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noirkiss3

noirkiss3

Minneapolis, MN
April 2006

APR 21, 2007 06:18 PM

I have lost WAY TOO MUCH to this drug.frown
It has all the beauty of a mushroom-cloud.
If anyone is struggling with it and needs someone to talk to that is non-judgemental feel free to write me.

FuctUpKornFan131

FuctUpKornFan131

Belgium
November 2011

NOV 24, 2011 07:14 AM

I'm so sick of the heroin taboo. I agree it's probably the worst drug you can try but why is morphine good and heroin bad? I used it and now I'm addicted to methadone and I really dont see ANY hope of getting off that.oin is ok for some people who are in physical or emotional pain but even tho I use it, I would never sell it, even to friends. About heroin dealers tho,that's true, they have no morals at all. but everyone here nneeds something to keep them going in life, stop judging people for their choices. Heroin IS a choice, methadone isn't

FuctUpKornFan131

FuctUpKornFan131

Belgium
November 2011

NOV 24, 2011 07:27 AM

I agree, if ur using and want to stop, you should definitely talk toa former addictict before ypu choose a detox plan. It's best to get advice from someone or even several people who have been in you're situation beforeyou see a Dr. who hasn't. I've found that tramadol can be very effective, Methadone is good if you tke it for a very short period.

Psyche

Psyche

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

NOV 24, 2011 11:20 AM

Personally I think meth is a whole lot worse for you than heroin.

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

NOV 24, 2011 11:36 AM

FuctUpKornFan131 said:
I'm so sick of the heroin taboo. I agree it's probably the worst drug you can try but why is morphine good and heroin bad? I used it and now I'm addicted to methadone and I really dont see ANY hope of getting off that.oin is ok for some people who are in physical or emotional pain but even tho I use it, I would never sell it, even to friends. About heroin dealers tho,that's true, they have no morals at all. but everyone here nneeds something to keep them going in life, stop judging people for their choices. Heroin IS a choice, methadone isn't



The morphine used in hospitals now is non-addictive. That's a good reason for the difference.

FuctUpKornFan131

FuctUpKornFan131

Belgium
November 2011

NOV 25, 2011 12:28 AM

hahah non addictive morphine. Heroin was once legal because they thought it was a non addictive alternative. The only actual difference now is the crap dealers mix in to make a profit, heroin is about as addictive as alcohol, you need to use it daily for a long time, but its easier to use than alcohol

Keith

Keith

Hooker, OK
August 2002

NOV 25, 2011 05:39 AM

Like ^ said, the main problems with heroin are impurities and poor practices regarding hygiene and needles. If you were disciplined about dosage and had access to an unlimited supply of clean needles and pure heroin, you could probably do it every day till you died of old age. Most addicts actually die of the ancillary consequences of their lifestyle: dirty needles (AIDs, Hep C), overdose (impure/unpredictable dosage), and exposure (homelessness).

CoyoteMike

CoyoteMike

Iowa City, IA
May 2006

NOV 25, 2011 11:41 AM

FuctUpKornFan131 said:
hahah non addictive morphine.



Yes. When administered in proper doses by a qualified physician, the morphine used in hospitals today is not addictive.

Skoosh

Skoosh

HOPEFUL

New Orleans, LA

NOV 25, 2011 05:53 PM

Just say no and walk away.

Invisible_Man

Invisible_Man

I'm lost
May 2009

NOV 26, 2011 04:39 PM

Psyche said:
Personally I think meth is a whole lot worse for you than heroin.



Personally, I think burning to death is a whole lot worse than drowning.

Skoosh

Skoosh

HOPEFUL

New Orleans, LA

NOV 26, 2011 04:42 PM

Keith said:
Like ^ said, the main problems with heroin are impurities and poor practices regarding hygiene and needles. If you were disciplined about dosage and had access to an unlimited supply of clean needles and pure heroin, you could probably do it every day till you died of old age. Most addicts actually die of the ancillary consequences of their lifestyle: dirty needles (AIDs, Hep C), overdose (impure/unpredictable dosage), and exposure (homelessness).



