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Rahodeb

Rahodeb

Los Angeles, CA
March 2006

OCT 12, 2007 12:04 PM





The question isn't if the machines will take over, it's when and where. The answer? Now, and in the supermarket. Apparently we've all grown so feeble-minded that we're incapable of reading ingredients lists. Likewise, we seem to be having trouble with the concept of "too much" when it comes to junk food. The solution? Literacy mentoring? Help from a nutritionist? Puhleez. The solution, obviously, is to let someone else do the thinking for us--ideally a smart cart.

The next time you're at the grocery store and load your shopping cart with potato chips, ice cream, and other junk food, your cart may try and make you feel guilty. Reuters reports that "intelligent" shopping carts (or "trolleys" as they're also known as), will warn shoppers if they're buying too much junk food. These high-tech carts will sport a computer screen and barcode scanner. Each time you place an item in the cart, it will read each product's bar code and give you nutritional information, ethical sourcing, and if that product's packaging is good for the environment.

As Engadget notes, various attemps have been made to build a viable smart cart over the years, but this one--built around a simple barcode--might actually take off.

Unlike previous concepts, the EDS model is built around the humble bar code: swiping items as you place them in your cart lets you keep a running tally of nutritional information, ethical sourcing, and environmental impact, letting you modify your purchasing decisions simply and quickly. Keeping it simple might be the winning strategy here, but we're not going to be convinced until the carts at our local can do more than just veer straight left.

I'm really not some neo-Luddite opposed to this sort of technology overall. In fact, I'm all for technology that enhances convenience and facilitates our ability to gather information, learn, and grow. But this just strikes me as a cop out. Carts that scan each item, keep "a running total of how much you are spending _ and actually eliminate the need to wait in line at the check-out" sound great, and guess what: they already exist.



Shopping carts that do the thinking for you, though, don't make anybody smarter, and don't really address the dangerous disconnect between people and the stuff we call food. People who need a smart cart to tell them when they've loaded up with too many bags of chips, cartons of cookies, and tubs of ice cream have a bigger problem than a barcode scanner can fix.

reypulque

reypulque

I'm lost
October 2007

OCT 13, 2007 04:18 PM

You know, if I am gonna be hounded by a wise-cracking robot, I better be in a spaceship. Though to be fair, us fatsos can't get enough advice on how dangerous our food is, but it sounds so much more like concern and less like judgement when it comes from a stranger in a Safeway.

Vestril

Vestril

Coronado, CA
February 2003

OCT 13, 2007 04:30 PM

It'd be pretty funny if, after a certain point, it started blaring alerts if it detected other shopping carts within a certain range. "Warning, this one's a real fatass," "Wide load, comin' through," or "Make sure fatso here doesn't grab anything out of your cart."

travisaurusrex

travisaurusrex

Portland, OR
August 2007

OCT 13, 2007 04:40 PM

Fuck me the movie Idiocracy really is coming true.

Niobe

Niobe

Morocco
April 2003

OCT 13, 2007 05:04 PM

Can't you just not scan the item before placing it in the cart?

SockPuppet

SockPuppet

I'm lost
July 2006

OCT 13, 2007 05:25 PM

I am not seeing a difference between this and letting the media make your political decisions for you.

FunkySkunk

FunkySkunk

Gainesville, FL
July 2004

OCT 13, 2007 05:38 PM

i am in relatively good shape and one of the things i tell people when they ask for advice is to learn how to read labels. just because something says healthIER doesn't mean its healthy. theres lots of little tricks the companies use such as serving size (yeah, cuz im really going to drink a single soda on 2.5 seperate occasions or eat 6 tortilla chips) as well as "natural' flavors being a huge blanket cop out for any flavoring that isn't 100% chemically made. Inversely, things with alot of calories and fat *such as nuts* aren't junk food as they are high in good fats and vitamins. Oh, and compare labels since certain competitive products have a huge difference in nutritional value due to the way they process their foods. yeah I'm that guy in the store reading labels blush it works though. If your trying to be healthier just make sure that everything you eat justifies itself (providing a vitamin, protein, fiber, calcium, etc) and you'll be fine.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

