NEWS: This Shit Fucking Pisses Me Off

CULTURE: This Shit Fucking Pisses Me Off

Yesterday, Rahodeb posted about the forthcoming study of how Angry Women (aka "bitches" make both men and women feel all insecure and threatened, and how insecure threatened men and women punish Angry Women by paying them shit.

It gets even better, though. Women, you see, know this--what with our not being idiots and all--and as a result, we often don't ask for what we're worth because--surprise!--negotiating our salaries is one of those things that makes Other People think we're bitchy!

Folks in the "institutionalized sexism's all in your head, dearie, and maybe if you didn't hate men so much you'd realize that" camp are fond of pointing out that the pay gap may be attributable to women not asking for as much money as men. Which we don't, on average.

I assume that a lot of nice women are threatened by us bitches because of that whole guilt-by-association thing; I bet there's not a girl on this board who hasn't had, at some point, to play the "aww, baby" reassurance game with some jerky guy who couldn't tell the difference between his Bitchy Ex and the woman in front of him. The catch, of course, is that the nice girls get fucked over too because hey: if you don't ask for what you want, ain't no guy (or girl, she murmurs reassuringly) in the world that's gonna just hand it to you.

The guys don't have any excuse, though. Fuck 'em.

Bitch_PhD is a bitch, and damn proud of it.

at least there is always sleeping your way to the top!

You've just gone from expecting to be treated as an equal to expecting special treatment.

Unless I misread your intent with that staetment.

The guys don't have any excuse for being threatened by "bitches".

when has she ever even hinted that she wants to be treated as an equal?

I don't know. When was her first column? I'd guess it was right about then.

Women make less money than men because they don't ask? And this is because they're worried about image? Come on.

Come on.

So gender inequality in wages is women's fault after all?

I guess I'll be the one to do it... institutionalized sexism's all in your head, dearie, and maybe if you didn't hate men so much you'd realize that.

EDIT: Post retracted. "Futile Meter" was redlining.

I...can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not...I'm going to assume that you are, and that you've read the article correctly.

I'm thinking this is more an opinion piece than news....

however, an opinion piece usually has a rationalized rhetorical bend and is composed of more than aimless, overly emotional declarations.

id rather see an "article" about how and why the pay gap is shrinking (across the board) and how young women in major cities are making more than young men. maybe i missed it.

Jesus fucking Christ. That's the response to all kinds of feminism. "They want to be given preferential treatment." Let's fucking give them preferential treatment then. Because "equality" as being dictated right now isn't fucking working. And somehow her demanding more than what "equality" is giving her is a threat to your manhood, and makes your balls shrivel to the size of raisins, so you feel an uncontrolled, irrational need to defend yourself by accusing her of being a feminist, which, SURPRISE, she is. Get a fucking grip.

What is being done right now isn't working. It's not. If it was, there would be more female CEOs, and wages would be equal. More must be done to counter this maintained status quo. But whenever someone thinks of doing more, they are somehow accused of wanting unfair preferential treatment for women, when all that the status quo "equality" in the law is doing is keeping the gap where it is, not closing it, and certainly not eliminating it. To make things equal, men must admit that they are not superior. Somehow, to most of us, this is an admission of inferiority. IT'S FUCKING NOT.

How about this, fellow males: make new efforts to get women equal status, and put aside the whining for just a few years. K? K. Then, when pay gaps are close to gone, go back to the old ways that maintain pay gaps, and voila! A solution! But men can't put aside their testosterone-ridden overreactions for just a few seconds to analyze the problem instead of whining incessantly like 12-year-olds. 12-year-olds with penile insecurities and matriarchal issues.

(PS: and of course Bitch_PhD thinks she's superior. EVERYONE thinks they're superior. It's called fucking self-esteem.)

I don't like involving myself in discussions when I have not done the research, but I did come across several articles that indicated the gender-wage gap was actually closer than people once thought. In fact, the article stated that women make slightly more than men do. The popular research that says otherwise actually took the average wages made by all women and average wages made by all men and compared them side-by-side, without any metrics that could account for differences in education, experience, or occupation. In such a slanted statistical analysis, there would be a huge difference between the two. However, without having hard sources to back-up these statements, I really cannot stand by them very well; I just felt like putting my two-cents in.

I am interested to see how this new research changes things, though. I hope with this information we can close the gender-wage gap and encourage equitable treatment of each other in the workplace.

One might care about your position were you to express it without sounding like a sailor.

Actually, Formus, I am all for equality. What I am not for is gender bashing during the process to get there.

It's much like blacks working towards eliminating racism but calling whites "honkeys" while expecting to be taken respectfully.

Name-calling and hostility is not the way to a peaceful resolve.

You added this after your original post:

I believe you are mistaken as to what self-esteem is.

You should look up the word "narcissist" sometime.

Hush.

There's an issue here worth acknowledging, and we really don't need to make this all about Prof. Bitch.

And as someone who's happy to take her on when I feel it's appropriate, can I please say that right now, it's worth acknowledging how men and women respond to men and women who are other than sweetness and light, and the implications of that (and the fact that we all respond differently, on average, to men as compared to women who are other than sweetness and light) -- and that gratuitous sniping at the Professor is kind of unhelpful at this juncture.

I think Prof. Bitch's sense of self-importance is way overinflated, but again, we could, y'know, not make this about her.

Awesomely hilarious.

And of course I think I'm superior. I am.

umm, that's cool, I guess.

Hey....he started it!!!

But yeah. It is sad that the original point of the story has become lost because of the way it was delivered.