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Seiteki

Seiteki

I'm lost
May 2007

NOV 21, 2007 08:08 PM

where i live, in AR, our college doesn't have a clinic, but we have a county health clinic(which sucks in most areas...BUT!) if you go in for a pregnancy test, and aren't pregnant, then you pay a $15-$25 "record keeping fee", and they keep you in birth control for the rest of the year...(you have to pay the "record keeping fee" once a year of course)...any kind of birth control you want too(i've tried out the shot, 2 different kinds of pills, and an IUD before deciding what kind i wanted to use)...and they also send you home with a nice big bag full of condoms...i never knew it was such a big deal.

its kinda nice.

SarahFlower

SarahFlower

USA
September 2007

NOV 21, 2007 08:18 PM

Ugh, once again, another way that the religious right messes everything up for everyone.

Formus

Formus

Milwaukee, WI
May 2007

NOV 21, 2007 10:34 PM

SockPuppet said:

MrOuijaAK said:
We shouldn't be paying for unwanted children either.



What should we do, shoot them?



No no no, we should starve them. It may be more drawn out, but we won't have to pay for any bullets.

grazing_cattle

grazing_cattle

Richmond, MI
August 2007

NOV 22, 2007 01:13 AM

FreakPirate said:
I currently work as a delivery driver and stock boy at a grocery store. Not exactly a high paying position. Over the years I've worked as a warehouse monkey, a dishwasher, a forklift driver and occasionally in the theatre. Like I said, I've had my share of exposure to poor people and have still never seen the kind of stuff you're talking about. Nor have I heard of anything like that from anyone I know.

Therefore I tend to think you're full of shit.




You haven't heard anything like that? Have you been reading the replys here? Nobody cares to stop and think of ways to help, nobody stops and thinks of ways to make up the extra cost for themselves. It must be the goverment's fault, right? If they don't buy it for me, then its their fault I don't have it. I had kids when I was 18. You know what I did? I didn't go running crying to Uncle Sam. I found a job that will pay me enough to servive and give me benifits. They really are not that hard to find.

grazing_cattle

grazing_cattle

Richmond, MI
August 2007

NOV 22, 2007 01:15 AM

Clidna said:

MrOuijaAK said:

MrStitches said:

MrOuijaAK said:

FreakPirate said:

Cairo said:

Well, that didn't take long.



Well heck, let's just get this all over with shall we?

Birth control is a privilege, not a right!!


Condoms are cheap! Use them!


If you don't want to get knocked up you should be responsible enough not to be fucking!


I PAY FULL PRICE FOR MY BC, THE REST OF YOU SHOULD HAVE TO BECAUSE I SAID SO!!



Did I miss any of the stupid shit that's going to come up?



How is it stupid that I don't want to pay for other people's shit?



Because unwanted children a fuck ton more expensive than birth control subsidies? That being the most obvious answer that even a sign language gorilla could figure out.



We shouldn't be paying for unwanted children either. Charities, welfare, etc. etc. Most people in those situations choose to be in them. Barring extenuating circumstances, the government should not be bailing them out. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.



Yeah. We should totally go back to the days when people were dying in the streets and gutters. Things were so much better then. There was no birth control back then, you know.

whatever



Did you just say people where dying in the streets because of the lack of birth control?

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

NOV 24, 2007 01:03 AM

syndeusys said:


This legislation will not cost the taxpayers a single dime



Bullshit the money comes from somewhere



Hmmmm last time I checked birth control is not 10 dollars!!! BC is expensive and depending on what form that you use, can cost up 300 without insurance. Wow, people need really inform themselves before they post nonsense. I wish i could get bc for 10, and many insurance companies no longer cover BC, so how does that work? Mind you have to refill BC every month or every few months. Oh and Legislators make money, Ive never seen one in the checkout counter at my local supermarket or driving themselves to thier local store. So, they are making money doing what now....oh yeah fucking us over.



Are you out of your damn mind first of all you don't need any $300 birth control second I'm pretty sure Bitch_PhD's last article talked about Wal-Mart having BC without insurance for $9. If you don't have $9 a month you probably should be focusing on more important priorities than fucking (that's just me), third I can only think of 1 subsidiary of 1 insurance plan that doesn't cover BC and since I spend all day long filling prescriptions I've got a pretty good idea of how much they cost and how the health insurance works. You might not be able to get your brand name Yaz! or some such stuff but they'll definitely cover multiple generics. Some plans even go so far as to completely eliminate copays on BC.

While I don't agree with eliminating the welfare system there are a ton of people who I see abuse it everyday. They constitute a minority but it's still frustrating.


Mirena IUD = $275 - $375, FYI.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

NOV 24, 2007 01:09 AM

Uncognitive said:

syndeusys said:


Ladies and gentlemen, let's have a big round of applause for False Dilemma and His Logical Fallacies!



I'm sorry lemme just sum it up real succinctly affordable drug coverage is needed across the board. Birth control certainly doesn't rank highest on the list of medicines that should be subsidized.



That's still a logical fallacy, since the federal program in question is not a subsidy, nor does it preclude other prescription drugs being subsidized.

Also, saying that only prescription drugs that have a certain rank on your arbitrary list should be subsidized is pretty ludicrous, as is attaching value judgments onto what medications people have been prescribed.


Not to mention that some women have to be on birth control. I was forced to take the pill at 12 because of extremely heavy periods that put me in bed for 3 or 4 days at a time. There are medical conditions that require women to take hormones, believe it or not.

Clidna

Clidna

Canada
January 2005

NOV 24, 2007 01:25 AM

grazing_cattle said:

Clidna said:

MrOuijaAK said:
We shouldn't be paying for unwanted children either. Charities, welfare, etc. etc. Most people in those situations choose to be in them. Barring extenuating circumstances, the government should not be bailing them out. People need to take responsibility for their own actions.


Yeah. We should totally go back to the days when people were dying in the streets and gutters. Things were so much better then. There was no birth control back then, you know.

whatever


Did you just say people where dying in the streets because of the lack of birth control?


From what I can see, it looks like I was responding to the comment that charities and governments shouldn't be helping anyone. I was being facetious when I tossed in the comment about BC. Thus, the whatever .

FreakPirate

FreakPirate

Canada
November 2002

NOV 24, 2007 12:00 PM

grazing_cattle said:

You haven't heard anything like that? Have you been reading the replys here?



I have never experienced it myself. I have never heard a firsthand account of it from someone who wasn't trying to push a retarded Holden Caulfield, you-chose-to-be-poor agenda.

I had kids when I was 18. You know what I did? I didn't go running crying to Uncle Sam. I found a job that will pay me enough to servive and give me benifits. They really are not that hard to find.



Good for you. However, not everyone is so lucky. Do you have at least a high school education? Emotional support from friends or family? Not everyone does. The world isn't an equal playing field.

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