NEWS: Mommy Drinks Because You Cry

Personally, I am sick of people who don't find ways to relax themselves.
More pot and booze for everyone, please hurry up and stop with the highly strung bullshit. I don't care if you're a parent, a teacher or a person I work with, please stop what you're doing and have a few drinks.

I don't think that's what the Gringo was saying. I think he was saying the opposite in a way: that if other people WANT kids that's a valid choice, but he doesn't want to have kids and he shouldn't feel pressured by others because of it - it's not like it's something that he needs to do just because so many other people are doing it (the YAY I reproduced part) because that's a bad reason for anyone to have kids. Nor is him having children something that's needed by the world (in an already overpopulated planet one person not reproducing is hardly going to hurt the species, it's actually going to potentially be better for the planet). I just don't think he was attacking other people's decisions to become parents like your response implies.

although this may be gaining some popularity in certain areas, i certainly wouldnt describe it as "sweeping the nation"

have you been to the nation lately?

This was a really cool article, because beneath the defensive righteousness is a big helping of burning logic.

We all seem to agree that the occasional drink or toke helps keep the edge off, as long as we're responsible and judicious with our consumption, as long as we don't let it interfere with our everyday lives.

Now replace "everyday lives" with "ability to parent". I see no difference.

Kids don't have kids, man.

People have kids.

It's the people that are ruining the planet, not the kids.

I take it that trip didn't include any time in England?

I'm surprised anyone gripes about parents toking or drinking. Who's griping? Older folks? What are their arguments?

Thanks for your approval. This means so much to me.

The statement of "overpopulation" wasn't/isn't an argument. It's a fact. Some people may disagree and I respect that. I just view our species as a cancer on this planet that spreads ugliness, hate, which will ultimately extinguish itself once it's completely ruined the entire world.

So do men. Some of us have vasectomies or use condoms (which generally prevent conception in addition to protecting from diseases and infections).

I do believe that women should be empowered but I believe in rights for EVERYONE - not just for minorities and women. Although I support feminists - I tend to lose respect for the extremists. Some of them (and you appear to fall into this category) will only see a woman's side and look for injustices that aren't there. They live their lives as victims and victimize other women blindly without dismissing genders and evaluating situations without bias.

I absolutely believe that women have been discriminated against in the past, and believe it's still going on today. I will absolutely defend someone against hate crimes or discrimination because it's one of our (humans) ugliest of traits.

I won't, however, automatically assume that someone is committing any such crime or injustice just because they fall into a gender, race, religion, or nationality and treat them with disrespect. I would rather react or respond after I've seen their intentions, acts, or motives.

It's very clear to me that you're an extremist. I think it's sad. Ultimately, you're doing more harm for women's rights than good. You create disdain rather than providing an open understanding of problems where we can work together to solve problems.

I'm pretty sure Martin Luther King wouldn't have made the impact he did if he came across as an asshole and insulted whitey instead of trying to unite through mutual respect.

Legionnaire...

HAH! Nope... Italy (go figure... maybe we just didn't hit the right spots!), France, Germany and Austria...

no..same perfectionist "soccer mom" types of the 90's are following the latest baby trends, which happen to be attachment parenting at the moment.

isn't the name of the article also a country song?

I totally did and it threw me for a loop. I was going to have to call my mom and if she had any of my old highlights left and see what kind of articles i missed as a child when all i cared about was circiling all the animals i could find in a picture, or spoting th difference in two pictures etc... glad we cleared that up... or did we?

yeah my brother and dad used to smoke together, some people call it cool, i call it pathetic that my old as dad had to smoke with a teenage kid and a bunch of his friends, and i guess try to seem cool to them and hang out with them more and more and more, then my brother dropped out of school, my dad didn't give a fuck... why you ask? because he was in prision for pawning shit that my brother and his friends stole while their "friends" were at school. they they sarted meth together, and we lost our house!!! man i love that kind of responsibility... if parents want to unwind cool. don't unwind with your kids. it's a slippery slop for the parent who feels like now they are to much a friend to their child to be a fucking parent.

yeah if mom or dad wants a joint now and then by all means have at it, but to say it makes you a better parent is a load of shit by a person who can't handle life.

+1

Doing drugs or drinking does not mean you can't handle life. It simply means you like the feeling when you're on them.

My brother is a dentist with his own practice and my sister-in-law is a chiropractor. They have three kids and have done MDMA since medical school.

They enjoy that because it gives them a nice break from the day-to-day bullshit. Being relaxed does make them better parents and probably less bitchy to one another since they both have quite a load to handle. Both of them are handling life pretty damn well.

Don't be so ignorant and judgmental towards others. Just figure out what works for you and let other people figure out what works for them.

Thank you... I was about to say the same thing - only without the smiley face

In other words, your father didn't know the difference between recreational and addictive, and didn't understand responsibility. That doesn't mean everyone is like that... you really shouldn't assume that everyone is like your dad. There are many people out there that do understand the difference, and can handle both responsibility and the occassional toke.

exactly. i really think people who start doing meth with their kids are in a totally different category.

first of all it's whole different story if you are even going to start doing drugs or getting drunk WITH their kids. i have to say that as a teenager those parents who bought us alcohol or smoked weed with us were NOT considered "cool". they were all pretty big loser parents.

there is a whole different category of very responsible people who are very successful and still smoke weed or whatever on weekends. as a young kid i used to nanny a lot for super rich people and help out with the kids at their dinner parties. those lawyers, artists, doctors, professors all got pretty toasty and would often pass around a joint. no big whoop.

I used to drink a hell of a lot before I concieved my son but Ive pretty much stayed off it since then to be honest. Not for any role model type reason or sudden moral questioning on my part, simply because a hangover is really not fun with a small child bouncing on your head at 6am

I think most parents are probably like that - I know I am. But I don't like the fact that some people, many of whom don't even have children, will call me "weak" or "irresponsible" or "unable to handle life" if I decide to have a Bacardi breezer while relaxing in the backyard once the kids are in bed. Not only is that extremely judgemental, but it is also insulting.