NEWS: C'mon, Just Admit You Love Dog Fighting, Already

CELEB: C'mon, Just Admit You Love Dog Fighting, Already

I don't care for football, and am even less of a dog-fighting aficionado, so I didn’t pay a ton of attention to the Michael Vick situation. I knew the charges, and that a lot of people stuck by him, convinced he’d be vindicated… And then today I saw the following.

Already? Redeem him for what? I’m not advocating the abuse of dogs but what aspect of dog fighting has changed in the months since you were arrested? Didn’t you love it a few months ago? Obviously, what’s changed is he got caught and has been advised by a publicist/lawyer to go this route. Whatever happened to standing by your beliefs? Having some conviction?

Maybe that sounds crazy but I would honestly prefer it to yet another asinine round of 1) celeb fucks up 2) celeb repents, instantly realizing the error of their ways 3) celeb returns bigger than ever.

Just admit you love the shit out of dog fighting. Or tell us why we’re wrong. Or, I don’t know… something that isn’t clearly a huge manufactured lie? We KNOW he was for it very recently. Why let him lie about it and act as if he’s being sincere here.

Of course... Of course you have. The other huge celeb re-hab component, Jesus.

Finding Jesus after a situation like this is basically saying, “I did something so heinous that NO OTHER PERSON ON EARTH stood by me, I fucked up everything with everyone, so badly, that I had no choice but to go to that guy who HAS to accept me, according to that book he uses. The Beeble. What? Oh, shit, it’s pronounced "Bible"?

Jesus really needs to bust out the fake glasses and floppy hat so he can start ducking these guys. Too many people "find him."

The Falcons said they do not plan to immediately cut Vick and are sorting through their options.

Wow. Is he actually talking about football? “Well, we could but… I do love making money…”

It’s cool everyone, that guy who was just worried about the Falcons record, whose fate is directly linked to that of Vick’s, totally thinks it was on the up and up.

You're not gonna cut him. But you are gonna try to get your money back. Got it.

Like, by, not killing more dogs? Or does he have to go the other way and help them by rescuing them and teaching them to read or something?

A dog fighting narc. Look for the reality show this fall in which a suspiciously skittish Vick shows up at dog fights in full NFL uniform and urges perps to “state their name and speak up” into his mic’d lapel flower.

He then, winked, tossed a ball to a fan and high-fived a beaming Jesus who rushed onstage and presented him with a “GOD’S PAL” adorned jersey.





Full disclosure regarding animal abuse. TheCoolerKing enjoys that scene in Conan The Destroyer where Arnie punches out the camel.

The problem here is clearly that there's not yet some sort of Malibu rehab center for dog fighting addicts.

I'm not for dog fighting, but really, what's the difference between what he did and the way factory farms kill cows or chickens? He hung them and drowned them.

PETA videos aside, it bothers me that every "expert" that is being interviewed on CNN talks about the "heinous" and "morally corrupt" crimes he committed. What about that Sonic #2 you had last night?

I'm also not a vegetarian but I see a double standard. How about some of those terms get thrown at factory farms instead of just Vick? Responsible livestock raising. yay.

the problem here is America supports the bad, the convicted and child molesters. Yea, I said it...you get caught with weed for enjoying a good time and not harming anyone but loving people around you; you are ruined in life. You get caught killing dogs because life is you know...boring...and killing things is in good, clean fun and you know...life is boring when you make 140 mill...you get a max 5 year prison sentence. Oh, don't forget Jesus and to not watch porn and to eat your oscar meyer weiners why you pump your SUV with Saudi oil while your wife is nailing your brother and your 8 year old kid has the attention span of a gnat. Because America is good, America is what is white...I mean right!

Not to mention, animals raised for food are (I believe) killed somewhat humanely - versus dog fighting where the dogs sustain combat injuries which often result in death.

Not to mention the ongoing mistreatment and neglect of the dogs.

What I'm saying is that that is a strictly cultural interpretation.

Are you feigning ignorance to the fact that cows are seen as holy in India while in other areas dogs are seen as food?

I have dogs that I love a lot, my point isn't that dogs should be tortured and forced to fight each other to the death, only that the media fury over this is overblown considering the terrible things that happen to animals that go unreported every single day.