The main problems with heroin is that it's heroin.

atheistXpeace

atheistXpeace

USA
October 2011

NOV 26, 2011 06:45 PM

A ex-girlfriend of mine had a really cool dad. We were both musicians and into punk rock, sadly he died of an OD. I really had some good times with that guy, the few times I spent with him.

misfit762

misfit762

Monroeville, PA
April 2004

NOV 27, 2011 04:42 PM

I've tried it twice, snorting it both times and I hated it, Thank God!

My soon to be Ex-Wife has had several problems with methadone. That's part of the reason we are getting a divorce.

My cousin is heading back to rehab for heroin. He has spent time in jail for robbery and possession. Been in and out of rehab.

Two friends from high school died, one from an OD the other contracted HIV and later died of AIDS. I've seen another friend of mine get strung out and busted. Last I knew he was on the run. His girlfriend was one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen and the last time I saw her she was disgusting. I have several other friends from high school that had there lives ruined by smack.

It's sad.

FuctUpKornFan131

FuctUpKornFan131

Belgium
November 2011

NOV 27, 2011 06:45 PM

Just to be clear I'm not recommending Heroin, I'm just saying that the drug isn't the problem, it's what some people do in order to buy it or what people do to make a profit from selling it. using heroin is never a good idea and it it will make all your problems worse

MissyMalice

MissyMalice

USA
May 2010

NOV 27, 2011 10:30 PM

Skoosh said:

Keith said:
Like ^ said, the main problems with heroin are impurities and poor practices regarding hygiene and needles. If you were disciplined about dosage and had access to an unlimited supply of clean needles and pure heroin, you could probably do it every day till you died of old age. Most addicts actually die of the ancillary consequences of their lifestyle: dirty needles (AIDs, Hep C), overdose (impure/unpredictable dosage), and exposure (homelessness).



The main problems with heroin is that it's heroin.



+1 surreal There are undeniable health risks associated with heroin. You don't have to overdose for it to be bad for you.

Keith

Keith

Hooker, OK
August 2002

NOV 28, 2011 06:01 AM

Reading comprehension is not a strong suit around here, is it?

The scenario I outlined for 'harmless' heroin usage is unlikely to happen to anyone in the real world outside of members of the Rolling Stones. You guys act like I said it was awesome good times for everybody.

MissyMalice

MissyMalice

USA
May 2010

NOV 28, 2011 08:26 AM

Keith said:
Reading comprehension is not a strong suit around here, is it?

The scenario I outlined for 'harmless' heroin usage is unlikely to happen to anyone in the real world outside of members of the Rolling Stones. You guys act like I said it was awesome good times for everybody.



No one is acting like that.
But you're acting like if someone disagrees with you, they must just be incapable of comprehending your point. No. Sometimes people just disagree with you while perfectly understanding what you're saying. This is a fact of life. Your comment about reading comprehension comes across both arrogant and ignorant in this context.

Psyche

Psyche

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

NOV 28, 2011 02:40 PM

Keith said:
Like ^ said, the main problems with heroin are impurities and poor practices regarding hygiene and needles. If you were disciplined about dosage and had access to an unlimited supply of clean needles and pure heroin, you could probably do it every day till you died of old age. Most addicts actually die of the ancillary consequences of their lifestyle: dirty needles (AIDs, Hep C), overdose (impure/unpredictable dosage), and exposure (homelessness).



While I'd like to agree with that, that isn't completely true. Longtime heroin usage tends to be associated with kidney failure and other renal problems. I have also noticed that one of the side-effects of being high on heroin, is that it suddenly becomes incredibly difficult to urinate.

Coyotemike said:

FuctUpKornFan131 said:
hahah non addictive morphine.



Yes. When administered in proper doses by a qualified physician, the morphine used in hospitals today is not addictive.



I'm totally confused, as I have heard nothing about this. What specifically have they modified in the morphine today to make it less addictive than the morphine in the past? If you're talking about the extended-time release matrix, there's plenty of guidelines available online for breaking the polymer compound.

