JDPatriot said:
The issue is whether or not the GOVERNMENT can get ALL UP IN OUR SHIT and tell a PRIVATE BUSINESS WHAT THE FUCK IT CAN AND CANNOT DO.
No, the government shouldn't do that and I'm surprised more of you don't realize this. It's a gross violation of private property, person, and liberty. Yeah, it's that shit again.
The STORE is a DRUG STORE. THEY SELL DRUGS.
If they don't want to sell a certain drug, THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
You do realize that the government already gets way "up in the shit" of pharmacists, since the dispensation of prescription drugs is already heavily regulated on the federal, state and local levels, right?
Why is this somehow a "gross violation" of human rights when the other roughly seventy bazillion laws that regulate the conduct of pharmacists, including those that require them to be licensed, are not?
JDPatriot said:
If the Government came into a local grocer and made it illegal to sell ORGANIC BEEF, POULTRY, AND VEGETABLES then yall would be up in arms. Why the fuck do you flip flop when suddenly the issue doesn't suit you?
Because that's not the issue. Nice try, though.
JDPatriot said:
If the government can tell you to TO do something, can't they tell you to NOT do something as well? In fact, doesn't most government policy involve telling people what they can, cannot, and must do? Force is Force is Force. It doesn't matter how you use it, it's still force. Thank you. End of that discussion.
Ah, a civics major. Yes, Virginia, the big bad government uses force, or the implied threat thereof. However, where exactly are you getting the concept that "force" is an inherently bad thing? If a police officer uses force to prevent a citizen from raping or killing someone, is the force the police officer used the same as the force the rapist or killer was using on their intended victim? If someone breaks into your home, are you justified in using force to remove them? If you're going to say "force is force is force", then either ALL uses of force are immoral, or NONE of them are.
JDPatriot said:
If you don't like a store's policies, then don't shop there. Don't go crying to the government to use coercive force to thrust your will upon someone. LEAVE THEM THE FUCK ALONE. You'd hate it if the government broke down your door and threw you in a cage for smoking a plant, which is simply other people imposing their will upon you via the force of the government, so why would you do that to someone else? Or are you just an asshole?
I think that murder and rape are wrong. But I guess I'm an asshole for asking the government to enforce that opinion on rapists and murderers, right?
JDPatriot said:
And don't give me that "It's the only pharmacy around" bullshit either. The fact is, if it really matters you can drive your ass 45 minutes to the nearest one. You don't have a God-Given RIGHT to birth control. It's a luxury and a gift. Don't abuse it, and don't thrust it upon people who don't approve of it. Not anyone approves of anal sex either, which is why you don't see Anal-Eaze and the local Cumbersevenelevextra Mart.
You also don't have the Zoroaster-given RIGHT to work as a pharmacist according to your own personal rules and not those of the federal, state and local government. Anyone working as a pharmacist already has to abide by a huge amount of government regulations, why are you pitching a fit about this one instance and not laws that prevent pharmacists from having Free Morphine Day?
JDPatriot said:
Personally, I'm ALL for BC. But I don't own a pharmacy and I'm not about to have the government use a GUN to force my will upon some poor, unsuspecting old person because I'm a fuckwit loser who's so spoiled by society I can't stand to part from my precious little pills.
Yeah, fuck those people who actually think that pharmacists should dispense prescriptions, and not lecture people on their personal morality. I mean, it's not like they need medication for any other reason than being spoiled, right?
JDPatriot said:
In other words, Fuck you, leave those poor people alone, and go back to minding your own God-Damned business. This is how a police state forms. "It's alright to use force to support MY will because I'm an infallible liberal God who's shit smells like fucking roses." Well, guess what, that same gun can be turned around on you. It's better if we get rid of the thing or at least load it with water or rubber bullets or something. (That's a metaphor, in case you can't think from years of too much CNN).
Yes, because regulating pharmacies is the first road to Stalinism. But hey, now when I open my own pharmacy I can dispense whatever the fuck I want to anyone, regardless of the health risks, without bothering to inform those patients, because otherwise that'd be a police state, man!
"You do realize that the government already gets way "up in the shit" of pharmacists, since the dispensation of prescription drugs is already heavily regulated on the federal, state and local levels, right?
Why is this somehow a "gross violation" of human rights when the other roughly seventy bazillion laws that regulate the conduct of pharmacists, including those that require them to be licensed, are not?"
They are. That's my point.
"why are you pitching a fit about this one instance and not laws that prevent pharmacists from having Free Morphine Day?"
See above.
"Because that's not the issue. Nice try, though."
Sigh.....
I even adressed that issue in the next few paragraphs. Read more carefully.
JDPatriot said:
"You do realize that the government already gets way "up in the shit" of pharmacists, since the dispensation of prescription drugs is already heavily regulated on the federal, state and local levels, right?
Why is this somehow a "gross violation" of human rights when the other roughly seventy bazillion laws that regulate the conduct of pharmacists, including those that require them to be licensed, are not?"
They are. That's my point.
"why are you pitching a fit about this one instance and not laws that prevent pharmacists from having Free Morphine Day?"
See above.
Ah, so you live on Libertarian Fantasy Island, where laws that attempt to prevent people from selling unsafe and potentially lethal products are violations of human rights.
Or property rights, which are of course, the exact same thing.
JDPatriot said:
"You do realize that the government already gets way "up in the shit" of pharmacists, since the dispensation of prescription drugs is already heavily regulated on the federal, state and local levels, right?
Why is this somehow a "gross violation" of human rights when the other roughly seventy bazillion laws that regulate the conduct of pharmacists, including those that require them to be licensed, are not?"
They are. That's my point.
"why are you pitching a fit about this one instance and not laws that prevent pharmacists from having Free Morphine Day?"
See above.
Ah, so you live on Libertarian Fantasy Island, where laws that attempt to prevent people from selling unsafe and potentially lethal products are violations of human rights.
Or property rights, which are of course, the exact same thing.
yourfashionwar said: XamaX is Dead, i always think about star trek, too, as the best utopian future society. well, the federation at least.
true, true, as the world stands now that won't happen, it could, it would be awesome, but i see things developing more toward a Babylon 5 type setting, still a lot of infighting, warring with alien races, prejudice agianst aliens... the old saying applies more and more " the more things change, the more they stay the same." aliens come, thier different, people are scared, develop prejudice... meh... but yeah, Star Trek kind of sets the bar for what we could be, i just woner how far we as huminty would have to fall for us to seriously reexamine ourselves as a whole and in a spirit of cooperation, unity and love form a more perfect union capable of solving any problem... my guess, we can't fall far enough... i want to live on Mars though dammit!
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