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Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 03, 2007 02:21 PM



This Independence Day holiday, I invite the gentle reader to ponder the following point: We, as Americans, need to cut loose more, God dammit. So today and tomorrow, get out, have a few beers. Scratch that. Have more than a few. Have several. Mix in some Gin and Tonics or Jack and Cokes or something.

Get so drunk that you do something incredibly stupid. Something that you would never, ever do were it not for your extreme inebriation. Something like sloppily confessing your everlasting love to your co-worker or donating money to the Republican Party. It doesn't matter what you do, just do something and do it while totally fucked-up. Please. Just do it for our country. The red, white and the blue, if you will.

Why? Because for the love of God, this study depressed the hell out of me.

Nearly one in three Americans abuse or become dependent on alcohol over the course of their lives, and most never seek treatment, according to a study published on Monday.

It found that 17.8 percent said they had abused alcohol at some point over the course of their lives and another 12.5 percent said they were dependent on it at some point, for a total of 30.3 percent.


Let me repeat: thirty percent of people have abused alcohol at some point in their lives. Thirty percent. This is unacceptable.

That number needs to be way, way higher. This study is basically telling me that only one in three of you have any idea how to have a good time. How many really, really awesome parties have you been to that didnÂ’t have someone abusing alcohol? IÂ’ll tell you how many youÂ’ve been to: None. Because they donÂ’t fucking exist. Alcohol is that awesome. It's an indisputable, scientific fact.

Even more depressing is how loosely the study defined “abuse” and “dependence”.

The researchers used the definition of alcohol abuse or dependence found in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition.
It includes having or more of the following for a year:
-- Role Impairment (e.g. failed work or home obligations)
-- Hazardous use (e.g. driving while intoxicated)
-- Legal problems related to alcohol use
-- Social or interpersonal problems due to alcohol
Alcohol dependence is defined as having three or more of the following for a year:
-- Tolerance (increased drinking to achieve same effect)
-- Alcohol withdrawal signs or symptoms
-- Drinking more than intended
-- Unsuccessful attempts to cut down on use
-- Excessive time lost related to alcohol (hangovers, etc)
-- Impaired social or work activities due to alcohol
-- Use despite physical or psychological consequences


Social and interpersonal problems are “abuse”? Maintaining a healthy tolerance is “dependence”? The mind boggles! That means only one in three of you have ever had to sheepishly explain something hilariously awesome you did while blasted the night before. That means only one in three of you are able to hold your liquor through an entire night of delicious, delicious sauce. Disappointed!

Basically, this study tells me one thing loud and clear: two-thirds of Americans are no fun to party with whatsoever. I suppose I could have guessed that, but seeing it in print leaves me deeply saddened and disturbed.

What the fuck is wrong with the rest of you? LetÂ’s turn these numbers upside down, people. Starting today. Think of it as celebrating your independence from total lamehood. How else are those of us who are carrying your weight (and more, in some cases) going to deal with you smug teetotaling assholes otherwise? It's imperative that we work on this. Now.

Fuck it. Subrosa needs a drink.

Kiki

Kiki

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 03, 2007 11:06 PM

hahaha

son_of_desidia

son_of_desidia

Reunion
August 2002

JUL 03, 2007 11:10 PM

This is what I'm trying to say. But no one wants to go out with me. Guess I have to be my own party, even though that basically makes having a camera pointless and defeats the purpose of blackouts.

wtf

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUL 03, 2007 11:20 PM

ravensfeather

ravensfeather

Radford, VA
February 2003

JUL 03, 2007 11:24 PM

im drinking now, yay puke haha

Heraclitus

Heraclitus

Denver, CO
December 2006

JUL 03, 2007 11:36 PM

Damn. It's a good thing I had four beers before reading the signs of alcohol dependence or that might really depress me.

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

JUL 03, 2007 11:41 PM

Drinking? Yes, good plan.

GiddyIguana

GiddyIguana

Spartanburg, SC
February 2004

JUL 03, 2007 11:54 PM

Hey now, I've been to some kick-ass parties that weren't entirely alcohol-fueled...

....of course, most of them involved the use of other (usually illicit) mind-altering substances. wink

poolboy6

poolboy6

Stroudsburg, PA
April 2006

JUL 04, 2007 12:09 AM

goddamnmiddleeasternnoalcoholhavingshootingatmecantfindwhiskeyfuckingblowmeup

I don't miss booze or anything.