Jamila

Jamila

SUICIDEGIRL

Oregon, USA

DEC 14, 2011 12:19 AM

Psyche said:
Personally I think meth is a whole lot worse for you than heroin.



This. Sort of. Meth takes over communities and fucks up kids lives. This I have seen firsthand. I have lost a friend to a heroin overdose, he started with an addiction to Oxycontin after it was prescribed post-op (NOT supposed to be used for this type of short-term pain relief) and heroin was cheaper.
Methadone is a joke as a "treatment" for heroin addiction. You are far more likely to die from methadone withdrawals than heroin withdrawals.

Fatality

Fatality

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

DEC 14, 2011 08:07 AM

MissyMalice said:

Skoosh said:

Keith said:
Like ^ said, the main problems with heroin are impurities and poor practices regarding hygiene and needles. If you were disciplined about dosage and had access to an unlimited supply of clean needles and pure heroin, you could probably do it every day till you died of old age. Most addicts actually die of the ancillary consequences of their lifestyle: dirty needles (AIDs, Hep C), overdose (impure/unpredictable dosage), and exposure (homelessness).



The main problems with heroin is that it's heroin.



+1 surreal There are undeniable health risks associated with heroin. You don't have to overdose for it to be bad for you.



and

Keith:


Like ^ said, the main problems with heroin are impurities and poor practices regarding hygiene and needles. If you were disciplined about dosage and had access to an unlimited supply of clean needles and pure heroin, you could probably do it every day till you died of old age. Most addicts actually die of the ancillary consequences of their lifestyle: dirty needles (AIDs, Hep C), overdose (impure/unpredictable dosage), and exposure (homelessness).



I entirely agree with Keith here. There are very few long term negative effects of diacetyl morphine when administered hygienically, other than overdose. It is one of the safest compounds both in terms of side effects (many more side effects from tylenol, advil, SSRIs, etc.) and having a safe withdrawal (whereas the withdrawal from alcohol, benzos, etc. are very unsafe). Of course, this is why agonists like methadone and partial agonists like buprenorphine are (no offense) not jokes at all but very effective in preventing long term consequences. The methadone withdrawal is tough, yes, but still pretty safe. And there are protective ceiling effects on buprenorphine, which is wonderful.

And Psyche, a lot of the glomerular and other renal effects are thought to be related to impurities and immune consequences of pathogens, anyways.

Jamila

Jamila

SUICIDEGIRL

Oregon, USA

DEC 14, 2011 03:43 PM

Coyotemike said:

FuctUpKornFan131 said:
hahah non addictive morphine.



Yes. When administered in proper doses by a qualified physician, the morphine used in hospitals today is not addictive.



This is physiologically impossible.

FuctUpKornFan131

FuctUpKornFan131

Belgium
November 2011

FEB 13, 2013 08:45 PM

I used to have a problem with it. I've always had an addictive personality but whatever town I was in I would immediately seek it out. It ruined a lot of relationships for me too. Then I met someone who got me on subotex and I've been clean for 3 years now.

It's bad shit

genxer

genxer

Westminster, CA
January 2013

FEB 23, 2013 01:24 PM

I read Kurt Cobain's biography called Heavier Then Heaven, and after that I was cured of ever wanting to try heroin. It was absolutely depressing as hell to ready just how hard he tried to give it up and how completely impossible it was, and how it eventually killed him. I don't know if it's the worst drug out there, but there is nothing that anyone could offer me to ever make me want to try it.

toke_n_choke

toke_n_choke

Canada
March 2013

MAR 22, 2013 08:33 PM

People just need to remind themselves being experimenting that "curiousity kills the cat."

I feel that by the time you've gotten around to trying and see what it's like, it's probably already too late.

mstattoos

mstattoos

Stockbridge, GA
February 2007

MAR 29, 2013 07:16 PM

Tried Crack, Shooting up was not something I could do, My Uncle did once when I was around, And it freaked me the Hell out, Now I only drink on occassion. I think everybody has some kind of addiction, some are life ending though:-( My Uncle has many Medical and Mental issues due to his Drug use.

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