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johnnyfu

johnnyfu

Hartford, CT
March 2003

JUL 19, 2007 12:01 PM



Authors are mostly immune to bootlegs. There’s never been a Napster for books or a YouTube for literature. Books obviously don’t exist in a form that can be easily uploaded onto the web; they’re physical objects existing in physical space. Unless publishers allow them to be e-books or if someone painstakingly re-typed the book.

Spoilers for books are readily available on the internet, but since people don’t give a shit about books in general, it’s not a real problem. But when it's a book people actually give a shit about, things get weird.

Photographs of every page in the new Harry Potter book have
appeared online. The 780-page plus book, the seventh and final entry in the Harry Potter series, won’t be released until 12:01 AM on Saturday. However, tens of thousands of people have already downloaded the book and have read the ending which (Possible spoiler alert!) will almost certainly be a letdown.

The pictures released online show the book in two page spreads, and the content is apparently legit – which means that somewhere, someone took over 350 pictures of a book because people needed to know Harry Potter’s fate a week early.

The leaked pages story appeared against a backdrop of desperate media hype surrounding the book. A couple of weeks ago, Gawker.com posted an obviously fake spoiler (which said that Harry died at the end of the book and was smashed into a million pieces) which today became a feature-length newspaper story story.

The New York Times is so hyped up on writing about the possibility that the book’s secrets might be revealed they ran an interview with the Creepy dude who reads the audio book versions.

Newspaper culture desks are tearing apart every aspect of the upcoming Harry Potter like Day of the Dead zombies attacking a scientist. Almost every daily newspaper in America has an article with the jokey headline template “Harry Potter and the _______ .”

So far, my personal favorite has been the Hartford Courant who reported the New England Center for Headache has diagnosed the character’s headaches. (Possible spoiler alert: it's probably a migraine.)

The Los Angeles Times actually managed to write an a interesting story, despite its “Harry Potter and the Diminishing Returns” headline. Even though the book is the publishing event of the year, big bookstores aren’t going to make a dime from it. The rush for the lowest list price has driven the initial sales price down, and many outlets are reportedly selling it for pennies over the wholesale cost. They could make up the loss by selling other books, but apparently nobody wants to buy any other books.

… the so-called halo effect, in which customers come for one book but buy other similar titles as well, has rarely materialized. "Harry Potter is a remarkable phenomenon," [publishing industry analyst] Greco said. "But he's a one-hit wonder."

Saraphine

Saraphine

SUICIDEGIRL

Pennsylvania, USA

JUL 19, 2007 12:05 PM

Wow. I'm so glad I don't care about Harry Potter! Too much work!

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUL 19, 2007 12:07 PM

While I really don't get why people who actually read and enjoy the books would want to know the ending before the book is released, what I REALLY don't get is the people on the internet who think it's fun to spoil the book for everyone. I've been seeing them all over the place lately: people who put real spoilers into threads that have nothing to do with Harry Potter, or post things without spoiler warnings, or even put real spoilers into their userpics. I just don't get it. Why are there people out there who actually ENJOY spoiling things for others?

I know this has little to do with the original post, I just had to rant. I'm a Harry Potter fan and I basically have to stay off of certain websites until I can finish the new book (which will probably only take me a day) just to avoid the "haha, I spoiled book 7 for you!" people.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUL 19, 2007 12:10 PM

despite my retirement from the media, i went to nytimes.com this morning, as usual. thankfully as soon as i saw there was a harry potter review i got the hell out of there.

i'm really surprised that huge news outlets like the new york times are somehow oblivious to rabid potter fandom (or just don't care).

i'm trying to be so so careful. i wish i could spend the next day and a half in a cave. frown

let me just say that i will straight up AK anyone who spills any spoilers to me, and don't think i won't crucio for a few hours first.

i do not understand the sadistic urge to ruin something for someone else. it's just plain mean.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

JUL 19, 2007 12:18 PM

i know how my favorite books end and i enjoy them more with every read. besides, i thought harry potter books were for children.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUL 19, 2007 12:21 PM

jason said:
i know how my favorite books end and i enjoy them more with every read. besides, i thought harry potter books were for children.



Yes, but there is a huge difference between re-reading an old favorite and reading something for the first time. No, it doesn't "ruin" the book to know the ending, but part of the experience of reading it is not knowing what might happen next, and it sucks when someone spoils that for you.

And the whole "for children" thing doesn't mean that adults can't legitimately enjoy it. For one thing, the books are more dark and longer than most children's books. On top of that, many books that are well-loved by people of all ages were "for children". The Hobbit, The Little Prince, Alice in Wonderland...adults love those books, too. A good book knows no age.

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUL 19, 2007 12:22 PM

yourfashionwar said:i do not understand the sadistic urge to ruin something for someone else. it's just plain mean.



It's almost like they're yelling "that'll teach YOU to enjoy reading!". frown

Rin

Rin

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

JUL 19, 2007 12:28 PM

i am one of the people who downloaded it; to me it's no different than downloading a movie or music. the quality isn't always great and out of 100 or so pages so far i've had to skip 3 because they're so unreadable. but the story's great and i'm devouring it.

doesn't mean i'm going to be an asshole and post spoilers, though! that's just mean.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

JUL 19, 2007 12:32 PM

Morgan said:
And the whole "for children" thing doesn't mean that adults can't legitimately enjoy it. For one thing, the books are more dark and longer than most children's books. On top of that, many books that are well-loved by people of all ages were "for children". The Hobbit, The Little Prince, Alice in Wonderland...adults love those books, too. A good book knows no age.


i didn't know they were that good. maybe ill read one sometime.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

JUL 19, 2007 12:33 PM

Rin said:
i am one of the people who downloaded it; to me it's no different than downloading a movie or music. the quality isn't always great and out of 100 or so pages so far i've had to skip 3 because they're so unreadable. but the story's great and i'm devouring it.

doesn't mean i'm going to be an asshole and post spoilers, though! that's just mean.



