brooklynduc said:
any fake boobs - just don't do it for me. i will not date a woman with breast implants. and it seems that as some women age (around my age) that they are more apt to go for them "to compete" with younger women. its sad.
You have missed the entire point of Bitch_PhD's article, the entire point of the Details article, and most of the ensuing discussion. In fact, you've gone ahead and given an example of the very thing Bitch_PhD was laughing at in her write-up.
I find this amusing.
Seriously Shalome, did you have an extra bowl of Wheaties this morning?
OlafTheTroll said:
Someone I've never heard of sends me an unrequested message concerning something they did which I might find "interesting" based on a rather tangential connection to topics I blogged about? Sorry, but that's spam in my book. You're not seriously thinking Bitch's was the only feminist blog they picked?
Nah, of course not. However, I do see at as above the spam I get asking me if I want to increase my penis size. Which is all I meant (I said it's not really spam. A lot of people who comment (especially those who ask "how exactly is that news?") on articles aren't always great with reading comprehension, and I assumed you thought it was just untargeted spam. It was probably stupid of me to assume that. Apologies.
in the 80s details was a gay magazine. then in the 90s they were a straight magazine. Hmmm...let's see..doesn't like monster gazongas?? Looks like they are gay again!!!
pmonkeyEsquire said:
in the 80s details was a gay magazine. then in the 90s they were a straight magazine. Hmmm...let's see..doesn't like monster gazongas?? Looks like they are gay again!!!
I had never heard of Details before. From that one article alone I would conclude that they must be pretty much equal opportunity misogynists.
I did not read the article and I am taking Bitch_PhD at her word. I would say people stop telling people what to do! Wait, did I just tell people what to do?
DamnedSid thinks that people who tell people what to do are dolts and must be flogged.
God damned people... "enough of the uber boobs" HA. LICK.MY.FUCKING.CRACK.
I'd like the biased, drooling idiot who wrote that article to live one day in my shoes.
Shalome said:
Why does a men's magazine feel the need to address female body image, and is the way they're doing it appropriate?
That to me is the most interesting aspect of this, since the linked article, despite its pretense of feminism, was to me another example of the mainstream media attempting to (re)define an ideal female body image that's defined by the male gaze.
The Details article is really pretty schizophrenic, starting out by stating "no man wants to wrestle with two bloated bags of silicone" and then excoriating women who get implants as "obediently conforming to some caricature of beauty fantasized by traveling-salesman types" and claiming that "That shiny new bosom was fashioned by, and for, men. And you will wear it in public as long as men approve."
So if you get breast implants, you're stupid for pandering to the desires of men, so don't get implants, because men don't think they're sexy? Guh?
Can you really claim to be a "feminist man" if you think that women's body image should be defined entirely by men's desires?
And THAT is what bothered me about the article. It's like guys saying they hate girls with makeup, so girls who don't wear it should feel good. Why? Because dudes find it attractive.
Why should everything that women do be defined by whether or not men like it?
Sadly, I doubt that Details has a good answer to that.
I believe the typical reasoning would go something like
this: men are obsessed with naked women, thus women pose naked to be attractive to men, which plays into (or submits to) the
objectification of women by men. Feminists oppose that objectification, ergo sexualised female nudity and feminism don't mix.
I believe the typical reasoning would go something like
this: men are obsessed with naked women, thus women pose naked to be attractive to men, which plays into (or submits to) the
objectification of women by men. Feminists oppose that objectification, ergo sexualised female nudity and feminism don't mix.
I'm just messin', kids.
Works for me.
If you're really clever, you can probably edit my answer to her follow-up question accordingly and save me a lot of work.
brooklynduc said:
any fake boobs - just don't do it for me. i will not date a woman with breast implants. and it seems that as some women age (around my age) that they are more apt to go for them "to compete" with younger women. its sad.
You have missed the entire point of Bitch_PhD's article, the entire point of the Details article, and most of the ensuing discussion. In fact, you've gone ahead and given an example of the very thing Bitch_PhD was laughing at in her write-up.
I find this amusing.
Yeah, apparently all this discussion went right over this dude's head. WTF?
d20
San Francisco, CA
September 2003
NOV 30, 2007 10:18 AM