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Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

OCT 12, 2007 12:08 PM



Let me begin by saying that I don't play the Halo games--I think I'm one of about 6 people on the planet that don't. I just don't dig 'em; first-person shooters aren't my thing (except GoldenEye). But I realize that a lot of people play and enjoy the games, especially the recently released Halo 3. They're insanely popular. So much so that churches are using them as recruitment and teaching tools.

Strange bedfellows, huh? A violent video game and religion. But it's true. The article discusses the use of the video game by youth ministers to reach out to young men and boys, and to get them to come to church and read/study/believe in The Good Word.


Witness the basement on a recent Sunday at the Colorado Community Church in the Englewood area of Denver, where Tim Foster, 12, and Chris Graham, 14, sat in front of three TVs, locked in violent virtual combat as they navigated on-screen characters through lethal gun bursts. Tim explained the game’s allure: “It’s just fun blowing people up.”

Once they come for the games, Gregg Barbour, the youth minister of the church said, they will stay for his Christian message. “We want to make it hard for teenagers to go to hell,” Mr. Barbour wrote in a letter to parents at the church.



Well said Tim, well said. And as for Mr. Barbour, I don't know if you keep up with the kids these days, but it seems they're doing everything in their power to go to Hell, as it were. Not like when I was a kid.

But that's the thing: churches want to appear cool and hip and "with it" in order to grab the youth market (any good marketing exec will tell you that), because the children are our future, I suppose. I really don't understand why they want to go after the kids. Don't they already have enough people as it is? Besides, all the kids want is to get laid ASAP, and as often as possible. And last time I checked, that's against nearly every religious doctrine on the planet (I'm unsure about Discordianism--can someone check that?).

On the other hand, they're worried that by sponsoring Halo nights at their churches, they are approving and encouraging violence, and indoctrinating kids with those warped values. Umm, yeah. In that little book called the Bible (and other religious texts, I assume), there's plenty of violence that can outshine Halo: tribes killing tribes, beheadings, sacrifices, et cetera. And ministers encourage belief in these scriptures! But I can understand their worries. It is a tricky balancing act. Do we want more followers or do we want to endorse something that's against our values?


“If you want to connect with young teenage boys and drag them into church, free alcohol and pornographic movies would do it,” said James Tonkowich, president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, a nonprofit group that assesses denominational policies. “My own take is you can do better than that.”



Someone should start a church based on alcohol and porno, IMHO. But I digress. There is a big market in today's youth for these churches, and they want to make the most of it. But they're fighting against a lot of other distractions: other video games, girls, peer pressure, MTV, drugs & alcohol, girls, school, girls, their parents' deteriorating marriage, and girls. Looking at it from that point of view, using Halo 3 as bait to enter into God's House is a clever idea.


David Drexler, youth director at the 200-member nondenominational Country Bible Church in Ashby, Minn., said using Halo to recruit was “the most effective thing we’ve done.”

In rural Minnesota, Mr. Drexler said, the church needs something powerful to compete against the lure of less healthy behaviors. “We have to find something that these kids are interested in doing that doesn’t involve drugs or alcohol or premarital sex.” His congregation plans to double to eight its number of TVs, which would allow 32 players to compete at one time.



But the taste isn't at sweet to some people, kinda like artichokes and peanut butter. Many parents and ministers are still debating whether they like it or not.


Daniel R. Heimbach, a professor of Christian ethics at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, believes that churches should reject Halo, in part because it associates thrill and arousal with killing.

“To justify whatever killing is involved by saying that it’s just pixels involved is an illusion,” he said.

Focus on the Family, a large evangelical organization, said it was trying to balance the game’s violent nature with its popularity and the fact that churches are using it anyway. “Internally, we’re still trying to figure out what is our official view on it,” said Lisa Anderson, a spokeswoman for the group.



But in today's Enlightened times, we have to wow the kids with all we've got to get them to listen. Just go and watch Transformers. Or listen to Tom Cruise yap about Scientology.


