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Bitch_PhD

Bitch_PhD

I'm lost
February 2007

JUL 24, 2007 02:59 PM



I can't help but find this story completely awesome.

Ron Garber knew his former wife was living with another woman — and had taken her last name — when he agreed to pay her $1,250 a month in alimony.

What he didn't know was that the two women had registered with the state as domestic partners under a law that was supposed to mirror marriage law, Garber said.

State marriage laws say that alimony ends when the former spouse remarries, and Garber reasons he should be off the hook, given that domestic partnership is akin to marriage. But an Orange County judge has decided that registered partnership is cohabitation, not marriage, and that Garber must pay.



I predict that a few more stories like this and the gays'll be getting marriage rights right quick.

Seriously, the guy sounds like a decent sort, and I'm pretty sure that he'll sort something out sooner or later. Big pain in the ass, of course. And the news story is quite good and, I think, clear about the broad range of legal nonsenses involved in "domestic partnership but not Real Marriage" legal complications. Just goes to show that discrimination sucks for everyone, even the people it's supposed to "protect."

Bitch_PhD is doubly amused that this is happening in Orange County, which as y'all may or may not know, is the most reactionary of wealthy SoCal reactionary Republicania.

Uemantra

Uemantra

Okemos, MI
July 2005

JUL 24, 2007 04:17 PM

Lovely

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:19 PM

"Completely awesome". Yes, that really sums it up. Thanks for your rich insights.

Kindle

Kindle

Houston, TX
March 2006

JUL 24, 2007 04:26 PM

Figures

rotten23

rotten23

Red Bank, NJ
April 2006

JUL 24, 2007 04:27 PM

I'm all for same sex marriage, but the fact that dude still has to pay alimony is bullshit.

68stretch

68stretch

Portland, OR
March 2003

JUL 24, 2007 04:28 PM

Years ago I read a similar story where the ex-wife married a man. They didn't get 'state' married, just 'church' married so the ex-husband was still on the hook for alimony. He sued, and the judge ruled that the ex-wife and her new husband were in fact married and got the ex-husband out of alimony. I wondered at the time if the ex-wife had married a woman, would the judge have ruled the same way.

unfiltrator

unfiltrator

San Francisco, CA
April 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:30 PM

She could just give it back.

_DictionaryGirl_

_DictionaryGirl_

NEWSWIRE

San Diego, CA

JUL 24, 2007 04:31 PM

Gah, that's rotten! (The situation, not the article. Natch.)

I know that, politically speaking, it might be a means to the ends of having gay marriage legally recognized, but I don't know if "awesome" is the right word, aside from that his ex-wife is taking some awesomely uncalled-for advantage of him, which is pretty sad...

DownNeck

DownNeck

Jersey City, NJ
March 2006

JUL 24, 2007 04:34 PM

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



not if she's a total cunt, or has some valid reason to want to screw this guy

(edit)

also, she ought to be called out bigtime by the gay community. they're fighting for their rights (which i'm completely in favor of) and she's using loopholes in the law to take advantage of her ex-husband. regardless of her motivation for doing so, it's definitely got the potential to give the entire community a bad name in the media and, at the very least, it'll give the other side more ammunition in their obscene war on human rights.

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:35 PM

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:36 PM

_DictionaryGirl_ said:
Gah, that's rotten! (The situation, not the article. Natch.)

I know that, politically speaking, it might be a means to the ends of having gay marriage legally recognized, but I don't know if "awesome" is the right word, aside from that his ex-wife is taking some awesomely uncalled-for advantage of him, which is pretty sad...



Um, given that the article finds this awesome, I think the article sucks.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUL 24, 2007 04:39 PM

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:44 PM

yourfashionwar said:

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.




"Blame the victim"

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:47 PM

yourfashionwar said:

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.



Or, more likely, she's just a thieving bitch who wants free money for doing nothing.

Though I completely agree with Downneck that the gay community should call her out on this.

DownNeck

DownNeck

Jersey City, NJ
March 2006

JUL 24, 2007 04:47 PM

jtemperance said:

yourfashionwar said:

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.




"Blame the victim"



who may very well, in this case, be the ex-wife. or not. none of us knows.

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:50 PM

DownNeck said:



who may very well, in this case, be the ex-wife. or not. none of us knows.