OCT 13, 2007 05:40 PM

Am I the only one that doesn't see this as a bad idea? With so many different products and companies out there, being an informed consumer (which I feel is very important--especially in a extremely capitalistic community) is becoming increasingly difficult, if not a full time job. For those who would like to be informed consumers, but don't have copious amounts of time to research different companies this doesn't seem like such a bad idea. Keep in mind, I'm focusing on the ethical/environmentally friendly factors not the "you're a fatass and should by less potato chips" part.

flabajaba2213

flabajaba2213

Bristol, RI
July 2006

OCT 13, 2007 05:42 PM

Vestril said:
It'd be pretty funny if, after a certain point, it started blaring alerts if it detected other shopping carts within a certain range. "Warning, this one's a real fatass," "Wide load, comin' through," or "Make sure fatso here doesn't grab anything out of your cart."



"Beef or chicken? Beef or chicken? How about both!?"
-Tucker Max

buzzsaw71

buzzsaw71

Blowing Rock, NC
February 2005

OCT 13, 2007 06:00 PM

I don't think it's such a bad idea, but I think the better solution might be spending these resources on eliminating the production of unhealthy food.

bald_eagle

bald_eagle

Indianapolis, IN
November 2006

OCT 13, 2007 06:28 PM

I can see a lot of these things getting accidentally broken.

legman

legman

Portland, OR
February 2006

OCT 13, 2007 06:45 PM

It wouldn't make sense for stores to have these things, they WANT people to buy their product, including junk food!

Chainlink

Chainlink

Key West, FL
August 2005

OCT 13, 2007 07:10 PM

emotedcreations said:
Am I the only one that doesn't see this as a bad idea? With so many different products and companies out there, being an informed consumer (which I feel is very important--especially in a extremely capitalistic community) is becoming increasingly difficult, if not a full time job. For those who would like to be informed consumers, but don't have copious amounts of time to research different companies this doesn't seem like such a bad idea. Keep in mind, I'm focusing on the ethical/environmentally friendly factors not the "you're a fatass and should by less potato chips" part.



I agree.

emotedcreations

emotedcreations

Germany
July 2006

OCT 13, 2007 07:15 PM

Dick_skin_suit said:

emotedcreations said:
Am I the only one that doesn't see this as a bad idea?...

I agree.

And to a further extent, if this got companies competing to be more ethically/environmentally friendly, how great would that be?

dreamergirl

dreamergirl

Ireland
September 2007

OCT 13, 2007 07:41 PM

travisaurusrex said:
Fuck me the movie Idiocracy really is coming true.




Exactly

SirLoins

SirLoins

Killeen, TX
October 2005

OCT 13, 2007 08:50 PM

I steal from grocery stores. I'll put something in the cart, then into my pockets when no one is looking (or I can get to an isolated part of the store)... will the cart know?

Also, what about homeless people who steal these carts. Will they be lojacked?

sidious500

sidious500

Oxford, MS
March 2007

OCT 13, 2007 09:00 PM

I can't possibly see this being a commercial success. Unless these carts are legislated into place, I give them about 5 minutes. A computerized shopping cart is extremely costly (plus, you have to buy a good 150 of them per store), and it's intrusive to the customer. Plus, what store owner in his right mind is going to voluntarily buy a machine that will lead to fewer sales (at least in the beginning)? If this were going to happen at all, wouldn't it have happened already? We can do it now. Why not just hire a guy to walk around the store with each customer and yell a them for buying the wrong product? Because from a business perspective, it's a bad fucking idea, that's why.

shapeshifter23

shapeshifter23

San Francisco, CA
September 2005

OCT 13, 2007 09:02 PM

Something tells me that the management of most retail food markets is not really wanna go whole hog on a new technology (Whole Food Market, perhaps) that makes shoppers feel guilty or give second thoughts to impulse purchasing, since it is most likely gonna mean less sales and therefore less profits. I could be wrong...