Not just seen as. Specifically, in the example he gives, one is food and the other is not.

The problem with your point, is he will not be coming back bigger than ever. Future jail time aside, his career is ruined. All he had was football, I doubt we will see him play in the NFL ever again. Perhaps after his jail time and after some imposed, severe suspension, but I doubt at all.

The NFL must ban Vick for life. He does not deserve to be anyone's idol. I expect him to serve less than a year and be back in the NFL by next season. At which point, I will disown my beloved Jets and just focus on doped-up bicyclists!

See, and I think there is nothing that is simply wrong.

but more importantly-

I'm NOT saying dogfighting is okay. In any way. At all. We agree on this.

I AM saying that other animals deserve more respect. That is all.

I mean nothing is wrong across the board.
This isn't really the outlet for this conversation, but let's go for it.

Murder isn't wrong if someone comes at me with a knife. But that's my interpretation of it. I'm not denying you your right to believe whatever you want about that. For a Buddhist Monk, he might not want to kill someone who is coming at him with a knife. That's his choice.

I think raising dogs and torturing and killing them is wrong.
I also think raising pigs and torturing and killing them is wrong.

But I respect other people's opinions on the matter, and that is what I mean by nothing is simply wrong. Individual acts can be wrong, but no idea should be wrong.

So we all, including the media, should start focusing our discussions and attention on the things "that go unreported" that we've never heard of or know anything about rather than the things we know.

Your reasoning and logic are unique and experimental.

Yes, bad things happen to animals everyday; and if someone is abusing animals, and gets caught, they should throw the fuckin book at the sonuvabitch. Animal abuse makes me ill.

That being said, trying to compare DOG FIGHTING to the slaughter of animals for food is a bit........off kilter to say the least.
A) Dogs are not usually raised for food
B) Chickens and Cows are not trained for and then forced to fight one another with the loser often times dying from its wounds or being killed for not competing well (I wonder what would happen if we enacted similiar practices for Football players, hmmmm)
C) In the case of slaughter; it is usually, and certainly SHOULD, be done humanley and with as little pain as possible. (yes, I know this isn't always the case; and slaughter houses in which it is NOT the case should be fined or closed down; end of story)

On a side note; I believe the penalties are rather high if someone were to engage in Cock Fighting as well; that is, of course, training roosters and pitting them against one another in much the same was as Vick did these poor dogs. Also illegal, and rightfully so.

Every celebrity apology sounds lame and contrived.

I'm complaining that our society needs to look deeper and see that there are more horrendous things going on. Like the abuse of other animals. Once again, I'm not justifying what he did.

In addition, there is a difference between killing an animal for sustainance and torturing and killing an animal for sport.

I think because most of them are

Its kinda like when you catch a kid trying to hit his sister and then force him to say "I'm Sorry". The "I'm Sorry" is forced and, because of it, not genuine of all.
Of course, this would mean that most celeberties act like little children.......... Actually, that sounds about right

Exactly!

Moreover, the reason the Falcons aren't cutting Vick right now is because it would severely negatively impact their salary cap situation, which is pretty much lethal to any football team. I know you want them to be all principled and stuff, but if they did so they'd basically be telling all their fans "Yeah, we give up this year."

Not going to happen.

Rest assured, I'd bet the entire contents of my savings account that if Vick ever plays football again (which is a huge question), it won't be for Atlanta.

im often for the everyday freedoms of people who choose to do socially and morally taboo things.. this is just too far.. its really sad that the dog fighting isnt really where his jail time is going to come, but rather the gambling and paying out of purses... in the sports world you are seeing people shy away from him not because of the dogfighting... but because hes betting.. guaranteed if more comes to light about this betting, (with all the controversy in the nba with fixing games by refs) the nfl will not be able to drop him quick enough... (see pete rose in the mlb)

and also... 'OUR culture' as stated above isnt really his culture too much.. in the south dog fighting is a big thing, fighting pits is a thing that certain groups of people embrace and as bad as it is, they see nothing wrong with it because 'they are just dogs'... its all a matter of where you grow up.. not sayin everyone in the south condones dog fighting.. but its bigger than one might think.. even here in az its relatively big....