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Gerry_D

Gerry_D

Los Angeles, CA
May 2003

JUL 10, 2007 05:36 PM



Your wait to enter Captivity ends tonight at the launch party hosted by Dave Navarro and SuicideGirls.

As newswire readers are surely aware -- Captivity, directed by Roland Joffe, is an underground, spine chilling thriller that follows the story of a young woman who is abducted, held against her will and tortured for days. The live broadcast will include: celebrity interviews on the red carpet, and live interviews with some of your favorite Suicide Girls.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 10, 2007 06:05 PM

#1 I'm not being judgmental. Whatever your into, fine. I just totally don't understand how movies like this are entertaining. Again, I'm not getting down on anybody, but I personally have never been able to fathom the entire slasher/torture/horror movie genre. I mean, if you're not some sick twisted Jeffery Dahmer like person who really gets off on perpetrating such actions (and I know most people who enjoy this type of film and NOT like this, I'm married to one), what is the appeal of watching people suffer? Even my wife of almost 15 years has been unable to explain it to me. Seriously, I'm not trying to put anyone down, I just personally don't understand it. I guess the best way to describe my situation is to make the analogy that some people are great at math and some can't add 2 + 2. Could someone please explain the psychological need to see fictionalized accounts of people getting tortured?

No hard feelings. Hope the opening goes well.

Sunshine

Sunshine

SUICIDEGIRL

Ohio, USA

JUL 10, 2007 06:11 PM

i'm excited to see the girls who worked the opening! smile this rocks!

Cassiel

Cassiel

Aurora, CO
September 2004

JUL 10, 2007 06:15 PM

ManiaTV = puke

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 10, 2007 06:23 PM

Sunshine said:
i'm excited to see the girls who worked the opening! smile this rocks!



I'm ESPECIALLY NOT judging you!!! smile love love

SignalNoise

SignalNoise

USA
February 2004

JUL 10, 2007 06:30 PM

is an underground, spine chilling thriller



Unless "underground" refers to the geographic location of this movie (like it's about Morlocks or some shit), I'm pretty sure "underground" (referring to something like "independent") is not what this move is at all? I mean, there are ads for this thing all over the web, TV, buses....

deusxmachina

deusxmachina

Honolulu, HI
May 2003

JUL 10, 2007 06:33 PM

Captivity, directed by Roland Joffe, is an underground, spine chilling thriller that follows the story of a young woman who is abducted, held against her will and tortured for days.



Sweet, I would support this!

xlelliot

xlelliot

Citrus Heights, CA
June 2003

JUL 10, 2007 06:34 PM

I don't get it, I though the suicide girls weren't supporting this....
or is it just the columnist? whatever

Rafi

Rafi

Santa Monica, CA
January 2003

JUL 10, 2007 06:42 PM

Hoooooray!!! for abducted and tortured females! Huzzah!!!! for innocent women's mutilation displayed for our amusement!

whatever

Mockingbird

Mockingbird

Chicago, IL
January 2006

JUL 10, 2007 06:45 PM

Weeeeeeeeird.

Vanessa

Vanessa

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

JUL 10, 2007 06:48 PM

varukasalt said:
#1 I'm not being judgmental. Whatever your into, fine. I just totally don't understand how movies like this are entertaining. Again, I'm not getting down on anybody, but I personally have never been able to fathom the entire slasher/torture/horror movie genre. I mean, if you're not some sick twisted Jeffery Dahmer like person who really gets off on perpetrating such actions (and I know most people who enjoy this type of film and NOT like this, I'm married to one), what is the appeal of watching people suffer? Even my wife of almost 15 years has been unable to explain it to me. Seriously, I'm not trying to put anyone down, I just personally don't understand it. I guess the best way to describe my situation is to make the analogy that some people are great at math and some can't add 2 + 2. Could someone please explain the psychological need to see fictionalized accounts of people getting tortured?