PatrickY

PatrickY

Vancouver, WA
December 2003

JUL 04, 2007 12:23 AM

Any party I can remember couldn't have been a good party. So here's to all those black, gaping holes in my memory. Undoubtedly, they were the stuff of legend.

Interesting scientific fact: It's been proven that the hours between 8:30pm Friday, and 2pm Sunday do not exist. We just skip right past those hours. And all the empty bottles all around after the skip are just some sort of probability wave collapse thing. Also the nausea.

RudieCantFail

RudieCantFail

Baton Rouge, LA
January 2006

JUL 04, 2007 12:32 AM

PatrickY said:
Interesting scientific fact: It's been proven that the hours between 8:30pm Friday, and 2pm Sunday do not exist. We just skip right past those hours. And all the empty bottles all around after the skip are just some sort of probability wave collapse thing. Also the nausea.



malkav11

malkav11

Saint Paul, MN
July 2003

JUL 04, 2007 12:33 AM

While I'll admit some of the parties I've been to now that my friends are past the magical age of "maturity" have contained some of said friends imbibing quite a bit of alcohol, I can't say as it actually made any difference to the tone or enjoyment of the party. Nobody got hammered enough that they were behaving really at all differently. Which is just as well 'cause I don't think I'd have enjoyed the party nearly as much if they had been stupid drunk.

Starla

Starla

SUICIDEGIRL

California, USA

JUL 04, 2007 12:44 AM

malkav11 said:
While I'll admit some of the parties I've been to now that my friends are past the magical age of "maturity" have contained some of said friends imbibing quite a bit of alcohol, I can't say as it actually made any difference to the tone or enjoyment of the party. Nobody got hammered enough that they were behaving really at all differently. Which is just as well 'cause I don't think I'd have enjoyed the party nearly as much if they had been stupid drunk.



somebody take this guy to a booze-fuelled rager - STAT!



I wonder what the stats are like in Canada confused I'd like to think we're doing a whole lot better than you guys tongue

TAFKASP

TAFKASP

Oakland, CA
June 2003

JUL 04, 2007 12:47 AM

ckdexterhaven

ckdexterhaven

USA
December 2005

JUL 04, 2007 01:00 AM


Is it even possible to sit through all of that without busting up laughing? biggrin

scylis

scylis

USA
November 2004

JUL 04, 2007 01:28 AM

last night i partied like it was 1699. had a tricorn and everything. though i can't yet bemoan about the rum being gone, i still woke up naked.

tomorrow night i plan to party like it's pre-1901. i'd like to give a big shout-out to T.A. Breaux in advance.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 04, 2007 01:58 AM



Goddammit. It is so nice to be reminded how fucking unbelieveably awesome that song is.

Subrosa

Subrosa

San Francisco, CA
July 2004

JUL 04, 2007 02:00 AM

Starla said:

malkav11 said:
While I'll admit some of the parties I've been to now that my friends are past the magical age of "maturity" have contained some of said friends imbibing quite a bit of alcohol, I can't say as it actually made any difference to the tone or enjoyment of the party. Nobody got hammered enough that they were behaving really at all differently. Which is just as well 'cause I don't think I'd have enjoyed the party nearly as much if they had been stupid drunk.



somebody take this guy to a booze-fuelled rager - STAT!



I wonder what the stats are like in Canada confused I'd like to think we're doing a whole lot better than you guys tongue


And THIS, my fellow Americans, is why we need to fight this great Red Menace of temperance. Because if we don't drink our livers raisin dry, Canadia wins.

Before you know it we'll be drinking Molson instead of Sierra Nevada. The horror!

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

JUL 04, 2007 02:04 AM

Subrosa said:

Starla said:

malkav11 said:
While I'll admit some of the parties I've been to now that my friends are past the magical age of "maturity" have contained some of said friends imbibing quite a bit of alcohol, I can't say as it actually made any difference to the tone or enjoyment of the party. Nobody got hammered enough that they were behaving really at all differently. Which is just as well 'cause I don't think I'd have enjoyed the party nearly as much if they had been stupid drunk.



somebody take this guy to a booze-fuelled rager - STAT!



I wonder what the stats are like in Canada confused I'd like to think we're doing a whole lot better than you guys tongue


And THIS, my fellow Americans, is why we need to fight this great Red Menace of temperance. Because if we don't drink our livers raisin dry, Canadia wins.

Before you know it we'll be drinking Molson instead of Sierra Nevada. The horror!