Ken Kenerly, 43, is a pastor who recently started a church in Atlanta and previously started the Family Church in Albuquerque, N.M., where quarterly Halo nights were such a big social event that he had to rent additional big-screen TVs.

Ken Kenerly said he believed that the game could be useful in connecting to young people he once might have reached in more traditional ways, like playing sports. “There aren’t as many kids outdoors as indoors,” he said. “With gamers, how else can you get into their lives?”

John Robison, the current associate pastor at the 300-member Albuquerque church, said parents approached him and were concerned about the Halo games’ M rating. “We explain we’re using it as a tool to be relatable and relevant,” he said, “and most people get over it pretty quick.”



I guess in the end, you've got to do everything you can to stay afloat, especially in what can be perceived as dark and troubling times. And these churches are doing exactly that, just as they have done many times before, with various methods. I am not condemning nor am I condoning their methods and their messages. I'm just saying that the internal debates on their choices is really interesting. They want to stick to their guns, which is a noble effort, and keep their voices loud and able to be heard. But in today's even-louder, fast-paced, "secular" society, some sacrifices have to be made...a sort-of "deal with the Devil," if you will. We'll see.

Personally, I would've used one of the myriad Mario games. Now there's a classic story of good versus evil. Fuck Bowser.

Toku666

Toku666

Columbus, OH
May 2004

OCT 12, 2007 12:25 PM

It's very interesting to see that Focus On the Family didn't have an immediate, knee-jerk reaction to this.

It could be even more interesting to do some digging there and figure out why. I wonder if there are any paper trails between Microsoft and FotF, because that would be utterly terrifying.

sarahg

sarahg

I'm lost
November 2004

OCT 12, 2007 12:29 PM

Toku666 said:
I wonder if there are any paper trails between Microsoft and FotF, because that would be utterly terrifying.



Good God. Don't even suggest it. *shudder*

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

OCT 12, 2007 12:31 PM

Take out the God part and it's a great idea!

wink84

wink84

Fulton, MO
October 2007

OCT 12, 2007 12:42 PM

Whatever happened to good-old fashioned "Go to church or the Devil will gettcha?" that was used when I was a kid? Now they have to use bribery instead of fear?

bekindtomonkeys

bekindtomonkeys

Denton, TX
October 2007

OCT 12, 2007 12:43 PM

And as for Mr. Barbour, I don't know if you keep up with the kids these days, but it seems they're doing everything in their power to go to Hell, as it were.



Hahaha...this made me laugh.

Karuna

Karuna

Butler, PA
April 2007

OCT 12, 2007 12:44 PM

hmm... interesting article, but Master Chief would kick God's ass.

Skywisdom

Skywisdom

Portland, OR
December 2005

OCT 12, 2007 12:50 PM

Ew, combining Halo and Church? I don't give a crap about the moral objections to that, but I would just as soon stay away from that combination. I don't know which I like less.

KMatt

KMatt

Royal Oak, MI
February 2006

OCT 12, 2007 12:53 PM

Well, I say use whatever works to get kids into church. A pizza and beer (and strippers if its in the budget) night sounds good to me.

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

OCT 12, 2007 01:10 PM


Master Chief will kick Gods ass.

There.

I said it.







too.

ardour

ardour

Ottawa, ON
March 2006

OCT 12, 2007 01:27 PM

No one really seems to pay much attention to video game ratings, it seems.

teddy__kgb

teddy__kgb

Albuquerque, NM
February 2007

OCT 12, 2007 01:40 PM

if playing halo supresses anybody's urge to committ violent acts in the real world (which i've heard fans of violent video games cop to), then god can thank masterchief, or whatever his name is. except there is no god. oops.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

OCT 12, 2007 01:44 PM

i grew up in texas, so i'm well accustomed to evangelism through church-sponsored activities for teens, except in my day it was movie night and air hockey and galaxy bowling.

it's just the whole proselytizing aspect that i don't get. why do they have to ply the kids with anything? these people act like used car salesmen.

give me judaism any day; i like my clubs a little more exclusive.