You really don't mind reading a book on a computer screen? Ugh.

And this isn't about some romantic concept of being the first to crack the binding, the smell of the pages, all that bullshit.

This is about eye strain and convenience.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

JUL 19, 2007 12:33 PM

jason said:

Morgan said:
And the whole "for children" thing doesn't mean that adults can't legitimately enjoy it. For one thing, the books are more dark and longer than most children's books. On top of that, many books that are well-loved by people of all ages were "for children". The Hobbit, The Little Prince, Alice in Wonderland...adults love those books, too. A good book knows no age.


i didn't know they were that good. maybe ill read one sometime.



There's a difference between "good" and "enjoyable". wink

Morgan

Morgan

SUICIDEGIRL

Illinois, USA

JUL 19, 2007 12:35 PM

jason said:
i didn't know they were that good. maybe ill read one sometime.



Oh, well in my opinion they aren't THAT good, but they are very enjoyable reads. At least for me. They do a good job of keeping me interested, I care about the characters, and I can re-read them several times and still enjoy them a lot.

But they certainly aren't as great as The Hobbit or The Little Prince.

Solaris

Solaris

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

JUL 19, 2007 12:37 PM

Got_the_Gwop said:


You really don't mind reading a book on a computer screen? Ugh.

And this isn't about some romantic concept of being the first to crack the binding, the smell of the pages, all that bullshit.

This is about eye strain and convenience.



my boyfriend ONLY reads e-books. i forgot this and bought him an actual book for christmas, which he will never ever read because he can't carry it along with hundreds of other books around on his pocket pc! he has a built in night light for reading in the dark, and can download a bunch of books for free. i used to think he was weird but now i think he is on to something. however if you have to sit infront of your computer to read it, i would not want to do that. but if you go the pocket pc route it is definitely more convenient than a traditional book. and he read harry potter like two months ago.

Solaris

Solaris

SUICIDEGIRL

British Columbia, Canada

JUL 19, 2007 12:39 PM

these days i am only reading 'childrens' books! the hobbit, watership down, and mostly these days the redwall series. but i am a sucker for animal based adventures which are only offered in 'childrens' literature.

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUL 19, 2007 12:42 PM

i despise the hobbit and watership down, but lewis carroll i can get behind, and no, hp is not that good. but it's very good for modern stuff and if you haven't noticed by now that tons of teenagers and adutls are way into this shit by now, you're living under a rock.

there were hardly any children when i saw the movie last week.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

JUL 19, 2007 12:45 PM

Solaris said:

Got_the_Gwop said:


You really don't mind reading a book on a computer screen? Ugh.

And this isn't about some romantic concept of being the first to crack the binding, the smell of the pages, all that bullshit.

This is about eye strain and convenience.



my boyfriend ONLY reads e-books. i forgot this and bought him an actual book for christmas, which he will never ever read because he can't carry it along with hundreds of other books around on his pocket pc! he has a built in night light for reading in the dark, and can download a bunch of books for free. i used to think he was weird but now i think he is on to something. however if you have to sit infront of your computer to read it, i would not want to do that. but if you go the pocket pc route it is definitely more convenient than a traditional book. and he read harry potter like two months ago.



I couldn't handle that. I'd lose the thing. It's hard enough keeping track of a cell phone. If I lose a book, that's only ten or twenty books I'm out.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

JUL 19, 2007 12:45 PM

no matter how many times i see or hear 'hermione', i cant get used to it. what the hell kind of name is that? what is this, dostoyevsky? do you think they others names were a compromise? ok, ill call that one harry and that one ron, but im putting my foot down at hermione.

Cigarette

Cigarette

Cleveland, OH
April 2004

JUL 19, 2007 12:48 PM

jason said:
no matter how many times i see or hear 'hermione', i cant get used to it. what the hell kind of name is that?



The name of a character from Greek mythology. Just like yrs.

spamtwo

spamtwo

United Kingdom
April 2006

JUL 19, 2007 12:49 PM

go read Conrads War... now that's a good kids book

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUL 19, 2007 12:51 PM

srsly.

it's a really pretty name, but i could never use it for any kids (or cats, more likely) because everyone would think of only harry potter and not shakespeare, which would be my point of reference, having read the winter's tale ages before harry potter.

jason

jason

USA
August 2002

JUL 19, 2007 12:53 PM

Got_the_Gwop said:

jason said:
no matter how many times i see or hear 'hermione', i cant get used to it. what the hell kind of name is that?


The name of a character from Greek mythology. Just like yrs.


oh snap!

RileyStClair

RileyStClair

Los Angeles, CA
September 2006

JUL 19, 2007 01:03 PM

jason said:
what is this, dostoyevsky? do you think they others names were a compromise?



hermionivina grangerovich?

Dovanna

Dovanna

Minneapolis, MN
March 2007

JUL 19, 2007 01:23 PM

jason said:

Got_the_Gwop said:

jason said:
no matter how many times i see or hear 'hermione', i cant get used to it. what the hell kind of name is that?


The name of a character from Greek mythology. Just like yrs.


oh snap!



Or has Grawp would say, "Hermi!"

lol I'm such a dork. wink

farrukh

farrukh

United Kingdom
October 2004

JUL 19, 2007 02:21 PM

all i can recall is that harry potter let his bollocks out on stage. any reviews on his stuff?

farrukh

farrukh

United Kingdom
October 2004

JUL 19, 2007 02:22 PM

ha ha, i said "harry"!

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