into some people trying to control the lives of others that religion becomes a problem for me...


Eh...organized religion hasn't caused shit in the world. People cause wars and use religion to drum up the masses. The Crusades were about land. The Inquisition was about control of the populace through fear. All of the famous wars would have happened anyway. If you didn't have religion you'd just have to come up with something else to get the people behind you, like...I don't know...terrorism or something.



But still, I lose respect for those who are so engulfed in Jesus that they preach it.

Sure, "finding God" is benefitial for a lot of people. Some people can use it. Some need it. It's turned a lot of lives around, sure...

But I'd put faith into my dog before I put faith into some imaginary friend that was started as a ploy to easier gain control over the masses...

Thank you, ZeitGeist and Michael Parenti and Quantum Physics.

I really don't understand the lack of self-respect and self-love one must have before they go "You know what, fuck it, I'm not in charge, I'm not responsible for anything that happens. God is. Yeah, you can't see him. Me neither. But he's there. Don't be a pussy. I'm serious. Oh, by the way... We kind of need to borrow twenty bucks..."

How the FUCK can someone waste their entire life by giving all their faith to something... Anything other than themselves?!

It just fucking perplexes me...

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

DEC 10, 2007 01:47 AM

San Franciscans weighing in on a beloved waterhole in:

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TheFox

TheFox

Durham, NC
February 2006

DEC 10, 2007 05:54 AM

Alright, fine... you guys suck. I'm taking my statistics and going home. It's just not worth it to continue the argument.

Pauline, though, is awesome. I generally get annoyed by the Jeebus noise, but I can respect anyone who is willing to stand his/her ground in this situation. I'd just give the fucker the money and hope I didn't get shot - because I'm a pussy, like that.

Thanks, SleepyLady, for writing a story that I find positive. You rock.

CatWorship

CatWorship

Pottstown, PA
January 2007

DEC 10, 2007 06:44 AM

BurningKrome said:
Eh...organized religion hasn't caused shit in the world. People cause wars and use religion to drum up the masses. The Crusades were about land. The Inquisition was about control of the populace through fear. All of the famous wars would have happened anyway. If you didn't have religion you'd just have to come up with something else to get the people behind you, like...I don't know...terrorism or something.



I assume you're being sarcastic, right? Because terrorism is all about religion.

thefreak

thefreak

NEWSWIRE

Gardner, MA

DEC 10, 2007 07:56 AM

Funny thing is, she was referring to her air freshener.



-TM

TaoAndCoffee

TaoAndCoffee

Stoney Creek, ON
June 2007

DEC 10, 2007 11:45 AM

TheFox said:
Alright, fine... you guys suck. I'm taking my statistics and going home. It's just not worth it to continue the argument.

Pauline, though, is awesome. I generally get annoyed by the Jeebus noise, but I can respect anyone who is willing to stand his/her ground in this situation. I'd just give the fucker the money and hope I didn't get shot - because I'm a pussy, like that.

Thanks, SleepyLady, for writing a story that I find positive. You rock.



Statistics work best in debates as a tool, not the entire argument. You presented them, others refuted them. I stand by what I say, for the same reasons others have mentioned. A 92 year old person can be in fine mental and physical health, but are you going to tell me that they have the same reaction time and physical strength as someone of the age of 30,40 or even 50 or 60? How about you go and look up statistics on physical, mental, and cognitive degeneration associated with age, and get back to us.

It's also pretty funny that you accuse me of being prejudiced and insensitive, and then you refer to her faith, to which I'm willing to bet she's devoted a crapload of those 92 years following, as "Jeebus Noise".

Vidalia

Vidalia

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

DEC 10, 2007 12:02 PM

You do not try to steal $10 from somebody who lived through the depression. Or their piles of rubber bands and paper clips, either.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

DEC 11, 2007 12:06 AM

SonOfAPunk said:

Formus said:

TheFox said:
Just because you're old doesn't mean you're retarded. Just because you're prejudiced... well, that probably does mean you're retarded.


You can't assail an assumptive statement with an even bigger assumptive statement. Besides, the elderly really do have slower reaction times and the tendency toward physical and mental degenerative conditions that do, actually, in reality, make them more dangerous drivers than younger people.



Yeah I was just going to say... Young kids don't get cenile...

And it's not a matter of responsibility. Wouldn't being older, wiser, and more experienced make them more responsible and reliable?

It's a matter of motor skills. And mental health.


Nobody gets cenile, that I'm aware of. Senility tends to be a problem for elderly folks though wink
Yeah, I know, it was pretty lame... but it is after 3am.

BurningKrome

BurningKrome

San Jose, CA
April 2005

DEC 12, 2007 12:49 AM

CatWorship said:

BurningKrome said:
Eh...organized religion hasn't caused shit in the world. People cause wars and use religion to drum up the masses. The Crusades were about land. The Inquisition was about control of the populace through fear. All of the famous wars would have happened anyway. If you didn't have religion you'd just have to come up with something else to get the people behind you, like...I don't know...terrorism or something.



I assume you're being sarcastic, right? Because terrorism is all about religion.


The terrorists I'm assuming you're stereotyping are the Islamic hyper-fundamentalists who find young people who live in an extremely underprivileged portion of world, with little to no employment opportunities, little or no educational opportunities and huge amounts of anger resulting from a lifetime of nearly constant internal and external strife, poverty and barely being able to survive in a harsh environment...and use their religion to convince them to blow themselves up in the name of Islam. And yet the people doing the convincing never seem to blow themselves up and manage to maintain tribal control of huge portions of the country...often by stirring up visions of Islam and convincing others to blow themselves up.

Hmmm...sound familiar yet?

Or were you being sarcastic? I can never tell anymore.

Lemme

Lemme

Pittsburgh, PA
April 2006

DEC 12, 2007 02:38 PM

Wow another person swayed by god and guilt... I mean good for her for using her scary religion to get her outta a sticky/ deadly situation. I would say almost anything to get a crazy fuck out of my car. I can't imagine being that old sitting in my own shit (because that's what I would do if that happened to me, that much I do know, I would shit.) thinking how do I get this dude outta my car so I can get home a soak my dentures.

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