Uncognitive

Uncognitive

Brooklyn, NY
May 2003

OCT 12, 2007 01:56 PM

The odd thing to me about this is that most overt references to religion in the Halo games are uniformly negative.

The Covenant are depicted as religious fanatics who will risk destroying all sentient life in the universe in order to fulfill a religious prophecy. Breaking away from that mindless form of religious fervor is presented as a redeeming feature in Halo 2 and 3.

TaoAndCoffee

TaoAndCoffee

Stoney Creek, ON
June 2007

OCT 12, 2007 02:02 PM

You, me... that leaves 4 more people on the planet who don't like Halo.
hmmm... the missus doesn't like Halo either. 3.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 12, 2007 02:09 PM

Halo 3 is a disappointment.

DucksAreCrazy

DucksAreCrazy

Lexington, KY
December 2006

OCT 12, 2007 02:47 PM

2 left. I've never played Halo either.

XamaX_is_Dead

XamaX_is_Dead

La Mesa, CA
March 2007

OCT 12, 2007 02:53 PM

SixBoxes said:
You, me... that leaves 4 more people on the planet who don't like Halo.
hmmm... the missus doesn't like Halo either. 3.



i'm not a big halo fan either, and i think Gears of War kicks the crap out of halo 3.

as i am a former teen church goer myself i think it is a great idea to get kids into church using video games. Church can be a great place to interact with kids outside of school, and truth be told, even though i saw kids at school more (football practice and every day in class) my best friends, and core group of friends was frommy church, and we were geeky as hell so video games would have been right up our alley, or a D&D night or a WOW night!!!! WOW! it would be really ironic to see a D&D night seeing as how some church goers still believe to this very day that D&D players are all deviants and satan worshippers who do human sacrifice. no shit, i was in school several months ago and i mentioned that i used to roleplay and this lady started spouting all this bullshit about how they (D&D players) all worship satan and go on killing spress and shit, and i just started laughing, and used myself as an example of who normal D&D players can be... then she started laughing... bitch. but yeah, if the church sponored a D&D night ever, i would laugh my ass off and go to my nearest church to reak some havoc on the tables!!!

Luddite

Luddite

Anderson, CA
December 2005

OCT 12, 2007 03:01 PM

Guess I'm number 6, Its only a fancy multiplayer game in a pretty package

apesamongus

apesamongus

Atlanta, GA
July 2002

OCT 12, 2007 03:22 PM

wink84 said:
Whatever happened to good-old fashioned "Go to church or the Devil will gettcha?" that was used when I was a kid? Now they have to use bribery instead of fear?


Well, the pull is getting weaker, and bribery often works better than fear.

Saraah

Saraah

Los Angeles, CA
March 2007

OCT 12, 2007 03:39 PM

The thing I don't get is the choice of game. I love Halo. I've been playing it every night. But I am a grown up. And it IS an M-rated game. As a (left-leaning, atheistic) hypothetical parent, I wouldn't be letting my 12-year old play Halo to begin with, so it's really shocking to me that any church would be using it as a "recruiting" tool.

I know that the rest of America, religious or not, doesn't agree with me, since I am continually being called a "faggot" by 13 year old boys on Xbox Live. But still.

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

OCT 12, 2007 03:40 PM

The fact that religions have to manipulate people into believing disgusts me anyway.

FearTheReaper

FearTheReaper

NEWSWIRE

I'm lost

OCT 12, 2007 04:50 PM

Saraah said:


I know that the rest of America, religious or not, doesn't agree with me, since I am continually being called a "faggot" by 13 year old boys on Xbox Live. But still.



To be fair, Saraah, you are a faggot.

MrCrisp

MrCrisp

I'm lost
August 2004

OCT 12, 2007 04:54 PM

FearTheReaper said:
Halo 3 is a disappointment.



so is jesus.

you hear that, lord? hurry up already! jesus christ!

Nimbusfool

Nimbusfool

Moscow, ID
August 2006

OCT 12, 2007 05:40 PM



Strange bedfellows, huh? A violent video game and religion. But it's true



see history of monotheistic religion.

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