You're absolutely right; we don't know. Which is why this article is so morally weak.

testykitten

testykitten

Andorra
February 2005

JUL 24, 2007 04:52 PM

jtemperance said:

yourfashionwar said:

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.




"Blame the victim"



no matter what the situation, she is being an opportunist.

but as a side note- i don't think BitchPHD is saying its awesome that this guy is getting screwed. its totally awesome that this proves that homophobic policy is not just...well..homophobic... but full of holes (and not the fun kind).

PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

JUL 24, 2007 04:52 PM

jtemperance said:

DownNeck said:



who may very well, in this case, be the ex-wife. or not. none of us knows.



You're absolutely right; we don't know. Which is why this article is so morally weak.



Given that the article has nothing to do with which of the two is to blame, but rather with the unforseen impact of discriminatory laws, it's hard to fault it for not assigning one of them to the villain's role.

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:54 PM

PatrickY said:

Given that the article has nothing to do with which of the two is to blame, but rather with the unforseen impact of discriminatory laws, it's hard to fault it for not assigning one of them to the villain's role.



Again, I agree that we don't know who is to blame. But then what makes this "completely awesome"? There's a lot packed into that, and I'm not remotely okay with it. There's more than a bit of schadenfreude here.

tech29

tech29

I'm lost
July 2004

JUL 24, 2007 04:57 PM

yourfashionwar said:

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.



What could he have possibly done to deserve any retribution from an ex. No one deserves any form of retribution from an ex partner ever. Thts what we have law's for and law courts ok. ( If a law has been broken) A broken heart does not give you the right to act out some revenge agenda on your ex spouse. So by your logic if an ex wife or girlfriend of mine hurts me I can hurt her back in someway? I mean she had it comming right? She cheated on me or stole or whatever... it was her fault she bought retribution upon herself.
I wonder if you'll ever admit how sexist that comment actually was, but hey, your female and work here so......

whatever

PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

JUL 24, 2007 05:09 PM

Tech29 said:
I wonder if you'll ever admit how sexist that comment actually was, but hey, your female



Holy inconsistency, Batman!

Yes Robin... the spectre of incongruity strikes again.

Tiger_Fodder

Tiger_Fodder

Braintree, MA
June 2007

JUL 24, 2007 05:10 PM

Beautiful!

jtemperance

jtemperance

Chicago, IL
January 2004

JUL 24, 2007 05:11 PM

PatrickY said:

Tech29 said:
I wonder if you'll ever admit how sexist that comment actually was, but hey, your female



Holy inconsistency, Batman!

Yes Robin... the spectre of incongruity strikes again.



Way to take the easy shot and avoid the issue.

tech29

tech29

I'm lost
July 2004

JUL 24, 2007 05:14 PM

PatrickY said:

Tech29 said:
I wonder if you'll ever admit how sexist that comment actually was, but hey, your female



Holy inconsistency, Batman!

Yes Robin... the spectre of incongruity strikes again.



What I ment was women generally get away with sexist or negative comments about Men and other Women in our society. Should have been more specific.

testykitten

testykitten

Andorra
February 2005

JUL 24, 2007 05:19 PM

Tech29 said:

yourfashionwar said:

mr_gosh said:

publicAnemone said:
She could just give it back.



You're assuming she's a decent human being.



as downneck said, it's possible the guy has brought retribution upon himself.



What could he have possibly done to deserve any retribution from an ex. No one deserves any form of retribution from an ex partner ever. Thts what we have law's for and law courts ok. ( If a law has been broken) A broken heart does not give you the right to act out some revenge agenda on your ex spouse. So by your logic if an ex wife or girlfriend of mine hurts me I can hurt her back in someway? I mean she had it comming right? She cheated on me or stole or whatever... it was her fault she bought retribution upon herself.
I wonder if you'll ever admit how sexist that comment actually was, but hey, your female and work here so......

whatever



i think you're kinda taking the "awesome" thing and running very far away from the article with it. the Bitch is actually sympathetic toward the poor guy.

what is awesome is that homophobic policy is backfiring on itself, allowing jerks like her to take advantage of people. what is awesome is that maybe this will bring some change to the fact that we don't in california recognize gay marriage.

and yeah, she sucks.

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