Ladybug said:
So her mom should have read her mind and magically fixed things.
Damn her.
Not only that, but the father is not expected to be a mind reader, since having a penis apparently gets in the way of clairvoyance. Only mothers are to blame for the acts of their children, the stupid bitches.
XvVectorvX said:
Okay, I understand that what the lady did was horrible...but she should not be to blame.
The only people to be blamed are the parents. I was in a very similar situation as a child (strangely enough, I was 13). I had planned to kill myself. I had everything set in place so that it would happen when no on could intervene. However, my mother felt there was something up. She confronted me about it, and I wouldn't talk. I was ready to die...really ready to die. She wouldn't take no for an answer, and promptly rushed me to my psychiatrists personal residence. I don't remember the exact words the psychiatrist said, but whatever it was, it broke me down. I had a nervous break down and cried for 7 or 8 hours. I cried myself to sleep at the psychiatrists house. I woke up and was asked if I would like to go to a place where they could help me to understand my feelings better. Having just poured all of my being out to my mother and my psychiatrist, I agreed. Had it not been for the treatment that was then administered, I can promise you that I would be worm meat right now. It is because of those acts that i am who i am now today. Someone who can cope with stress, who has a clear sense of what all of my feelings are, and understands how to control my thought process. By the way, my mom is a horrible parent, but she knew something was up and acted accordingly.
So, the only person to blame is the mother. Without a damn doubt she is to blame. If anyone is to be indicted, it should be her for negligence. The other lady may go down for this, but the mother will eternally live in the most horrid of places, her own damn mind that stupid bitch.
With all due respect: you were lucky. So was your mom. Period. Your experience means no less than that--because that's amazing, and I'm glad for you--but neither does it mean anything more than that.
You were lucky. Extremely so, I would say. Not everyone is, and not everyone's parents are. Have some respect--I know you think you're talking about a specific incident here, but I don't doubt that many of us know kids who have killed themselves and are extremely, extremely offended by your strident and ill-informed assertion that their heartbroken parents are somehow to blame. For every case you can find in which that's so, there are countless more in which that's not even close.
XvVectorvX said:
Okay, I understand that what the lady did was horrible...but she should not be to blame.
The only people to be blamed are the parents. I was in a very similar situation as a child (strangely enough, I was 13). I had planned to kill myself. I had everything set in place so that it would happen when no on could intervene. However, my mother felt there was something up. She confronted me about it, and I wouldn't talk. I was ready to die...really ready to die. She wouldn't take no for an answer, and promptly rushed me to my psychiatrists personal residence. I don't remember the exact words the psychiatrist said, but whatever it was, it broke me down. I had a nervous break down and cried for 7 or 8 hours. I cried myself to sleep at the psychiatrists house. I woke up and was asked if I would like to go to a place where they could help me to understand my feelings better. Having just poured all of my being out to my mother and my psychiatrist, I agreed. Had it not been for the treatment that was then administered, I can promise you that I would be worm meat right now. It is because of those acts that i am who i am now today. Someone who can cope with stress, who has a clear sense of what all of my feelings are, and understands how to control my thought process. By the way, my mom is a horrible parent, but she knew something was up and acted accordingly.
So, the only person to blame is the mother. Without a damn doubt she is to blame. If anyone is to be indicted, it should be her for negligence. The other lady may go down for this, but the mother will eternally live in the most horrid of places, her own damn mind that stupid bitch.
With all due respect: you were lucky. So was your mom. Period. Your experience means no less than that--because that's amazing--but neither does it mean more than that.
+1
You were fortunate enough to have a mother who, whatever her failings as a parent, was in touch with your emotional state and cared enough to do something about it when she sensed something was wrong.
If there's one thing the internet will never run out of, it's know-nothing blame-the-victim douchebags. Although it's kind of nice because they always quickly out themselves for the terrible, terrible people that they are.
You can't blame the parents in that way.
I know that personally I was online at that age, my Mum looked at what I was viewing and doing, but I was good at covering my tracks. It seems like this girl actually told her mother what she was doing, she was seeing more of the conversations with this "Josh" than she would of those her daughter had offline with people she went to school with.
Also, it was stated that her parents were aware of her mental issues and she was being medicated. A good many parents do not even notice these issues and put them down to being a moody teenager. To me this shows the parents did take notice and care of their daughter.
Even if the parents could have monitored a little more (which I don't agree with), they were never going to imagine what was going to happen, how can you condemn two parents who allowed their depressed daughter to speak to someone who made her happy. Of course they'd have known if the friendship ended it would be painful, but that is an integral part of growing up.
I don't believe we have any right to condemn these parents, they have lost their daughter through the actionss of a sick twisted woman, who in my opinion should have her own children taken away, how could that possibly be someone who is bringing up her own daughter in a healthy way?
It's worth noting that the jury deadlocked on the felony conspiracy charge, so Drew may be retried for felony conspiracy.
The case and the convictions may also be thrown out entirely on a defense motion not yet decided by the judge. If the current convictions stand, Drew faces a maximum of 3 years prison time and a $300,000 fine.
I missed this story originally, just went through it. What sticks out for me is how judgemental people are towards the kids parents, they might be to blame, or they might not, we really do not know. What does appear to be certain is that the neighbour deserves a lot of blame.
Also this comment:
I know that trauma can tear families apart but I know that it can also bring them together. I find this divorce interesting. Were they having marital problems before? Was Megan depressed because her home life sucked? Were the Meier's hoping that the love of some boy in cyber-space would snap their daughter out of a funk?
Could be it's just a bad judgement call on the writers part, but it does strike me as extreme douchebaggery. I honestly hope SleepyLady and everyone else blindly blaming the parents, to re-evaluate their stance, from what we know I think the mistakes made by the parents (both of them, those blaming just the mom are being sexist as well as douchebags) where just human fuck ups that could happen to anyone.
Wow, that's terrible. That's really serious. I guess 'josh' will spend the rest of her life trying to deal with the guilt though. Thats a punishment in itself. And I wonder if Megan's parents couldn't have done more to notice their daughters' depression and help her. Parents never seem to talk about the difficult stuff with their kids. But maybe they did. Its all really sad.
Anybody considered this woman belongs in a nuthouse? Cyber-bullying at 40-whatever is really not normal... what adult of sound mind would think it's amusing to play mindgames with a depressed child?
I don't think so. Drew may well get off completely. From your link:
Drew's attorneys will be seeking a re-trial on the three misdemeanor counts but are awaiting a decision from U.S. District Judge George Wu who can decide to acquit Drew. If Wu lets the verdict stand, Drew's lawyers plan to appeal the case to the 9th Circuit Court. Legal experts say the court is likely to overturn the jury's verdict on grounds that prosecutors overstepped in using the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to criminally charge a contract breach, which is normally a civil violation.
I don't think so. Drew may well get off completely. From your link:
Drew's attorneys will be seeking a re-trial on the three misdemeanor counts but are awaiting a decision from U.S. District Judge George Wu who can decide to acquit Drew. If Wu lets the verdict stand, Drew's lawyers plan to appeal the case to the 9th Circuit Court. Legal experts say the court is likely to overturn the jury's verdict on grounds that prosecutors overstepped in using the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act to criminally charge a contract breach, which is normally a civil violation.
Cairo
SUICIDEGIRL
Maryland, USA
JUN 23, 2008 05:44 PM