Some of us are fascinated by it.
You know how people are fascinated with fluffy bunnies and unicorns and happy fuzzy things?
Some of us are like that with murders and torture and carnage in general.
Ask anyone in the Rigor Mortis group.

I know I am.
I have an Ed Gein waterglobe, for Christ's sake.

MisterClean

MisterClean

Pawtucket, RI
February 2004

JUL 10, 2007 06:51 PM

Rafi said:
Hoooooray!!! for abducted and tortured females! Huzzah!!!! for innocent women's mutilation displayed for our amusement!

whatever



+1

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 10, 2007 06:52 PM

Vanessa said:

varukasalt said:
#1 I'm not being judgmental. Whatever your into, fine. I just totally don't understand how movies like this are entertaining. Again, I'm not getting down on anybody, but I personally have never been able to fathom the entire slasher/torture/horror movie genre. I mean, if you're not some sick twisted Jeffery Dahmer like person who really gets off on perpetrating such actions (and I know most people who enjoy this type of film and NOT like this, I'm married to one), what is the appeal of watching people suffer? Even my wife of almost 15 years has been unable to explain it to me. Seriously, I'm not trying to put anyone down, I just personally don't understand it. I guess the best way to describe my situation is to make the analogy that some people are great at math and some can't add 2 + 2. Could someone please explain the psychological need to see fictionalized accounts of people getting tortured?



Some of us are fascinated by it.
You know how people are fascinated with fluffy bunnies and unicorns and happy fuzzy things?
Some of us are like that with murders and torture and carnage in general.
Ask anyone in the Rigor Mortis group.

I know I am.
I have an Ed Gein waterglobe, for Christ's sake.


I understand that people are fascinated by it. My question is why?

tehbonehead

tehbonehead

Joliet, IL
April 2003

JUL 10, 2007 06:52 PM

Vanessa said:
I have an Ed Gein waterglobe, for Christ's sake.



love

Vanessa

Vanessa

SUICIDEGIRL

USA

JUL 10, 2007 06:56 PM

varukasalt said:

Vanessa said:

varukasalt said:
#1 I'm not being judgmental. Whatever your into, fine. I just totally don't understand how movies like this are entertaining. Again, I'm not getting down on anybody, but I personally have never been able to fathom the entire slasher/torture/horror movie genre. I mean, if you're not some sick twisted Jeffery Dahmer like person who really gets off on perpetrating such actions (and I know most people who enjoy this type of film and NOT like this, I'm married to one), what is the appeal of watching people suffer? Even my wife of almost 15 years has been unable to explain it to me. Seriously, I'm not trying to put anyone down, I just personally don't understand it. I guess the best way to describe my situation is to make the analogy that some people are great at math and some can't add 2 + 2. Could someone please explain the psychological need to see fictionalized accounts of people getting tortured?



Some of us are fascinated by it.
You know how people are fascinated with fluffy bunnies and unicorns and happy fuzzy things?
Some of us are like that with murders and torture and carnage in general.
Ask anyone in the Rigor Mortis group.

I know I am.
I have an Ed Gein waterglobe, for Christ's sake.


I understand that people are fascinated by it. My question is why?



Pardon me if I sound like I have a serial killer alter ego here, but I am completely intrigued by dead bodies and the thousands of different ways to kill people, the ways they can be tortured, and the psychological state of people who do this.
If I could be a criminal psychologist by day and a mortician by night, I'd be very happy.
And tired.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 10, 2007 07:07 PM

Vanessa said:

varukasalt said:

Vanessa said:

varukasalt said:
#1 I'm not being judgmental. Whatever your into, fine. I just totally don't understand how movies like this are entertaining. Again, I'm not getting down on anybody, but I personally have never been able to fathom the entire slasher/torture/horror movie genre. I mean, if you're not some sick twisted Jeffery Dahmer like person who really gets off on perpetrating such actions (and I know most people who enjoy this type of film and NOT like this, I'm married to one), what is the appeal of watching people suffer? Even my wife of almost 15 years has been unable to explain it to me. Seriously, I'm not trying to put anyone down, I just personally don't understand it. I guess the best way to describe my situation is to make the analogy that some people are great at math and some can't add 2 + 2. Could someone please explain the psychological need to see fictionalized accounts of people getting tortured?