I'm sorry, North America, but our institutionalized alchoholism has you beat.

ahcoldpizza

ahcoldpizza

Mexico
June 2007

JUL 04, 2007 02:36 AM

and this is why i love this site!

because i expected some whiny ass loser to have made the comment by now along the lines of "don't joke! alcohol abuse isn't funny! i've had someone pass away from it before!! WTF?! WAH!!!?"

And I was pleasantly very very pleasantly disappointed.

Nixie

Nixie

United Kingdom
March 2006

JUL 04, 2007 02:41 AM

_Elichrusos said:

Subrosa said:

Starla said:

malkav11 said:
While I'll admit some of the parties I've been to now that my friends are past the magical age of "maturity" have contained some of said friends imbibing quite a bit of alcohol, I can't say as it actually made any difference to the tone or enjoyment of the party. Nobody got hammered enough that they were behaving really at all differently. Which is just as well 'cause I don't think I'd have enjoyed the party nearly as much if they had been stupid drunk.



somebody take this guy to a booze-fuelled rager - STAT!



I wonder what the stats are like in Canada confused I'd like to think we're doing a whole lot better than you guys tongue


And THIS, my fellow Americans, is why we need to fight this great Red Menace of temperance. Because if we don't drink our livers raisin dry, Canadia wins.

Before you know it we'll be drinking Molson instead of Sierra Nevada. The horror!



I'm sorry, North America, but our institutionalized alchoholism has you beat.



well i'm british, and nobody gets fucking rat arsed like the brits. we're the world leaders when it comes to binge drinking culture.

RULE BRITANNIA!!!

tterB

tterB

Burnaby, BC
May 2007

JUL 04, 2007 02:53 AM

I dunno, us Canadians kind of have it as a running cutlural theme that beer and hockey are our favourite past times (Oh and sex; who could forget that).

That being said, this thread made me happy to be one of the abusers; On Monday I arrived home from a 3 night marathon up on the sunshine coast at a buddy's cabin. We got pretty fucking smashed all 3 nights running, not to mention stoned out of existence.

I'm pretty sure I was so high on the third night that I slid into a parallel dimension for several hours (well, depending on however accurately you can really measure dimensional travel).

The pictures of our crew hung over on the ferry ride home are priceless biggrin

_Elichrusos

_Elichrusos

Australia
November 2004

JUL 04, 2007 02:53 AM

Nixie said:

_Elichrusos said:

Subrosa said:

Starla said:

malkav11 said:
While I'll admit some of the parties I've been to now that my friends are past the magical age of "maturity" have contained some of said friends imbibing quite a bit of alcohol, I can't say as it actually made any difference to the tone or enjoyment of the party. Nobody got hammered enough that they were behaving really at all differently. Which is just as well 'cause I don't think I'd have enjoyed the party nearly as much if they had been stupid drunk.



somebody take this guy to a booze-fuelled rager - STAT!



I wonder what the stats are like in Canada confused I'd like to think we're doing a whole lot better than you guys tongue


And THIS, my fellow Americans, is why we need to fight this great Red Menace of temperance. Because if we don't drink our livers raisin dry, Canadia wins.

Before you know it we'll be drinking Molson instead of Sierra Nevada. The horror!



I'm sorry, North America, but our institutionalized alchoholism has you beat.



well i'm british, and nobody gets fucking rat arsed like the brits. we're the world leaders when it comes to binge drinking culture.

RULE BRITANNIA!!!



Hey Pommie! We should start an international binge drinking league.

Nixie

Nixie

United Kingdom
March 2006

JUL 04, 2007 03:11 AM

tterB said:
I dunno, us Canadians kind of have it as a running cutlural theme that beer and hockey are our favourite past times (Oh and sex; who could forget that).

[...]


_Elichrusos said:
Hey Pommie! We should start an international binge drinking league.



haha. but you're all newbies to binge drinking.

Tony Blair wants to stem the tide of beer, sick and blood and take us back to a golden age of civility and good-manners. But history contradicts him. The first law to control English binge-drinking was passed in 616 AD ... the English have been violent, binge-drinking hooligans for more than a thousand years.



opening except from C4's Seven Sins of England

makes me proud biggrin

StarBelliedBoy

StarBelliedBoy

Philadelphia, PA
December 2003

JUL 04, 2007 04:13 AM

I drank a large bottle of wine about 12 hours ago. It was pretty awesome, but I'm pretty sure I was an embarrassing and annoying drunk. Oh well.

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