Zarth said:
For the record, most people go into a date - should go into a date - without knowing in advance where, if anywhere, it's going to lead. That's why it's dating and not, say, ordering a wife-slave to be delivered from the Ukraine or the Philippines.
Unfortunately, a lot of people do go into dates with expectations. Which is pretty shitty.
I'm tempted to agree with this guy. I mean, let's assume that this was indeed a legitimate date. The girl knew his age (presumably) and yet agreed to go out with him. I don't know about everyone else out there, but when I ask a girl out, it's with the intention of beginning the process of developing a relationship that ends more or less in a divorce settlement with the wife getting the house and kids, my whole bank account, and 7/8 of my salary before taxes. Oh, sorry, where was I....
Oh yes. So if this was a date then there was an understanding that this is a possible outcome of the date. So the fact that she refused based on his age, she violated the implied contract of the idea of a date. Then again, maybe I'm just jaded by virtue of the fact that I've been on the receiving end of a girl going out with me already knowing nothing would happen just to get a free dinner. And I've heard a small number of girls out there when they don't have money for food or something will go out with a guy just for a free meal.
So maybe we shouldn't be so quick to judge him. Maybe he's standing up for all those slighted guys out there who've been taken advantage of by girls who are using them with no inclination to allow a relationship to develop. That is a breach of contract in my opinion and the girl should be sued at least for the costs involved in the date.
Then again, maybe this guy is just an ass.
I can't even begin to process this.
seriously. whaaaaaoooooah. this is more insane than some of that garbage in the ron paul thread.
Who do you want to bet he's voting for?
MarcMerm said:
I'm glad that my comment, with the exception of Midnyte, opened a constructive dialogue about honesty in dating. My intent wasn't to say that a guy should sue if a girl doesn't put out at the end of the date or a girl looking to get into a relationship and the white picket fences (as Midnyte said) should sue if the guy just wanted sex. It was to say that there is a significant lack of honesty in dating. People date for so many reasons without ever being honest about it and just lead the other person on. This isn't fair to the person being led because it wastes their time, money, and above all else, their psychological resources. How about we start acting like adults when we go out and say this is what I'm looking for out of this. Then again, how do you say on a first date I'm looking for a relationship without the other person getting freaked out that before even a first date you've got plans for marriage... or maybe that's just immaturity speaking.
Ordinarily, I'm reluctant to criticize someone for backpedalling. But if your point was really about "dishonesty" in dating, you failed to make it, and did so in a spectacularly moronic and offensive way.
So the fuck what if you pay for a dinner and don't get a blowjob? Am I really supposed to feel sympathy for you because of that? Are you actually that self-absorbed?
For the record, most people go into a date - should go into a date - without knowing in advance where, if anywhere, it's going to lead. That's why it's dating and not, say, ordering a wife-slave to be delivered from the Ukraine or the Philippines.
Which seems to be what you're likely to end up doing with that attitude.
I'm not saying I want everything scripted. I just want a fair chance at succeeding rather than being used. Likewise I'd like to be able to give someone else a chance and not use them.
I don't know where he's filing said suit, but in the United States, I hope there's some rule of civil procedure that I didn't get to yet in the six weeks before I quit law school that allows a judge to punch an idiot plaintiff in the face.
Necia said:
I don't know where he's filing said suit, but in the United States, I hope there's some rule of civil procedure that I didn't get to yet in the six weeks before I quit law school that allows a judge to punch an idiot plaintiff in the face.
That'd be an FRCP 12(b)(8) motion for dismissal on the grounds of inordinate douche-baggery.
Because your HUSBAND is German you have a right to make fun of Germans? So by that logic, since your husband is married to a woman, he can talk all the shit about women he wants? WTF??? Why even say anything about it? Why make an excuse if you are going to say something shitty then just own it and be proud you said it and don't apologize or otherwise don't say it at all. Do you have friends who are black too?
I'm glad that my comment, with the exception of Midnyte, opened a constructive dialogue about honesty in dating. My intent wasn't to say that a guy should sue if a girl doesn't put out at the end of the date or a girl looking to get into a relationship and the white picket fences (as Midnyte said) should sue if the guy just wanted sex. It was to say that there is a significant lack of honesty in dating. People date for so many reasons without ever being honest about it and just lead the other person on. This isn't fair to the person being led because it wastes their time, money, and above all else, their psychological resources. How about we start acting like adults when we go out and say this is what I'm looking for out of this. Then again, how do you say on a first date I'm looking for a relationship without the other person getting freaked out that before even a first date you've got plans for marriage... or maybe that's just immaturity speaking.
The problem with this is that what you are looking for on a date may not necessarily be the same at the beginning of the date as it is at the end, depending on how you get along, what you have in common, etc. You might start a date with the single intention of getting laid, and then discover that the other person is your soulmate. Or, you might find out that the other person has slept with 400 hundred people without protection, and you don't want to partake in the STD's. Or, you might go out with a person that's not really your type (ie. too old) to be nice and give him a chance, and then find out that he's a complete douchebag who expects to get laid because he wined and dined you, and then sues because you didn't put out.
Q_
Columbus, OH
June 2006
OCT 30, 2007 09:12 AM