Some of us are fascinated by it.
You know how people are fascinated with fluffy bunnies and unicorns and happy fuzzy things?
Some of us are like that with murders and torture and carnage in general.
Ask anyone in the Rigor Mortis group.

I know I am.
I have an Ed Gein waterglobe, for Christ's sake.


I understand that people are fascinated by it. My question is why?



Pardon me if I sound like I have a serial killer alter ego here, but I am completely intrigued by dead bodies and the thousands of different ways to kill people, the ways they can be tortured, and the psychological state of people who do this.
If I could be a criminal psychologist by day and a mortician by night, I'd be very happy.
And tired.


And I'm completely repulsed by the entire concept. Again...nothing personal. My wife is exactly the same way. We acquired an old Cadillac and she wants to sell it and buy a hearse. Hell, her domain is mygothicangel.com. I still love her even though she's creepy! smile
love

courtneyriot

courtneyriot

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUL 10, 2007 07:08 PM

varukasalt said:
I understand that people are fascinated by it. My question is why?



There are plenty of sub-categories in the Horror genre. You can only do so much with zombies and spirits. When a movie is released that puts you in an enviorment that makes you second guess every single person in the world...that is what is truly terrifying. Because the situations in movies like those (Captivity, Saw, Hostel, Texas Chainsaw, etc.) could potentially happen.

If you take (thinking of films released within the last 5 years..) Dawn of the Dead in comparison to Saw or Hostel the fictional elements in Dawn of the Dead make it somewhat stale. Are people going to rise from the dead and swipe off the entire nation? It could happen, but doubtful. The fact that I could be kidnapped at any moment and tortutred for no apparent reason by some twisted person seems like the world we live in. And because of that why shouldn't people watch? There are people out there that commit crimes such as those, why deny people from seeing that.

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

JUL 10, 2007 07:11 PM

This film's detractors are turning out to be its greatest asset, with regard to its marketing.

I wouldn't even have given this film a second thought if everyone weren't so up in arms about it.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 10, 2007 07:16 PM

courtneyriot said:

varukasalt said:
I understand that people are fascinated by it. My question is why?



There are plenty of sub-categories in the Horror genre. You can only do so much with zombies and spirits. When a movie is released that puts you in an enviorment that makes you second guess every single person in the world...that is what is truly terrifying. Because the situations in movies like those (Captivity, Saw, Hostel, Texas Chainsaw, etc.) could potentially happen.

If you take (thinking of films released within the last 5 years..) Dawn of the Dead in comparison to Saw or Hostel the fictional elements in Dawn of the Dead make it somewhat stale. Are people going to rise from the dead and swipe off the entire nation? It could happen, but doubtful. The fact that I could be kidnapped at any moment and tortutred for no apparent reason by some twisted person seems like the world we live in. And because of that why shouldn't people watch? There are people out there that commit crimes such as those, why deny people from seeing that.



I'm not trying to deny anyone watching anything they want. I'm not trying to put down, categorize or in any way belittle people, I'm just trying to understand. No one has given me a reason WHY they like this type of thing. I like chocolate because it tastes good. I like women because I'm a hetero male who's wired that way. I like motorcycles because I enjoy the rush of acceleration. Why do people like to watch other people suffer? I just don't understand.
Where's Zarth when I need him?

deusxmachina

deusxmachina

Honolulu, HI
May 2003

JUL 10, 2007 07:24 PM

courtneyriot said:

varukasalt said:
I understand that people are fascinated by it. My question is why?



