NEWS: If You Fuck a Man, He Owns You

CULTURE: If You Fuck a Man, He Owns You

At least, some folks in Ohio are trying to make that the law--and with the current makeup of the Supreme Court, they man succeed, despite the precedent of Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

OH State Representatives Adams, Wagner, Brinkman, Uecker, Huffman, Fessler, Wachtmann, Barrett, and Goodwin are sponsoring House Bill 287, which states that

Since we all know that women are lying whores, the good gentlemen (and one lady;* Rep. Fessler is a (brainwashed) woman) of Ohio have taken care of the probability that the murderous bitches will just lie and say they've been raped, or shamelessly claim not to know who the father is: you can't get an abortion for rape or incest unless there's a police report filed. Daddy raped you, honey? And you were too scared or conflicted to call the cops? Tough shit. If you've been whoring around and claim not to know the father, you gotta get a paternity test. Possible babydaddy not around any more? Too. Fucking. Bad.

According to Feministe, Representative Adams argues that

Which, as we all know, is a popular argument about libertarian-leaning people who believe that if you just say men and women are equal, that makes them so--minor things like a woman's right to bodily autonomy are irrelevant, whereas a man's absolute right to determine where and when he incurs financial obligations must not, under any circumstances, be infringed upon.**

As Melissa McEwan points out, requiring a woman to get a man's consent for an abortion is *not* giving him a "say"--it's giving him veto power. It's not making men and women *equal*--it's making women dependent on men's permission to decide what they do and don't do with their bodies.

But you know, if women didn't want to belong to men, we shouldn't have chosen to have uteruses in the first place.




*Irony alert. Of course any woman who could cosponsor a bill like this would be completely ladylike--since "lady," by definition, pretty much means "a woman who's bought into the idea that her sexuality belongs to men."

**Before y'all even get into arguing this point, let me ask if any of the guys (or foolish women) who want to talk about how unfair mandatory child support payments are to men have considered putting their energy into lobbying for governmental child support as a single-parent entitlement? Because if you don't want guys who accidentally cause pregnancies to have to support unwanted children--and let me point out that child support is *for the child*, not for the woman, thankyouverymuch--then you gotta provide some way for the kids to eat. Of course, if you don't think kids are entitled to eat, then you're just a straight up asshole.

Bitch_PhD wants everyone to know that they can contact (politely, one hopes--gentlemen and ladies do expect to be addressed politely) the Ohio State Legislature here.

Great article!

"if you don't think kids are entitled to eat, then you're just a straight up asshole."

...so, why all the pro-abortion articles?

Once again, I'm thankful that I don't live in Ohio. Or another of those wonderful backward states.

Fucking hell, this is aboslutely ridiculous. How nice, they're going to have to pay to go out of state to get it done.

I'm so irritated by this I can't even be bothered to write a long ass answer. I'll come back later.

Cunts.

So do pregnant women also need permission from the father to have babies too?

Really, if OH is so concerned with the man's opinion about whether or not a girl has an abortion....why didn't he make himself responsible for birth control in the first place?

Whooo! Irrelevance!

Does anyone ever get the feeling this whole planet is going to shit? I think it is starting in OH.

watch the birth rate plummet there...

In my opinion a baby as a result of rape and an oops baby from consentual sex are two completely different topics and should thus require two completely different laws.

WTF? Jesus H. Christ, I am loving Canada more and more, despite the fact that somehow abortion advocated and doctor Henry Morgenthaler recently made a list of the Worst Canadians...

Why written consent? We need notes from our mommies and daddies for everything now, even if we're gonna be mommies?

these are not pro-abortion articles, they are pro-choice/womens rights. Reading comprehension is fun isn't it?

Why do anti-choice folks think that pro-choice people want abortions to run rampant?

ha! i knew this shit was gonna make it into a bitch_phd piece of overly reactionary feminist hyperbole when i came across it on digg like 4 hours ago.

i'm not even going to enter the nonsensical debate raging over this piece of fluff. there's no way this is becoming a law. period.

if it does, i'll eat my fucking hat.

They're not anti-choice, their pro-poverty.

Too irate at this point to even be sarcastic. Those fucking people need to be deprogramed from their blind religious dogma.

but you are not wearing a hat.

No, in this case you need a note from the schmuck you nailed at that party whose name you didn't catch.

I do think that, in an age where recreational sex is widely accepted and it is safe and legal to prevent or terminate a pregnancy that you're not equipped to deal with, mandatory child support payments are unfair. But lobbying to change that system would effectively amount to throwing your money away. No Republican will ever back it, because it smacks of big government welfare. No Democrat will ever support it, because it's too easy to spin it as endorsing promiscuity without responsibility. And no politician period would want to go on record supporting the use of tax dollars to let deadbeat dads off the hook.

I don't think that a man who has consensual, recreational sex with a woman and unintentionally impregnates her should be held financially responsible for a child he doesn't want and has no interest in being a parent to. That makes about as much sense to me as forcing a woman to have a baby if she becomes pregnant. As far as I'm concerned, they both amount to "punishing" a person with parenthood for deciding to have recreational sex.

How would giving the father the ability to say no to an abortion give him any ability to avoid financial responsibility? That's backwards logic. I don't see how the leap was made to having something to do with financial stuff.

If the law is supposed to have something to do with allowing the father to control what he pays for, then, logically, it would have to give them the power to force the woman to have one against her will. Did anyone sponsoring (or in any way involved with) the bill say that was the intended purpose?

That's abortion fraud!

Seriously:

source

But the bill itself just says the woman has to provide the father's name in writing; nothing about paternity tests unless there's more than one possible father or the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest.

I think abortion fraud is the way to go.

If made into a law, it could easily be bypassed by the pregnant woman if she says, "I have no clue who the father is. It was from a one night stand with a guy I met in some bar."

well, not today cuz i'm on the bike...but on non bike days i normally wear a fedora of one color or another.

i suppose my helmet could qualify, altho it's a bit hard to chew...i'd probably have to grind it up and drink it or something.

lady |?l?d?| noun ( pl. -dies)
1 a woman (used as a polite or old-fashioned form of reference) : I spoke to the
lady at the travel agency | [as adj. ] a lady doctor.
• ( the Ladies) Brit. a women's public toilet.
• an informal, often brusque, form of address to a woman : I'm sorry, lady, but you have the wrong number.
2 a woman of superior social position, esp. one of noble birth : lords and ladies and royalty were once entertained at the house.
• a courteous, decorous, or genteel woman : his wife was a real lady, with such nice manners.
• ( Lady) (in the UK) a title used by peeresses, female relatives of peers, the wives and widows of knights, etc. : Lady Caroline Lamb.
3 ( one's lady) dated a man's wife : welcoming the vice president and his lady.
• (also lady friend) a woman with whom a man is romantically or sexually involved : the young man bought a rose for his lady.
• historical a woman to whom a man, esp. a knight, is chivalrously devoted.

I wonder where the idea that being called a "lday" means that you're submissive or the property of a man came from? I've heard this before...

Anyway, I, myself, would be really, really upset if my partner decided to abort a fetus that I fathered, but I think this law would do more harm than good for all the reasons mentioned by the author. It seems more like an disingenuous attempt to chip away at a woman's right to a safe and legal abortion.

When it comes to reducing abortions, every penny thrown at making it easier for women to have children is worth a pound in trying to restrict them. And restricting women's right to reproductive control is both unconstitutional and wrong.