NEWS: Domestic Violence and Pregnancy

I like you, at least your thinking.

That is part of the problem if not the whole.
If it's about womens choice then why do they choose that. (Abusers, etc.)

Yr saying that men hitting women is not the problem?

Here's a tip: If your boyfriend is actively trying to get you pregnant against your will -- STOP FUCKING HIM!

the statics are universal. In relationships which involve the male being tormented or abused the statistic still remains of the abuser(in this case female) performing acts like collecting used condoms for sperm storage,...falsely stating they were on birth control, drug inducing and sperm harvesting...this topic takes a female victim/male abuser stance...but the statics are still true in the reverse....it simply speaks of another level of control abusers take to try and control their victims.
a lot of people seem to feel that bitch ph.d is rather negative towards men. If you read the articles she writes about on this site, then you will realise it is about abusers...if you are male and not an abuser, then i don't see why you should feel offended..or feel she is attacking males...she is attacking male abusers. There is a big difference.
The only shame about the articles is that they are on s.g. which is not the biggest forum in the world...to most people here it is just a titty site and they would never read the articles..also on a reverse edge, a lot of pro feminine organisations would damn her for being on such a site which displays openly naked women with the mantra "we redefine....." her commentary would have a larger impact on a bigger forum....it would also have more cred if not on a site of where some of its former members have actively spoken out about being verbally abused and called "stupid sluts who'll strip $300" ..to comment on abuse on a site of where members have spoken of such abuse only reaffirms that her articles are on the wrong site.

You're assuming that men who happen to be abusive assholes aren't also able to hide their abusive behavior during the early stages of a relationship.

So saying "Why do women choose to enter into relationships with abusive assholes?" is besides the point. Finding out why women stay in abusive relationships is question that applies more to the real world.

there is enough govt involvement in our lives. what exactly are you proposing? forcing assholes too " just be nice"? what world do you live in?

WHY DO THEY CHOOSE ABUSIVE MEN? That's hysterical.

This has been studied fairly thoroughly, and most studies couldn't find a common psychological factor. There is a slight amount of evidence that being sexually abused in childhood puts a woman at greater risk for a DV relationship, but this is by no means a strong causal factor.

Most DV isn't like a Lifetime miniseries. It's less frequent, and the violence comes out over years, not weeks. The kind of offender most people think of when they think of DV is really only a reality in about half of cases. The other half are high-conflict couples where both have difficulty controlling their emotions. In the cases where the guy is a complete asshole, he puts a lot of careful effort into breaking down the woman emotionally, socially, and financially, as well as physically. There are relationships that are clearly DV where the man never has to throw a punch. This usually occurs slowly, over time, so its barely perceptible to the woman.

When I was in graduate school, one of the books for my DV treatment class was called "It could happen to anyone." (LaViolette). It really can. We want to believe it wouldn't be us . . . we would never find ourselves there . . . but you simply can't say that. After you listen to story after story, you come to understand that you're not stronger, or better. You're just fucking luckier.

Did you will yourself to be that ignorant or does it come natural?

What about greater subsidies for women's shelters, so that leaving one's husband doesn't look like a one way ticket to skid row? Or taking a hard line stance against police departments that routinely ignore domestic violence? Or job training/placement for newly single mothers? After all, single mother households account for over half of all households living under the poverty line. So clearly that is a segment of the population that is harming our economy. It would, in fact, be an economic boon to the country to help such women.

This study highlights this abusive phenomena and what is even more tragic is what happens down the road when they ARE pregnant with this type of idiot's spawn:

Pregnant women overall are more likely to be victims of domestic violence than non-pregnant women stats

and

women with abusive partners are at greater risk for homicide during and after pregnancy than those who stay


so sounds like that idiot who pushes for the pregnancy finds that this indeed does not make him "happy"

I am saying that's a problem but a problem is also why women choose those type of guys.

You know what, defensive guy? Those stories get written ALL THE TIME by OTHER PEOPLE.

When the mainstream media starts covering reproductive and women's rights issues with the same fervor that it goes after the Susan Smiths and Andrea Yateses, then I'll stfu.

Untiil then, bite me.

And anyone else who wants to turn a post about domestic violence into a referendum on me, personally, can bite me as well. Way to focus on the really important issues here, people.

So, your point is that she unfairly generalized about "grownup men who think it would be cool to own a rape doll?"

Can you even really call that a generalization?

I'm asking the question in all sincerity.