There are plenty of sub-categories in the Horror genre. You can only do so much with zombies and spirits. When a movie is released that puts you in an enviorment that makes you second guess every single person in the world...that is what is truly terrifying. Because the situations in movies like those (Captivity, Saw, Hostel, Texas Chainsaw, etc.) could potentially happen.

If you take (thinking of films released within the last 5 years..) Dawn of the Dead in comparison to Saw or Hostel the fictional elements in Dawn of the Dead make it somewhat stale. Are people going to rise from the dead and swipe off the entire nation? It could happen, but doubtful. The fact that I could be kidnapped at any moment and tortutred for no apparent reason by some twisted person seems like the world we live in. And because of that why shouldn't people watch? There are people out there that commit crimes such as those, why deny people from seeing that.



Watching these movies for the thrill factor of "it could happen to me" is fine. But you know there is a handful of people that are watching them for all of the wrong reasons, and that's why people refuse to support movies like this.

courtneyriot

courtneyriot

STAFF

Los Angeles, CA

JUL 10, 2007 07:26 PM

I thought I just answered you though?

I'll say it from my personal point of view so you completely understand.

The fictional aspect in these movies is lost. It makes you question the world and people around you. To have yourself lost in an enviorment for 2 hours full of events and situations that could actually happen to you is the most entertaining part of these films. It's not about getting great joy in seeing someone tortured, it's the fact that someone made a film that is so completely twisted and fucked up that you KNOW there has to be someone out there like that. If anything it's a small inside to how a person like that thinks and works...if anything is that a bit educational?

I like these films because they scare the shit out of me. When I go to see a horror movie, I don't want to see some dude dressed up in a wolf costume. I want to see some really fucked up stuff that actually (or potentially) goes on in this world.

edited to say, what ever happened to entertainment? why get so up tight? it's a movie.

Varuka_Salt

Varuka_Salt

I'm lost
October 2006

JUL 10, 2007 07:34 PM

courtneyriot said:
I thought I just answered you though?

I'll say it from my personal point of view so you completely understand.

The fictional aspect in these movies is lost. It makes you question the world and people around you. To have yourself lost in an enviorment for 2 hours full of events and situations that could actually happen to you is the most entertaining part of these films. It's not about getting great joy in seeing someone tortured, it's the fact that someone made a film that is so completely twisted and fucked up that you KNOW there has to be someone out there like that. If anything it's a small inside to how a person like that thinks and works...if anything is that a bit educational?

I like these films because they scare the shit out of me. When I go to see a horror movie, I don't want to see some dude dressed up in a wolf costume. I want to see some really fucked up stuff that actually (or potentially) goes on in this world.

edited to say, what ever happened to entertainment? why get so up tight? it's a movie.



Ok, I guess it all boils down to the fact that you like to have the crap scared out of you and I don't. Fair enough. I don't really feel the need to be scared. I my work I could end up dead any day. I'm not getting shot at or anything, I do construction and I use all kinds of sharp spiny things and such, and I have been pretty seriously injured on the job, so I'm pretty aware of my own mortality. I'm not that uptight, I'm just continually curious, especially about things I can't seem to figure out on my own.

deusxmachina

deusxmachina

Honolulu, HI
May 2003

JUL 10, 2007 07:35 PM

MrStitches

MrStitches

Brooklyn, NY
November 2003

JUL 10, 2007 07:45 PM

If there is one thing the world needs, it is a repeat of the last thread about this movie.

DeadBilly

DeadBilly

Burnt Cabins, PA
February 2004

JUL 10, 2007 07:53 PM

SuicidePuppies said:
This film's detractors are turning out to be its greatest asset, with regard to its marketing.

I wouldn't even have given this film a second thought if everyone weren't so up in arms about it.



Same here. Simple human nature, really. Somebody tells you something is bad, dark and evil, and naturally you want to see it MORE. I've read a lot of books (and watched a lot of films) because of this phenomenon.

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