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OCT 23, 2007 10:48 AM
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OCT 23, 2007 05:55 PM
abracadabra said:
To quote Aldous Huxley and Eleanor Roosevelt , speaking of our great nation..."No nation in the long history of civilization has been more violently destructive of its life-supporting resources than the United States of America--that 'country of great illusion ,' the country that can 'feed the world .' " And this was in 1948 .
And abortion, safe or unsafe, legal or illegal, is a "life-supporting resource", how? Oh, right, it's all subjective, anyway...never mind....what was I thinking! 
OCT 23, 2007 05:57 PM
Gylrek said:
wouldn't the money be better spent in the US? I don't think we should worry about health issues in other countries until we take care of our own! Why are there free clinics funded by tax payers to handle "women health issues" but not clinics for men? I call that an unfair policy .If men have to fund their own health why shouldn't the same be expected of women? Are you saying women are incapable or that they shouldn't be held responsible?
+1, and as a female....
abracadabra
Seattle, WA
April 2004
OCT 23, 2007 07:25 PM
Rude_Ruca said:
abracadabra said:
To quote Aldous Huxley and Eleanor Roosevelt , speaking of our great nation..."No nation in the long history of civilization has been more violently destructive of its life-supporting resources than the United States of America--that 'country of great illusion ,' the country that can 'feed the world .' " And this was in 1948 .
And abortion, safe or unsafe, legal or illegal, is a "life-supporting resource", how? Oh, right, it's all subjective, anyway...never mind....what was I thinking!
Actually , womens rights to adequate health services , to be more specific for you .
OCT 23, 2007 07:49 PM
abracadabra said:
Rude_Ruca said:
abracadabra said:
To quote Aldous Huxley and Eleanor Roosevelt , speaking of our great nation..."No nation in the long history of civilization has been more violently destructive of its life-supporting resources than the United States of America--that 'country of great illusion ,' the country that can 'feed the world .' " And this was in 1948 .
And abortion, safe or unsafe, legal or illegal, is a "life-supporting resource", how? Oh, right, it's all subjective, anyway...never mind....what was I thinking!
Actually , womens rights to adequate health services , to be more specific for you .
...but in the United States. I don't understand, as a tax payer, why I must fund something that I may or may not believe in. And, while I can say I lean a bit more towards pro-choice, it/abortion should still be a privately funded endeavor. Feeding the world and providing women with safe abortion practices are two TOTALLY different things. Really. And, what kills me even still is that you would post a critical quote like this while still insisting that the US pay for these services. That is something I'll never get....foregin countries seem to be insistent upon the US providing aid, yet some of them are the first to criticize and go into detail about the US being a selfish nation if it doesn't feel it's getting enough....there is always more that we, the US can do, sure, but is it really fair to criticize a nation that is in the same breath being made requests from? 
OCT 23, 2007 10:29 PM
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OCT 24, 2007 07:21 PM
Clidna said:
Rude_Ruca said:
...but in the United States. I don't understand, as a tax payer, why I must fund something that I may or may not believe in.
I hate this argument - if the guy next door to you doesn't believe in funding police, should it be cut off? Part of living in a modern society is accepting that your tax money is not necessarily going to be spent the way any particular individual wants it to be.
No, not if the guy "next door" happens to live in the same country! And again, comparing police to safe abortion practice.....um yeah, apples and oranges....
OCT 24, 2007 07:41 PM
abracadabra said:
Rude_Ruca said:
abracadabra said:
To quote Aldous Huxley and Eleanor Roosevelt , speaking of our great nation..."No nation in the long history of civilization has been more violently destructive of its life-supporting resources than the United States of America--that 'country of great illusion ,' the country that can 'feed the world .' " And this was in 1948 .
And abortion, safe or unsafe, legal or illegal, is a "life-supporting resource", how? Oh, right, it's all subjective, anyway...never mind....what was I thinking!
Actually , womens rights to adequate health services , to be more specific for you .
That sounds like a euphemism Frank Luntz would have come up with if he were liberal. When you try to frame the debate like that, you're not going to get through to the other side. Not that you're trying to, but yeah. Take it from a pro-choicer who knows a lot of pro-lifers. When you equate an elective abortion to receiving a necessary organ transplant, or whatever else could be categorized as "adequate health care", you're not going to get through.
Gylrek
Chula Vista, CA
August 2007
OCT 23, 2007 10:41 AM