Better living through technology? More like a means for some high-tech company to sell more gadgets and make money while convincing retailers and consumers that we're better off for using all the latest technological advances.

People need to educate themselves and learn how to make informed decisions. That means buying food that is less processed, less packaged, with fewer chemicals, organically/sustainably & locally grown/in season, produced in a 'fair trade' manner where farmers and farmworkers are paid well for their labor. Organic certification, fair trade and sustainable commerce labeling that are stringent and standardized... these are things that we ought to be paying attention to and encouraging with our choices we make at the checkout line. I don't think a computerized shopping cart is going to educate me about how much oil it took to produce an organic frozen pet food packaged in New Zealand and shipped by air in freezer compartments, or heavy cases of glass-bottled water from artesian wells in Fiji or Italy shipped across the oceans to California.

It's really pretty simple. Eat as naturally as you can: local grown, minimally processed, and in season. I don't need a chemist or a nutritionist or a computer to figure it out. If that's too much for shoppers to want to think about, then they probably don't care about it anyway...

Clidna

Clidna

Emo, ON
January 2005

OCT 13, 2007 09:05 PM

Carts that scan each item, keep "a running total of how much you are spending _ and actually eliminate the need to wait in line at the check-out" sound great, and guess what: they already exist.

Sweet!

Each time you place an item in the cart, it will read each product's bar code and give you nutritional information...

Get bent. I can read...

emperorreagan

emperorreagan

Baltimore, MD
January 2004

OCT 13, 2007 09:58 PM

Won't matter to me, because i just buy what I need for a day instead of wasting a ton of money on refrigeration.

I don't usually even have to bother with a basket, much less a cart.

stop_the_future

stop_the_future

Moscow, ID
August 2006

OCT 14, 2007 12:40 AM

curious how these would respond when a cart is filled with alcohol like 90% percent of them were tonight (homecoming go vandals! get drunk). Smart-cart knows that you have a drinking problem and play too much beer pong with shitty beer and makes you feel bad about yourself?

Cliche_Guevara

Cliche_Guevara

Australia
January 2006

OCT 14, 2007 04:17 AM

So what's the cart going to say when you buy a bottle of baby oil, whipped cream and a Lebanese cucumber???

lock

lock

United Kingdom
December 2003

OCT 14, 2007 04:54 AM

travisaurusrex said:
Fuck me the movie Idiocracy really is coming true.



I'm starting to think it really is inevitable eeek

thisdistance

thisdistance

Steubenville, OH
June 2007

OCT 14, 2007 11:35 AM

Ooook if America hasn't gotten the point they're fat already, a cart isn't going to change their mind. you don't even need carts for Big Mac and Whoppers now do ya?

if i were a fatass and my buggy told me 'hey those Cakesters are going straight to your ass, hippo' i'd "accidentally" heinously murder it.
then enjoy my cakesters
CAUSE THEY BOMB<33

Platypus_C

Platypus_C

West Lafayette, IN
August 2004

OCT 14, 2007 01:41 PM

okay, really know, this is a pointless idea. if people aren't going to read the label before they stick their food in the cart, why would they read their cart scanner thingy? and making people feel shitty about getting a tasty snack that might not be 100% good for you isn't going to do anything but make people feel shitty about themselves. how is that helpful? if you're eating too much crappy food, you're already feeling bad about yourself...why make it worse? do people really think this is going to push them over the edge to stop eating crap and turn their life around? and honestly, if you don't care enough to read the label, like you're going to care enough to make sure everything you put into your cart gets scanned.

and frankly, if a fucking shopping cart tried to make me feel bad about eating my mint choc. chip ice cream, i'd find the cart's ass and shove the scanner up it.

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